FOMO aside...when are past PvP Series rewards going to be purchasable???

There was a live letter that mentioned previous series rewards would become available later, but so far it looks like none have in over a year since CC was added. I took a break for a while and missed a minion in one season as well as a couple mounts and it is truly bugging the completionist in me. Yoshi SAID go take a break, but then you take a break and stuff is unobtainable... come on man.

...and I mean the CC Series rewards NOT the Feast stuff they've already (frustratingly) said will not come back.

at this rate i assume they will be expansions apart
so when DT pvp series 1 starts we get EW series 1 in CC shop

I think it would be fair that when the 6th series starts, all of series 1, 2 and 3's rewards get added to buy with crystals. Then series 4-6's rewards can be added way in the future when the 9th series starts. That would be a good offset.

Given it hasn't happened yet, safe to say in Dawntrail unless they drop it in 6.55-58.

But we'll see fan festival is very soon and I would assume a 6.55 live letter will happen on the following day after main event.

Probably like they do the extreme mounts -- like with an entire expansion in between.

I saw some people say that the devs might have previously meant that you can just claim past season rewards if you earned them and forgot to claim them during that season, which makes sense as that's how it works currently -- but I really hope that this isn't all we get. I would really, really love it if we could spend all these excess trophy crystals on old rewards some day. Even if there's a long delay between when you can purchase old rewards, while that would still be annoying, I'd much prefer it to what we have right now.

if should be purchaseable it should be by getting some kind of special coins from both Rival Wings, Frontline and CC.

Would be the best way and since it is past pvp items, maybe another color to them, so you can see who actually wont special prices and places in competetative content.

And it should not be like easy.... 50 coins from Frontline and 50 coins from Rival wings. and 150 coins from CC to be able to purchase one of the items... each round drops 1 coin each, you need the amount of special coins from each PvP mode to be able to purchase.

1 additional thing, the game will record if you do well enough to deserve a coin, so you just can't cheese it by afking or the likes.

Then people can cry about that it requires work to do, but hey... that is how it is, at least did not suggest it all had to be wins.

The people who cry about how they need to participate in PvP, for PvP rewards deserve to be clowned on.

It's hard to say when these rewards will be implemented, I doubt it will be with 7.0, likely will be with later patches.

When they do though, I would expect that they bump up the crystal cap, and release the previous season rewards for purchase with a large sum of crystals.

Say we bump the capacity up to 50k crystals.
-Sell the mounts for 35k
-Sell sets for 10k per piece. (Basically what it costs for those non-augmented CC weapons already.)
-Emotes 10k a piece.
-Pets 5k a piece.

(Just a loose guideline. Doesn't have to be exactly this.)

Forces people to have to grind these rewards out over time. Is it a fun grind? No. Is it meant to be a fun grind? No. It's no different than farming out a relic weapon. It's something to work towards, and if you don't have the grit to do it, maybe you just dont deserve the reward. I'm sure the AFKers also wont get far, since they'll be losing games and not producing any crystals in the process.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

The people who cry about how they need to participate in PvP, for PvP rewards deserve to be clowned on.

It's hard to say when these rewards will be implemented, I doubt it will be with 7.0, likely will be with later patches.

When they do though, I would expect that they bump up the crystal cap, and release the previous season rewards for purchase with a large sum of crystals.

Say we bump the capacity up to 50k crystals.
-Sell the mounts for 35k
-Sell sets for 10k per piece. (Basically what it costs for those non-augmented CC weapons already.)
-Emotes 10k a piece.
-Pets 5k a piece.

(Just a loose guideline. Doesn't have to be exactly this.)

Forces people to have to grind these rewards out over time. Is it a fun grind? No. Is it meant to be a fun grind? No. It's no different than farming out a relic weapon. It's something to work towards, and if you don't have the grit to do it, maybe you just dont deserve the reward. I'm sure the AFKers also wont get far, since they'll be losing games and not producing any crystals in the process.

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you could make them wolf collars, do to the facvt you can have unl collars

so by conversion i dont mind if you make mounts cost 50 collars, or even 100

just as long its available, make it as expensive as they want

For those who are familiar with Deep Rock Galactic, the option to revisit a previous season in submenu, selecting any previous season's reward tracker as your active one, would also be a fine solution in this situation. That way, players still have to do the same grind as everyone else for old rewards and eliminate the FOMO. If they wanted to carbon copy DRG's model, they could add an xp boost to old seasons, so it reduces the time it takes to get completely caught up.

