"Add all DLC to Cart" - Mogstation Cash Shop is akin to a Train Simulator Price Tag

Train Simulator. Regardless of what release of the game, the price tag is what has made that game series notorious. Some releases with all DLC included could be $2000, $3000, or even more than $10,000 in a game about trains. Crazy right?

On the FFXIV Mogstation, there are about 695 Items you can purchase at this time of writing. (12/18/2023)


The most expensive option is 5 Vials of Fantasia at $45.
Second is the Lunar Whale Mount at $42
Third is 5 Copies of Tales of Adventure: One Retainer's Journey III at $40.50

The least expensive is the base wedding plan, since it is free. Otherwise, its tied with single pots of dye at $1.00 USD.

If you bought at least 1 of everything available to purchase (this includes single items and sets that could include those single items, totaling 695 items), it would cost around $5,417.36 USD.
If you bought at least 1 of every Online Store Exclusive Item (this includes single items and sets that could include those single items, totaling 281 items), it would cost $3,290.96 USD.
If you bought every level boost and story skip (this includes single items and bundles that could include those single items, totaling 26 items), it would cost $546 USD.

Im currently working on what each category costs rather than the total of everything together.

What are your thoughts?

Personally, I think its awful that so much is in the cash shop. We have so many avenues for items to be introduced to the game. Such as that one vendor in Gridania that uses the currency you get from achievements to get rewards. Another point, many of the glams do not support Viera and Hrothgars, which you'd hope that if you paid real money for something it'd be held to a higher standard.

Many of these items can be put on the Marketboard for in-game currency, creating a way of buying gold though it has an additional step to that whole song and dance, but more or less being official RMT. I was mistaken, I thought the Dye on Mogstation and its counterpart on the Marketboard were the same.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

Many of these items can be put on the Marketboard for in-game currency.

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which items can? most items are made specifically untradable and unmarketable. i guess maybe the dyes they sell?


secondly it doesnt bother my in anyway its more revenue for the game to insure its continued updates.

I don't think anything on the Mogstation can be sold on the market board.



The dyes from it are different items from the ones sellable.





Also, a lot of those items are useless to many. I have every event item from playing the game. All my jobs are already leveled.





So this post is somewhat disingenuous.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. Nothing in the shop is necessary to play the game.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If you don't like it, don't buy it. Nothing in the shop is necessary to play the game.

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"you can either look terrible or you can shell up the money, you dont need to look good in the game you can just look terrible for free !"

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

"you can either look terrible or you can shell up the money, you dont need to look good in the game you can just look terrible for free !"

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I've seen so many glams that don't use any mogstation items or dyes that look amazing.

Apologies, I was mistaken, I thought you could sell the Dyes on the Marketboard, I'll edit the main post to cross it out.

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Originally Posted by ManaEthielday

I've seen so many glams that don't use any mogstation items or dyes that look amazing.

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That's an opinion though, something that looks amazing to you might not look amazing for someone else ?

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

secondly it doesnt bother my in anyway its more revenue for the game to insure its continued updates.

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I suppose that makes sense in a way, but overall we either have as much content as we usually do or less of it. So I'm not sure where this money is going in terms of keeping the game alive? Is that not what a subscription is for?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Also, a lot of those items are useless to many. I have every event item from playing the game. All my jobs are already leveled.

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There are plenty of items that have not been released through an event, and just because you say they are useless to many does not make it true. Customizing a person's avatar and by extension their houses/apartments is what many say is the "True Endgame". Jokingly or not, how you look in-game is a big deal to nearly everyone and by extension their housing decor. Just because you have everything leveled, or even already own everything does not mean the size of the cash shop isn't an issue.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If you don't like it, don't buy it. Nothing in the shop is necessary to play the game.

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Even if you put aside cosmetic only items which are important even if they are not necessary, boosts are in the shop which expedite the process of leveling and even story progression. You could argue that alone makes it pay to win in way, as a newer player will not have access to areas that make leveling crafters, gatherers, and even Jobs easier, as well as access to some of those jobs.

Not that I think anyone is outright, but I don't see how anyone could justify having $5,400+ worth of stuff on a cash shop.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

Train Simulator. Regardless of what release of the game, the price tag is what has made that game series notorious. Some releases with all DLC included could be $2000, $3000, or even more than $10,000 in a game about trains. Crazy right?

On the FFXIV Mogstation, there are about 695 Items you can purchase at this time of writing. (12/18/2023)


The most expensive option is 5 Vials of Fantasia at $45.
Second is the Lunar Whale Mount
Third is 5 Copies of Tales of Adventure: One Retainer's Journey III

The least expensive is the base wedding plan, since it is free. Otherwise, its tied with single pots of dye at $1.00 USD.

