Wouldn't be better to add mixed races from current existing ones than make new ones?

I know, i'm a bit late to the party, but, again, Mr. Yoshida (or whoever) says, finally, fem beast cat are released, it's the last one folks... but if you guys want/demand more, there will be more.

Or something on the likes of that he said.

So, like in the title. Wouldn't be better (if they add anything), to start adding mixed races from current existing ones? I mean, it would still be a huge painful amount of work, but atleast you don't have to create complete new assets from the start.

In my case I wouldn't mind having an Au'Ra/Elezen with elf ears and scales for example.

The reason they don't want to add more is that if they have to design a new skeleton it means adjusting the gear for it as well. If they make heads with different kinds of features such as ears or horns, it means adjusting all the hats for it. That means every time they add a new race, making new gear becomes a bigger burden, causing them to want to make less gear overall which, according to some people, has been the case.

I did learn from watching a developer panel that they have mostly automated this process now. They can get one of their tools to convert the gear to fit other races. Sometimes they will still have to make adjustments, but it does most or all of the work. Apparently WoW recently solved this issue as well, using AI.

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Humongous NO. Give us Ivalice moogles next; we need it, you need it.

Mao passes. Mao nots breed with food.

No, though I do wish we had more clans to choose from :3

There is one mixed race that would be awesome.

Half Elezen. Half Elves are a trope in fantasy games, and this one would definitely be popular to fill in that archetype. It technically already has a basis in the game, we just have only seen one.

Depending how they implement the half races, it could be a lot easier than just adding a whole new race. If you selected Half Elezen, it would likely just use Hildas existing model style, which is essentially just a hyur with pointy ears, and a few extra elezen features tacked on. It's not a lot of effort, but looks cool, and wouldn't be a bad thing to add to the game, nor would it take a lot of resources. The clothing could almost entirely be copied and pasted over from hyur.

Perhaps unique voices, and animations could be added to flesh them out, but the base would be mostly what we already have to begin with. Just with an added male version that takes from male midlander. If anything this isn't really a "new race" but more of an improvement to customization.

Another way to resolve this would be to add half elf ears as an option in the character customization for hyur.

As many catgirls that are in existence..

You'd think there'd be more Miqo'te hybrids

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Originally Posted by EZGIL

As many catgirls that are in existence..

You'd think there'd be more Miqo'te hybrids

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It goes by pokemon logic. Offspring match the species of the mother.

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Originally Posted by Rhael

It goes by pokemon logic. Offspring match the species of the mother.

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Except for us moon kitties.. the reason we have fangs is because we just bite ppl and they turn into another moon kitty... >.>

Well, we do canonically have a Half-ElfElezen in Hilda...

But aside from her, I don't think there's any instances of different races being shown to be able to mix.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Well, we do canonically have a Half-ElfElezen in Hilda...

But aside from her, I don't think there's any instances of different races being shown to be able to mix.

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We have two half-Garleans (Arenvald and Severa) that we know of.

How would you possibly make them visually distinctive? A half-elezen would just look like a regular elezen at minimum height and ear size. What's the point?

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Originally Posted by Rhael

It goes by pokemon logic. Offspring match the species of the mother.

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That’s made up fanon and Severa having a third-eye fully disproves that anyway since she can completely pass as the race of her father. Otherwise Hilda would just be a Hyur instead of being max-height Hyur with elf ears which is exactly what you’d expect from someone who is half-Elezen.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

We have two half-Garleans (Arenvald and Severa) that we know of.

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Alma and Ramza are also half-Garlean.

I wouldn't be opposed. To be honest, it'd make the world more immersive and make sense. I mean, for example: The proximity elezen and hyur have together in a place like Gridania would have some hyurlezen, but we don't see any.

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Originally Posted by LioJen

How would you possibly make them visually distinctive? A half-elezen would just look like a regular elezen at minimum height and ear size. What's the point?

