Confused about the Xbox "ffxiv coins"

So I just read the new lodestone post and saw they are introducing a premium currency on Xbox and all the Xbox service fees and optional items are managed with said coins.

It mentions players who play on multiple platforms can skip this and pay a standard sub fee like always on the mog station but where I have a question is in a situation where say, I have arr-ew licenses on PlayStation, and arr- dawntrail on xbox, so I still get to use the mog station as I always have? Or since dawntrail is only linked on Xbox do I have to use coins? I really wish they could've made this a little more clear.

There's also no details for folks who only play the
Xbox version and do need to buy the coins to play. Okay, so how many coins does it cost for a months subscription, or for an extra retainer etc. You have to buy the coins FIRST before you log in and manage your account. This whole headache just keeps getting worse somehow.

if its their usual thing, you will not have an account that will use playstation and xbox, your account will be one or the other. so if you have arr-ew on playstation, playing dawntrail on xbox would be an entirely different account. so beware of that. (for instance.. steam and pc are two.. different accounts.. go figure) from a read it looks like xbox may be the same, and xbox users will have a 'coins only' options, likely a microsoft thing.

for me, since it does say you can "link accounts" I would let other people experiment with that first, since you cannot unlink them

It's always been straight forward before between console and PC cause regardless it's the same mog station account but there was no weird exclusive way you had to pay a sub between PlayStation and PC. You have always been able to link PlayStation and PC accounts so long as you own licenses for both. So linking your existing account should work the same as it always has so long as you own the Xbox license. I guess I just don't know what happens when you are missing the latest expansion on other platforms now that they've introduced this convoluted new way to manage your subscription on Xbox.

The wording is a little funky but if you're playing the game via Xbox Series X|S, regardless of having other versions on your account, you'll need to use FFXIV Coins to pay for any services and cash store items when paying for them on an Xbox console itself.

This wording strongly implies that some kind of integration between the game client and Mogstation/cash store will be implemented into that version of the game. However, if you have any other platforms on your Square Enix account then you can bypass this function entirely and pay using an alternative payment method on the Mogstation/cash store website.

We've only got a few days to wait in order to see what this actually looks like in-game so I'll be waiting on that.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

for instance.. steam and pc are two.. different accounts.. go figure

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It's not that they're two different accounts, it's that they only expect you to use one or the other, presumably because they are both ultimately PC licences. There is no such issue between PC-or-Steam and PlayStation accounts.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It's not that they're two different accounts, it's that they only expect you to use one or the other, presumably because they are both ultimately PC licences. There is no such issue between PC-or-Steam and PlayStation accounts.

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were that the case, then I should be able to transfer my steam character to a strictly SE account so I do not have to use steam... yet one cannot. If that were even remotely possible, I know I, and others, would have done so a while ago.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

were that the case, then I should be able to transfer my steam character to a strictly SE account so I do not have to use steam... yet one cannot. If that were even remotely possible, I know I, and others, would have done so a while ago.

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I think it's a unique situation between steam and PC because like someone else mentioned, I don't think they expect folks to want both a steam license and a PC license since both versions are played on a PC. Regardless, PlayStation and steam, or PlayStation and PC have never had any problems being linked onto one account. That is primarily what this thread is about. The wording in the lodestone post says previously used accounts can be linked. That is not the confusing part. The confusing part is how the Xbox currency ties into a linked account. Specifically a situation where some expansions are registered on one platform and not the other.

When using the Xbox interface to access your account, you will use FFXIV coins.

When using other methods, such as a web browser on your PC, other payment methods will be available.

It's that simple!

It does seem to suggest that if you don't have other platforms attached on the account, then it might still want you to use the Xbox + FFXIV coins for payment, but since you said you have other platforms, you should be able to handle it all via the website.

You should be able to pay the subscription fee without these coins at least. Since buying expansions is platform-specific, you may end up buying the Xbox ones via the Xbox interface, which would still require FFXIV coins, but you could also try buying it from a retailer such as Amazon or the Xbox website for a normal currency.

I have no idea why they decided to do the FFXIV Coins thing, as far as I can tell it's just an extra step for payment in the Xbox version... It's essentially the Xbox specific version of Crysta.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Since buying expansions is platform-specific, you may end up buying the Xbox ones via the Xbox interface, which would still require FFXIV coins, but you could also try buying it from a retailer such as Amazon or the Xbox website for a normal currency.

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Yeah I guess that's the part that I. Worried about, I guess we will just have to wait and see.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

I have no idea why they decided to do the FFXIV Coins thing, as far as I can tell it's just an extra step for payment in the Xbox version... It's essentially the Xbox specific version of Crysta.

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Well just like there is a Steam wallet too.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

I have no idea why they decided to do the FFXIV Coins thing, as far as I can tell it's just an extra step for payment in the Xbox version... It's essentially the Xbox specific version of Crysta.

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This is true yeah, I guess I just would like to avoid using the coins if possible. I have a feeling you will only be able to buy them in certain increments which leads to having to buy more than you need each month when you could just pay the flat sub fee on any other platform.

So in other words.
Is it basically a Xbox version of "Crysta"

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Well just like there is a Steam wallet too.

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Steam wallet isn't any different compared to the Windows version sub on auto renewal. It even ignores how much you have in your wallet and automatically pays more based on the method you selected on steam the first time.

They really went out of their way to make the Xbox version have as much red tape as possible.

Since it looks like these coins are only purchasable on the xbox store, and those with ONLY an xbox account linked HAVE to make all purchases with these coins. It seems most likely it's just Microsofts way of making sure they get their cut of every FFXIV transaction made by xbox players.

Microsoft really wants a piece of the pie.

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Originally Posted by Erin1491

I think it's a unique situation between steam and PC because like someone else mentioned, I don't think they expect folks to want both a steam license and a PC license since both versions are played on a PC. Regardless, PlayStation and steam, or PlayStation and PC have never had any problems being linked onto one account. That is primarily what this thread is about. The wording in the lodestone post says previously used accounts can be linked. That is not the confusing part. The confusing part is how the Xbox currency ties into a linked account. Specifically a situation where some expansions are registered on one platform and not the other.

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Nope, this is a contractual thing between Valve and the game vendor. Valve forbids transfer of MMORPG accounts off Steam. This affects other MMORPGs on steam as well (i.e. GW2 or ESO). This is why you should never, ever buy a MMORPG on Steam.

*buys all her mmorpgs on Steam*

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I'm chalking it up to Microsoft shenanigans, but it's hard to know how all this will actually play out until Xbox has a live ecosystem up and running with players to experience it first-hand.

But as a passive observer i cannot help but feel like i'm watching a bunch of new FFXIV players get on a faulty plane without concern for its passengers, and all i want to do is tell them all to perhaps use another plane company.

(sorry for the vague 'boeing plane' references)

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

So in other words.
Is it basically a Xbox version of "Crysta"

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yea. though I think MS/xbox gets to take small percentage from the sale ffxiv coins.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

yea. though I think MS/xbox gets to take small percentage from the sale ffxiv coins.

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They absolutely do and that's why this coin system was implemented. There's probably a rule somewhere that you can't offer microtransactions on an Xbox game outside of the Xbox store, and that coin system is the compromise they found.