If you bought atleast of 1 of everything available to purchase (this includes single items and sets that could include those single items), it would cost around $5,417.36 USD.

Im currently working on what each category costs rather than the total of everything together.

What are your thoughts?

Personally, I think its awful that so much is in the cash shop. We have so many avenues for items to be introduced to the game. Such as that one vendor in Gridania that uses the currency you get from achievements to get rewards. Another point, many of the glams do not support Viera and Hrothgars, which you'd hope that if you paid real money for something it'd be held to a higher standard.

Many of these items can be put on the Marketboard for in-game currency, creating a way of buying gold though it has an additional step to that whole song and dance, but more or less being official RMT. I was mistaken, I thought the Dye on Mogstation and its counterpart on the Marketboard were the same.

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No lol

As for the hroth/Viera thing when it comes to glam. That comes down to male/female only glam and they been making more and more equippable to either sex. I'm more astonished you didn't mention hairstyles which is the main issue

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

I suppose that makes sense in a way, but overall we either have as much content as we usually do or less of it. So I'm not sure where this money is going in terms of keeping the game alive? Is that not what a subscription is for?

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in short no. if maybe this was a game studio that only had this mmo i could say sure but this is SE it has to hit a quota and make money to help future projects outside of this game that is the reality of it or the game will eventually be considered dead and the last thing we want is FF11 were you pay a sub for a left for dead game.

Just change to Hyur once, and don't waste moeny on fantasia anymore

Yes, it's a lot of items but I don't really have a complaint about it.
We haven't seen any reduction in cosmetics or good cosmetics in-game, the cash-shop works as an asides to normal content is is extra.

Square Enix could really be doing far more with the cash-shop to be honest, the amount of clothing and hair that could sell monthly would be far greater if they released them more regularly. If they released a hairstyle a month I'm sure there would be *many* people would would buy all, or most of them. Players want more and this is strongly evidenced by forbidden things against the TOS that people actively seek and even pay for.

Again, it's fine as long as the content in the main game isn't reduced, or they start selling more convenience than they are now. I got a bit more of a problem with the retainer service charge than cosmetics shop.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

"you can either look terrible or you can shell up the money, you dont need to look good in the game you can just look terrible for free !"

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I am absolutely in the camp of wanting more unique glamour sets to be rewards in-game rather than simply mogstation items, but I'm not against mogstation glamour entirely either. I don't agree that the only way to look good is to "shell up the money." There's a lot more variety with in-game sets than there are mogstation sets. I do use some mogstation sets myself, but I also use sets off the mogstation as well. It's just not being charitable to suggest that the all the gear available in the game is entirely terrible and there are no exceptions, which is what this sentiment implies.

Meh, a big chunk of those items are old event items as well.

IMHO the only things I see as contentious in the store are the job skips and the Cloud Bike with the built in speed boost.

The rest of it is horse DLC tier, largely ignorable and completely sidesteppable if it really bothers you.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

If you bought atleast of 1 of everything available to purchase (this includes single items and sets that could include those single items), it would cost around $5,417.36 USD.

Im currently working on what each category costs rather than the total of everything together.

What are your thoughts?

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I think you're being disingenuous.

There is simply no need for the average player to buy everything from the store or even everything in a single category.

Level and MSQ boosts are completely unnecessary, especially if you don't have alts.

You can be selective with which glamours and mounts you buy, if any. Some people will already have a fair chunk of it if they've been subscribed to the game for a while and earned the seasonal gear from the original events. Not everything looks good on every character, and some of the items (especially the older beach gear) are just the same thing in five different colours and gender-exclusive models.

Do you go into a clothes shop in real life and say it's a rip-off because of how expensive it would be to buy one of everything they're selling?

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

That's an opinion though, something that looks amazing to you might not look amazing for someone else ?

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Just like your "claim" that everything in-game is "terrible"? Isn't that just an opinion, too? Oh my...

Personally, I've never bought a single thing off the cash shop, and when it comes to glams, my biggest complaint is the limited number of sets you can create...there's so many transmogs I like that from the in-game gear that it annoys me I can only set up a few for each role.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

Just like your "claim" that everything in-game is "terrible"? Isn't that just an opinion, too? Oh my...

Personally, I've never bought a single thing off the cash shop, and when it comes to glams, my biggest complaint is the limited number of sets you can create...there's so many transmogs I like that from the in-game gear that it annoys me I can only set up a few for each role.

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I never said it wasn't only my opinion lol, it's implied that it is because it's logical that it's just my own personal opinion

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I never said it wasn't only my opinion lol, it's implied that it is because it's logical that it's just my own personal opinion

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Ahaha, typical Striker L. Never gets old.

