Burmecian Race/The Race of Freya

Thread, lets get the Burmecian, the race of freya's species from ff9 into xiv. I had a hard time thinking of what else to really had and so I had to think on other races seen in other ff games and I am now championing the Burmecian.

Rat boys and rat girls lets get it going brothers and sisters the ratpack can not be denied!

We already have a humanoid rat-like race in the game (and they're from another FF game to boot!) - FFXI's qiqirn.

Alas, they're considered beastmen (and some are downright barbaric, who eat hyur), so I doubt very much we'll see anything like that as a playable race in the game.

They could have no hat I fully support the Bumercian race making it in XIV.

They'd look different enough though, I mean cause we got hrothgar and cat people coexisting since the differences are enough (to me anyways some may think they look to samey both being cat people)

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

They could have no hat I fully support the Bumercian race making it in XIV.

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Same, as long as they made the face exactly as they appear I'd understand hats or helms being a thing they wouldn't get tons of support on.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

We already have a humanoid rat-like race in the game (and they're from another FF game to boot!) - FFXI's qiqirn.

Alas, they're considered beastmen (and some are downright barbaric, who eat hyur), so I doubt very much we'll see anything like that as a playable race in the game.

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Hrothgar already kinda push the beastmen argument to the breaking point, though.

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Originally Posted by NealSnow

Thread, lets get the Burmecian, the race of freya's species from ff9 into xiv. I had a hard time thinking of what else to really had and so I had to think on other races seen in other ff games and I am now championing the Burmecian.

Rat boys and rat girls lets get it going brothers and sisters the ratpack can not be denied!

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no thanks.

Do they get to wear ribbons on their tails? This is important.

Too many mammals, I vote Bangaa for the next race.

The one race i would change to from Elezen

I'd be all for them personally.

However I wouldn't want to get my hopes up about seeing them in any truely authentic manner because they are digitigrade which would be a major issue with the foot slot as is.

From memory, WoW got around this by having the ankle/lower shin and foot pieces being distinct, so you still got the ankle cover, just nothing over the hoof for Tauren etc. I'm dead certain FFXIV doesn't have anything like that so Burm's would either have to have regular legs and feet or would need to have some kind of hard coded variant foot item specific to them for legacy gear as well as potentially unique foot items going forward.

To me it feels like a race that needed the support to be there from the get go to really work properly.

*edit* Bangaa have a similar issue although there is historical art of them wearing regular flat boots and shoes at least.

I would love Burmecians if done properly but unfortunately the FFXIV armor system can't handle unusual body types and Burmecians without the rat legs/feet aren't Burmecians at all.


This is a Burmecian:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_bbR4OWYAI0UKr.jpg


This is a Burmecian in FFXIV:

https://img.apmcdn.org/0445bc04c1cfa...t-mask-600.jpg


I would rather not have them at all then have a lame semi-imitation.

I probably wouldn't fantasia to one, but Burmecians are cool so players should be able to play as them. However, I 100% foresee shoes being an issue for them, but if they can make shoes for chocobos work then I'm confident they can make shoes work for Burmecians. If they can solve the shoes problem, then they should go for it!

Yes they are the most underrated races in FF.

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Originally Posted by mallleable

However, I 100% foresee shoes being an issue for them, but if they can make shoes for chocobos work then I'm confident they can make shoes work for Burmecians. If they can solve the shoes problem, then they should go for it!

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The two aren't comparable at all. There are far fewer chocobo bardings than player gear sets and those bardings have been built for chocobos from day one. To accommodate a rat lower half the devs would have to go back and remodel every piece of foot and possibly leg gear in the game from scratch specifically for Burmecians. That is an absolutely gargantuan amount of work, not to mention the additional workload going forward. It also seems incompatible with the gear modeling tools they explained during the technical panel at London Fanfest.

Is it completely impossible by any means known to man? Of course not, but I can't see them ever deeming the juice worth the squeeze on that one. If Burmecians were ever added they would be a Hyur with a rat head which I don't think anyone would be happy with.

Let's be honest, we're due for a canine race.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

The two aren't comparable at all. There are far fewer chocobo bardings than player gear sets and those bardings have been built for chocobos from day one. To accommodate a rat lower half the devs would have to go back and remodel every piece of foot and possibly leg gear in the game from scratch specifically for Burmecians. That is an absolutely gargantuan amount of work, not to mention the additional workload going forward. It also seems incompatible with the gear modeling tools they explained during the technical panel at London Fanfest.

Is it completely impossible by any means known to man? Of course not, but I can't see them ever deeming the juice worth the squeeze on that one. If Burmecians were ever added they would be a Hyur with a rat head which I don't think anyone would be happy with.

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Fair. However, it has occurred to me how they can maybe kinda 'cheat' with their feet: make them like they're wearing stilettos all the time. And then make their hands, and feet slightly bigger -- like within the boundaries of existing armor to make them more paw-like, and maybe see if they can shrink their waist a bit. Adjustments like those could probably get something extremely close.

Mao thinkings Sylvester Stallone mights be right. Rats look tasty.

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Originally Posted by Naple

Let's be honest, we're due for a canine race.

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This x1000000%. I'm really hoping it's possible considering Yoshi-P says he loves wolves.

I’m just gonna say it, we don’t need any more races. Why do we need more?

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Originally Posted by Aiyakiu

This x1000000%. I'm really hoping it's possible considering Yoshi-P says he loves wolves.