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Just using Hilda as an example, her ear shape is unique and not able to be done with a regular Elezen. In that case, really all they’d have to do is add her ears to the Hyur character creators! lol

I would guess a similar thing could be done with other races with distinctive features… like separating out the Au Ra horns and scales, Miquote ears and tails… but the other mixes could be challenging though… which is why I don’t see it happening unfortunately. :( I would love to play a half-Elezen!

It makes sense that they specifically made Hilda half-elezen. In history, Ishgard is mainly Elezen with migrating Hyurs. Most nobility are Elezen. Hilda being not just half-Hyur but also the child of a Hyur maid and a noble Elezen was a way to highlight this conflict and further support the plotline of class conflict in Ishgard society.

Outside of the sphere of racial abilities/stats, which mean nothing in this game, I don't care for half or mixed races. Our choice in terms of race already means so little (no one reacts to seeing a viera). I wouldn't be against a half-hyur/half-elezen subrace, but it is a tired trope and means little outside aesthetics/RP. This point after Tolkien, it's just extremely overused. I'd personally want a new, unique race.

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Originally Posted by VirusOnline

Outside of the sphere of racial abilities/stats, which mean nothing in this game, I don't care for half or mixed races. Our choice in terms of race already means so little (no one reacts to seeing a viera). I wouldn't be against a half-hyur/half-elezen subrace, but it is a tired trope and means little outside aesthetics/RP. This point after Tolkien, it's just extremely overused. I'd personally want a new, unique race.

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Aesthetic is probably the number one reason for it… I love the look and I’d like to be able to use it for my character, especially since it’s something that already exists in-game. :) People just want to look how they want to look.

Personally though, I’d rather they add more variety to the existing races by adding new “clans” to them before making something completely different… the character options we have now could use a lot more variety added to them!

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Alma and Ramza are also half-Garlean.

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They have non-Garlean ancestors, but they're never treated as anything but Garlean. Presumably, it's far enough back in the family tree that nobody really bothers to acknowledge it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

They have non-Garlean ancestors, but they're never treated as anything but Garlean. Presumably, it's far enough back in the family tree that nobody really bothers to acknowledge it.

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EE2 outright states Ramza's mom is Hyur:

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the proud Garlean of mixed blood - his mother was Hyuran

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Jenomis also has a third-eye but neither of his kids do.


Back on topic, while the lore seems to be softening on unions between the different races and you see more couples together in holiday events and in the background, there's not really much of a point to implement that from a gameplay perspective and the characters who are half-one thing and half-another are treated as being particularly unique and special and that is a part of their core identity.

That said, I'm surprised that the devs didn't give us a fake Garlean third eye head equipment piece or glamour item. I wouldn't use it but I'm sure a lot of people would.

Wouldn't opening mixed races up to players inevitably open the can of warms that is anything mixed with Lalafell? People already see and treat them like children characters.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

Wouldn't opening mixed races up to players inevitably open the can of warms that is anything mixed with Lalafell? People already see and treat them like children characters.

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Tell me a Lala/Miqote mix wouldn’t be adorable! lol and Lala/Viera is essentially a Lopporit!

Hello, Kitty.

< Shudders >

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Originally Posted by LioJen

How would you possibly make them visually distinctive? A half-elezen would just look like a regular elezen at minimum height and ear size. What's the point?

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RP and character customization purposes.

I assume that the vast majority of half-breeds outside of Lalafell combinations between our current race selection models could be done with only minor changes to the base models.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Tell me a Lala/Miqote mix wouldn’t be adorable! lol and Lala/Viera is essentially a Lopporit!

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https://i.imgur.com/yzwLKrK.jpg

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Tell me a Lala/Miqote mix wouldn’t be adorable! lol and Lala/Viera is essentially a Lopporit!

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It has a lot more to do with the implications as opposed to the end result.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

Wouldn't opening mixed races up to players inevitably open the can of warms that is anything mixed with Lalafell? People already see and treat them like children characters.

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It's the internet, it's very bold of you to think it wasn't already open.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

It's the internet, it's very bold of you to think it wasn't already open.

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Being opened in memes, fanart, or mods is very different from SE officially doing it. They have somewhat opened it with Hilda, but it would be a much larger step to release a mixed playable race.