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

Ahaha, typical Striker L. Never gets old.

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Some things never change lmao

I don't know about ffxiv, but in wow the 1st store sold item took about 15 hours to make and made more then all of starcraft.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

Personally, I think its awful that so much is in the cash shop. We have so many avenues for items to be introduced to the game.

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A large percentage of the items were available in the game for free from seasonal events (including many mounts, minions, emotes, glamour, maybe orchestrions). They were only intended to be available that one time, but SE was willing to let you obtain them still if you were willing to pay.

A lot of other items come from characters in the MSQ, which again, they don't really want you to wear because it detracts from how unique those characters are, but if you're willing to pay, they are willing to ignore all that.

The level boost and MSQ skip packs are not something they want people to buy. They want them to go through the story. But if they insist on skipping the story they worked so hard on to the point they are willing to pay, SE is willing to let them.

There may also be primals versions of music that is again not the versions used in the game or that they intend for the game experience anyway and buying the music is meant to cost as well.

What remains is the mounts that were never part of seasonal events and were designed exclusively for the mog station. There is a lot more controversy over these, but they are only a percentage of things on the mog station, amongst lots of things that were previously available in the game or that SE doesn't really want you to get anyway.

I'll never support (as in actively defend) cash shops in video games, I think they're inherently predatory and unnecessary.

That said, I've used them myself, and feel no guilt over it and have nothing against people that do use it (unless you try to brag about spending real money on a video game as a 'look at all the money I have lul' thing)

Majority of the cash shop's contents are 9 years worth of Seasonal Event rewards and old promotional reward stuff.

If you enable the "Online Store Exclusive" filter the various categories, it hides all the Seasonal Event stuff. And even there will be some outfits you shouldn't buy as they're gender locked, most specifically the NPC outfits.
Additionally on the outfits, they're often rather questionably designed for when it comes to Miqo'te, Au Ra and Rrothgar as the people designing the outfits don't seem to know that races with tails exist in the game.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I think you're being disingenuous.

There is simply no need for the average player to buy everything from the store or even everything in a single category.

Level and MSQ boosts are completely unnecessary, especially if you don't have alts.

You can be selective with which glamours and mounts you buy, if any. Some people will already have a fair chunk of it if they've been subscribed to the game for a while and earned the seasonal gear from the original events. Not everything looks good on every character, and some of the items (especially the older beach gear) are just the same thing in five different colours and gender-exclusive models.

Do you go into a clothes shop in real life and say it's a rip-off because of how expensive it would be to buy one of everything they're selling?

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How is stating a undeniable fact being disingenuous? Roughly, the total price of all cash shop items combined is $5,417.36 USD

I don't know why are you are trying to equate a virtual shop for a online video game to being the same as a real life clothing store. Aside from, you buy thing and see thing, there really isn't a comparison to be made. If anything, it being a virtual shop for a online video game, the total price should be considerably lower since you can't run out of anything on sale.

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Originally Posted by SalamanderIX

We haven't seen any reduction in cosmetics or good cosmetics in-game, the cash-shop works as an asides to normal content is is extra.

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This may be a hot take, but I think this expansion has had the weakest lineup of in-game glam offerings to date, and it doesn't help that most of the dungeon sets have been recolors of old gear (I get that they're probably trying to lessen the workload for the graphical update but still). I've hardly seen anybody walking around wearing the Varsity or Salon Server's glam (and the prices for their mats show how unpopular they are too). No one seems to want anything to do with the variant dungeon glam. The sheer popularity of this patch's PVP gear and the Martial Artist's sets tell me that people have been starved for decent glam in EW. I don't know, maybe I'm speaking out of turn but I remember more people wearing and enjoying the glam in older expansions.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Majority of the cash shop's contents are 9 years worth of Seasonal Event rewards and old promotional reward stuff.

If you enable the "Online Store Exclusive" filter the various categories, it hides all the Seasonal Event stuff.

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I didn't know about this filter, so I checked it out. There are 281 items in total, summing up to about $3,290.96 USD. Thats more than half the total Cash Shop money wise and about 40% of all items!

I've no real grievance. With rare exceptions, I just buy outfits as they're released. I've been playing since Heavensward, so it's no big deal for me to own every minion and emote in the shop, half the mounts, and many of the outfits.

Also, discounting events, we've had no new outfits since the Iceheart Attire back in September, and no new mounts since the Garlond GL-IS back in July, so 5 months.

If anything, they're behind on the traditional pacing of one addition every half patch.

Isn't alot of that stuff for train simulator actually gameplay add ons? Like new locations, scenarios, and trains?