The pvp rewards shouldn't be exclusive to a season. They should just be adding rewards to the system and letting people buy them at any point, including the rare coffer armor or what not after it rotates. No one is going to have the energy to go to rank 25 every single season and most vets of the first two seasons probably don't want to go to rank 25 again.

i barely pvp and still managed to get to rank 30 every series. it's not that hard, unless you are only playing like once a week.

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i barely pvp and still managed to get to rank 30 every series. it's not that hard, unless you are only playing like once a week.

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I got rank 25 twice. They have competing super sinks with EX mount farming, Savage raiding and relic grinding. That is assuming someone isn't trying to do crafting as well on top of it like pentamelding craft gear and doing nodes. The game also gives benefits that save on costs for doing crafting jobs and gathering jobs that are simply passive, like being able to meld your own gear, which ultimately becomes important for people with limited time in the game.

The other problem is that some roles in pvp are... just plain bad in unorganized play. If I'm leveling dancer or reaper, do I want to subject myself to casual pvp matches where your main function requires coordination with the team to work? Dancer is great support but their LB takes too long to activate and all their abilities are meant to buff a teammate who has no idea what he is doing.

And the above is just an example with dancer. With frontline now giving series EXP it helps a bit assuming someone can manage to not lose their mind from doing daily frontlines. I don't think I've won a single frontlines I'm in since the changes to PvP in endwalker since the PvP changes are for CC, not for Frontlines. Frontlines just turns into who can fish a player from a school and tanking LB spam from dragoons. Since the population of players is so large compared to JP, there isn't an organized community doing the PvP. For better or worse the bigger the player population, the more emotionally driven vs intellectually driven the herd becomes.

who says you have to put 100% effort into a daily frontlines roulette all the time though? lol

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who says you have to put 100% effort into a daily frontlines roulette all the time though? lol

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If you applied the same logic to any other roulette in the game, you'd be kicked out of the party, or you'd make it take twice as long because of your lack of interest in participating. People shouldn't queue if they're not prepared to perform at their best, and would rather leech off the work of others.

that doesn't work because all the other roulettes are PVE. Frontlines is very much dependant on how much the other teams may or may not be stomping all over you.

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that doesn't work because all the other roulettes are PVE. Frontlines is very much dependant on how much the other teams may or may not be stomping all over you.

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I don't want to put effort into my dungeon roulette as a healer, so I don't do dps and I just spam one or two healing spells.
I don't want to put effort into alliance roulette so I mash buttons while watching my second monitor.
I don't want to put effort into my duties as a tank, so I pull one pack at a time spamming 2 aoe buttons.

This is all disruptive behaviour. It makes content take twice as long. It's just as disruptive in frontlines, even more so because you yourself say

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Frontlines is very much dependant on how much the other teams may or may not be stomping all over you.

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They wouldn't be stomping all over you if the players on your team were putting in effort and playing to win, not to collect a participation trophy at the end. The more effort your team puts in, the more stomping your team gets to do. In every other form of content poor gameplay and lack of effort is rewarded with removal from the party, exceptionally longer times to clear content, or just outright failing to clear alltogether. In front lines, deliberate lack of effort sabotages 23 other people who may be farming out achievements for wins, or who just want to have fun.

It's hard to even tell what is going on in frontlines because of the weird way that one works. I've seen mass battles work but usually it is a lot more guided where both sides are pushing against one another on a front. With three sides it's just a chaotic mess. Especially with how these matches are about taking random objectives across a map. CC I can sort of get behind, even if it does get repetitive.

frontlines is too chaotic with 3 teams going at it. most of the time when someone tries to "lead" most people tell them to shut the hell up. how are you supposed to deal with that then?

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

frontlines is too chaotic with 3 teams going at it. most of the time when someone tries to "lead" most people tell them to shut the hell up. how are you supposed to deal with that then?

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Good god man you've been playing this game for over 10 years and you need advice with dealing with toxic players? This has gotten very off topic, but regardless when PvP overflows into Alliance chat its literally either because the person making call outs is being toxic, or someone with a defeatist attitude is salty. In either case, just vote kick the clowns out and focus on winning.

Personally I primarily play on Primal, and I don't see this kind of thing happen very often. Most of the time its someone whining about supposed "cheating" in every other match.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

In either case, just vote kick the clowns out and focus on winning.

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you know what the success rate of a vote kick happening is? about 1 in 10.

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you know what the success rate of a vote kick happening is? about 1 in 10.

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And where exactly do you pull that statistic from?

from all the frontlines i've ever run. which is a lot.