Returning healer

So I used to heal all the time in this game before taking a break; generally speaking I didn't have any issues with groups however I just had quite possibly the worst tank I've ever had the "privilege" to heal.

Long story short; Haukke Manor, I'm on my SCH and the tank is GLD with no shield. We have two DPS with no AoE at this level but tank proceeds to pull everything up to the locked door and not use any mit. We die. Trying again tank pulls slightly less but still not using mit, DEMANDS that I cleanse poison off the mushrooms that constantly apply it and tells me to stop spamming shield. I say "stop pulling so much when we don't have aoe" he tells me that he does and that I should do damage. He also proceeded to spam "door" multiple times expecting one of us to open the door so he could pull even more. We kill the first boss and I apologize to the others and leave. Silver lining he had tank stance, but he wasn't synced.

So I'm expected to not spam heal a tank who refuses to mit and pulls multiple groups of mobs when our party has no aoe, whilst cleansing non stop poisons and also doing damage? What the hell has happened during my break? Did I just get unlucky or is there some new tank meta?

Don't worry they'll dumb down tanking and healing even more to ensure this never happens again.

But it will in a different, even stupider form anyway.

You got a weird case.
I mainly heal (SGE) but also tank and DPS, casually mind you, but I've taken several characters to End-of-Content as SGE-WAR-DNC.

In your situation I would just silently ignore a tank that was trying to tell me how to heal, and do the best I know how to prevent a wipe, even if it means letting the tank die. I've done low level dungeons in Duty Finder after having lost a tank, so even a poor tank can usually be worked around.

Worst case, though: I was in Aurum Vale, got a totally incompetent (or totally trolling) tank who ran around kiting Coincounter and eating all the morbal fruit, so after one of the DPS quit, I quit too. That's one situation the quit option is made for.

But usually, the tank is good enough, and sometimes they are spectacular (except when they're me :))

I think unfortunately you've just come across someone who has no idea how to play the class - I mean, not even equipping a shield as a Gladiator? You do come across some of them - I've had a couple before like that, you just gotta accept the loss and move on.

Take a deep breath and move on. You had a rare experience of tank who does not know how to play his class and acts like he does.

Thanks for the responses. I do realize I could have just stayed silent and carried on and usually I would do just that, but I've never been told how to do my job before so brazenly and by someone who doesn't even seem to know what they themselves are doing. I feel bad for leaving it up to another healer to finish that run but at that point I felt like I was healing in WoW or something and just had to leave. Just going to chalk it up to an isolated and rare incident and carry on as normal; though it was very shocking it being my first experience after coming back to the game and in leveling roulette of all things?

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Originally Posted by Tamuril88

I feel bad for leaving it up to another healer to finish that run ...

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Don't feel bad, it wasn't your fault.
And always remember: it's a game, not a job, and it's supposed to be fun for you.

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Originally Posted by Casti_EL

I think unfortunately you've just come across someone who has no idea how to play the class - I mean, not even equipping a shield as a Gladiator? You do come across some of them - I've had a couple before like that, you just gotta accept the loss and move on.

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I think this is the case too.

You can try to convince them to improve on their end but there's only so much you can do, especially with that sort of attitude. Either vote dismiss them or leave yourself. It's just not worthy of the headache.

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Originally Posted by Tamuril88

Thanks for the responses. I do realize I could have just stayed silent and carried on and usually I would do just that, but I've never been told how to do my job before so brazenly and by someone who doesn't even seem to know what they themselves are doing. I feel bad for leaving it up to another healer to finish that run but at that point I felt like I was healing in WoW or something and just had to leave. Just going to chalk it up to an isolated and rare incident and carry on as normal; though it was very shocking it being my first experience after coming back to the game and in leveling roulette of all things?

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If I am playing healer and the tank is stubborn, I will either do 2 things:

1. Abandon. I have the privilege of instant queues. I will grab it. The stress fighting with a toxic player is just not worth it. Though I will apologize with the DPS players before leaving.
2. Vote kick the toxic player, if I am the party leader, especially on your situation. DPS queues are already punishment enough. There are plenty more tanks out there who will do better.

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Originally Posted by Casti_EL

I think unfortunately you've just come across someone who has no idea how to play the class - I mean, not even equipping a shield as a Gladiator? You do come across some of them - I've had a couple before like that, you just gotta accept the loss and move on.

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It's the even worse variant, someone who has no idea how to play but convinced themselves that they are an expert.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

It's the even worse variant, someone who has no idea how to play but convinced themselves that they are an expert.

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Delusions of expertise is a modern plague, and unfortunately not just in games.

The Dunning-Kruger effect occurs when a person's lack of knowledge and skill in a certain area causes them to overestimate their own competence. By contrast, this effect also drives those who excel in a given area to think the task is simple for everyone, leading them to underestimate their abilities.

This reminds me of way back when Shadowbringers was just a few months in. Was running Dohn Mehg on random and got a group that apparently queued together. The tank blatantly refused to turn on tank stance, and both him and his buddies got mad when I refused to move any further until he did. They demanded I leave the dungeon since it was still within time that they couldn't kick, and I refused that as well. I did warn them that I was screenshoting everything they said and was reporting it if they didn't clean up their act. They finally got the kick vote available and kicked me. Needless to say, I reported.

Got to love groups out there trying to turn their healer into the tank.

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Originally Posted by RealHounder1971

This reminds me of way back when Shadowbringers was just a few months in. Was running Dohn Mehg on random and got a group that apparently queued together. The tank blatantly refused to turn on tank stance, and both him and his buddies got mad when I refused to move any further until he did. They demanded I leave the dungeon since it was still within time that they couldn't kick, and I refused that as well. I did warn them that I was screenshoting everything they said and was reporting it if they didn't clean up their act. They finally got the kick vote available and kicked me. Needless to say, I reported.

Got to love groups out there trying to turn their healer into the tank.

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Wow thats pretty moronic of them. I mean all the tank had to do was press one button and problem solved, the lengths people go to be complicated astounds me sometimes.