Exclusive numbers... excluding costume sets from NPCs, weapons (which seem to be from NPCs too), orchestrions (all from the Primals or orchestral bands), boosts (which are unnecessary), seasonal event items, dyes (which have versions available in the game), fantasia (which although is only limited in the amount you get in the game, still technically gives it in the game).

5 bardings
26 mounts (2 of which are recolors, and 3 of which are recolors of non-exclusive mounts)
24 emotes
4 pieces of armor (carbuncle slippers and a moogle hat)
8 minions
30 housing items (mostly posters of the expansions, expansion release statues you could get real life versions of, and some carbuncle and moogle stuff)
38 costume sets (I got this by comparing NPC sets to store exclusive and only including the ones not found in NPC sets)

Clearly the worst categories here are mounts, emotes and costume sets. The others are whatever, don't have much in or are just about carbuncles and moogles. I feel that there are often similar costume sets available in the game to the ones that are exclusive as well.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

I didn't know about this filter, so I checked it out. There are 281 items in total, summing up to about $3,290.96 USD. Thats more than half the total Cash Shop money wise and about 40% of all items!

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Now take out the boosts and story skips.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Now take out the boosts and story skips.

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Buying every boost and story skip is about $546 USD.
If you took them out of all online exclusive items, the remaining total is around $2744.96 USD.
That is just over half the total price of all items on the Cash Shop!

Why would you want to exclude them however? They are an item available for purchase like any other.

I will point out that stuff like Train Sim, DCS, MSFS are bad a comparison They build in-depth niche products for niche audiences and are often not developed by the same studio. Nor is it expected for people to own all the DLC(modules) take DCS for example, somebody might be a big WW2 warbird enjoyer so they have Spitfire, P-51 and BF-109 modules and couldn't care less about the Jet and Rotary wing modules.

To me the idea of a potion skip is horrible because it means that the leveling experience in FF14 is so bad you'd rather pay to not have to go through it.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

Buying every boost and story skip is about $546 USD.
If you took them out of all online exclusive items, the remaining total is around $2744.96 USD.
That is just over half the total price of all items on the Cash Shop!

Why would you want to exclude them however? They are an item available for purchase like any other.

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Because most people won't buy them. I've been playing for 10 years (more really, but 1.0 was kind of different) and I own no cash shop mounts, only about half the female outfits. Most of my purchases have been fantasias.


Leveling in this game is so easy, no one needs to buy skips.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Because most people won't buy them. I've been playing for 10 years (more really, but 1.0 was kind of different) and I own no cash shop mounts, only about half the female outfits. Most of my purchases have been fantasias.


Leveling in this game is so easy, no one needs to buy skips.

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Just because you dont buy things, doesnt mean they should not be included in the overall price. There is no data to go off of about if most people do or don't buy boosts or skips.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

Just because you dont buy things, doesnt mean they should not be included in the overall price. There is no data to go off of about if most people do or don't buy boosts or skips.

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If you pay attention to this forum or other places most posters say they haven't bought a skip. Or that they would buy one for an alt character as they didn't enjoy leveling up a job the first time. Same thing with story skips. Bought for alts because they don't want to go through the msq again or want to skip ARR. The only other time these even get mentioned is when someone comes here and complains about the early parts of the game. Thinking that they need to rush to the end game to have any amount of fun. Thinking that this game let alone its end game is anything akin to the other MMO they're coming over from. Or that the only way for them to have fun with their friends who have access to whatever the current end game is is to go and buy those skips. Many whom after they've gone and done so have come on here to post about their regret of ever doing so. As they didn't realize how rich this game's story is or how fun the older raids and trials are that they didn't realize again existed. That they could have gone and done while progressing their way through the MSQ.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

Just because you dont buy things, doesnt mean they should not be included in the overall price.

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Another way to put it, is that you don't need to buy them because you can simply level up the normal way by doing roulettes, quests and the MSQ.

In contrast, if a mount has never been available in the game, then your only way to get it is to buy it, which makes some collectors feel forced to pay.

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There is no data to go off of about if most people do or don't buy boosts or skips.

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A lot of people buy them, especially for alts or if they are not into story games but came for the raids, but ultimately that is a choice they made and the point is that they had a choice in the first place, which is not the case for many of the mounts for example.

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Originally Posted by KenZentra

Just because you dont buy things, doesnt mean they should not be included in the overall price. There is no data to go off of about if most people do or don't buy boosts or skips.

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And no one has bought literally every item in the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

And no one has bought literally every item in the cash shop.

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There are actually people who play this game wealthy enough to do that, so there almost certainly are people who have bought the lion's share of it. I have hung around mount collectors that always buy the latest mog station mount. Many of them probably got them over many years as the items released but there are people that could buy the whole thing. There are probably things like glams that they don't care for though.