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Lalafell sized race based on Foxes for a canine race. Game is oversaturated with big races as it stands currently... >.>

Hrothgar + Roe are tall with males having a hulking amount of mass
Elezen are tall
Miqo, Hyur, and Viera run a medium sized spectrum. Though Viera might be able to breach into the tall range if set to max height.
Au Ra are kind of split. Females being the petite end of medium with Males being tall.
Lalafell are the only playable smol race.

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Originally Posted by mallleable

Fair. However, it has occurred to me how they can maybe kinda 'cheat' with their feet: make them like they're wearing stilettos all the time.

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Do you mean like the Viera racial gear? That would only work for that one set which doesn't really solve the problem.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Lalafell sized race based on Foxes for a canine race. Game is oversaturated with big races as it stands currently... >.>

Hrothgar + Roe are tall with males having a hulking amount of mass
Elezen are tall
Miqo, Hyur, and Viera run a medium sized spectrum. Though Viera might be able to breach into the tall range if set to max height.
Au Ra are kind of split. Females being the petite end of medium with Males being tall.
Lalafell are the only playable smol race.

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ONG I WOULD LOVE A SMOL FOX RACE I LOVE FOXES THIS I NEED THIS SOO BAD

This would certainly be better than yet another race that is just humans with odd/animal traits.

But I'd rather have something like a lizard race. Trying to integrate burmecian into XIV would look underwhelming as they would most definitely not have their original leg shapes.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Lalafell sized race based on Foxes for a canine race. Game is oversaturated with big races as it stands currently... >.>

Hrothgar + Roe are tall with males having a hulking amount of mass
Elezen are tall
Miqo, Hyur, and Viera run a medium sized spectrum. Though Viera might be able to breach into the tall range if set to max height.
Au Ra are kind of split. Females being the petite end of medium with Males being tall.
Lalafell are the only playable smol race.

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AGREED. NO MORE BIG RACES.

If we get a new one, I hope it will be Burmecian.
In my opinion FFXIV needs another small race.

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Originally Posted by RidUmb

If we get a new one, I hope it will be Burmecian.
In my opinion FFXIV needs another small race.

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Where do people keep thinking Burmecians were short? Freya is taller than everyone in the party except Amarant and that's not including her tall helmet.

I think, with Miqos, Viera and Hrothgar FF14 has already enough furry races. :eek:


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Burmecian would be a fun fit on meracydia

The Burmecians feels like the Quirin but taller.

https://i.imgur.com/22KmA5O.png

https://i.imgur.com/GuBOgcy.png

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Where do people keep thinking Burmecians were short? Freya is taller than everyone in the party except Amarant and that's not including her tall helmet.

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They think they're short because they overlook the cartoonish overall art style of FFIX. Freya is actually 6'1" tall making her 1 inch shorter than Steiner. Amarant however could be considered a giant among men standing at 7'4"

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

Burmecian would be a fun fit on meracydia

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I think I'd rather see something draconic given that the populace has been living alongside Tiamat's brood for centuries.

We've already seen a smaller scale example of how quickly they can adapt to better live alongside man with Ehli Tou, so seeing that taken to a logical extreme could be interesting.

They could do a split between Burmecia and Cleyra as subtypes.

The important part is to get Freya's stepdance right.

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Originally Posted by Sequora

I’m just gonna say it, we don’t need any more races. Why do we need more?

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Because most of the current races look like people in cosplay... in some cases, Victoria Secret models in cosplay.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

We already have a humanoid rat-like race in the game (and they're from another FF game to boot!) - FFXI's qiqirn.

Alas, they're considered beastmen (and some are downright barbaric, who eat hyur), so I doubt very much we'll see anything like that as a playable race in the game.

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The same argument could be made about Miqo'te and Hrothgar as two different feline type races.

Personally, I would love to see burmecians as a playable race. I imagine the devs would do some simplifications modeling them; after all, technically, Viera are supposed to be digitigrade, but they still use all the same boot models as everyone else. They wouldn't be short either - Freya was 6'1". That said, if we *ever* get another playable race, I would be surprised if it comes before 9.0.

I think before considering adding more races, they should really expand the character customization of all our current races, as well as sorting out the whole rigmarole with Viera and Hrothgar headwear. I think 9.0 should be the earliest to consider any new races.

That being said, if they were to ever do one more race, I do think Burmecians would add the most from a variety standpoint if we're going solely by FF-inspired races. A more lithe alternative for a beast race, and I'd imagine they'd be somewhere around or under female Au'ra sizewise. The only thing I'd really be iffed about is if they didn't keep the digitigrade feet, but it's also understandable why due to limitations on dev time. Even if they don't end up playable, I'd still love to see them in the game down the line. I think Burmecia would also be a good inspiration for a zone, especially a shard veering towards a water-aspected calamity. And if they wanted to get even more inspired, I think memories would be a good concept to explore for an expansion's theming.

Also if they put Freya's hat in the game I'd be a very happy Dragoon thank you. There are like no Dragoon hats haha.

I feel as though Burmecians have to be added in at some point just due to their status among FF fans, and I earnestly hope that if they do, they're as a playable race. They have such a unique silhouette compared to every other race we have available, with a far more bestial appearance. While the snout of a face and the digitigrade feet could be an issue, I feel confident that they are things that could be solved, and hopefully not in the way of the fake sort of digitigrade the Viera have. If it's a matter of them not getting to wear shoes, so be it! Any sort of further distinction between the races at this point would be great, and, again, Burmecians have just a shape to them that isn't matched by any other player option available.

They would be the only race I'd ever consider changing to.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

They could have no hat I fully support the Bumercian race making it in XIV.

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Though I would enjoy them, the problem would not just be hats. They are so different there would be zero commonality for any piece of gear.