I want MORE

I want more graphic update pics. Especially pics of female xaela au ra and female keeper of the moon miqote. I need to see those textures too!! Gimme something to look forward to! D: i dont wanna imagine how it would look with the pics we have gotten. (Hmmmm how would that look with dark scales? Would the scales color change a little? Or, how would the mooncat eye texture change? Would they still have that slight glow? Ect)
Im impatient and dont really wanna wait until summer 24 to Get those answers.
I wanna Get some pics of my characters clans too please. I also heard that people with dark skin havent been represented either, so i guess slap that in there too.

You will most likely get to see it in the benchmark client about a month before release, so you will have to opportunity to see a month before purchasing and create a character appearance that can be saved and used in the real client.

Yoshi-P spent 30 minutes of the two hour keynote at EU Fanfest talking about and demonstrating the new Lalafell chins. If that's demonstrative of the output of this "graphics update" I'd rather they didn't bother and instead used that money and development time on something else. There are graphical mods and retextures made by the community that are free and infinitely better.

I wish they'd devoted some of that time to adding more customization options in general... 4 faces per race/gender is way too few, and all the worse in cases like Au Ra, where they're even more bogged down by the unchangeable horns. That moment last Fanfest they introduced with "Au Ra Horns and Scales" or whatever it was in giant letters, only for it to amount to just... they reduced the glossiness by 20% keeps me up at night...

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Originally Posted by Anonemoose

Yoshi-P spent 30 minutes of the two hour keynote at EU Fanfest talking about and demonstrating the new Lalafell chins. If that's demonstrative of the output of this "graphics update" I'd rather they didn't bother and instead used that money and development time on something else. There are graphical mods and retextures made by the community that are free and infinitely better.

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Rofl. I've seen the third party cosmetic addons and most just look like cheap barbie knockoffs. The cope of people who think they are improving the game with those abominations is so funny. It isn't as bad as cheating in end game content, but it is definitely really close.

There are some good ones out there

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Rofl. I've seen the third party cosmetic addons and most just look like cheap barbie knockoffs. The cope of people who think they are improving the game with those abominations is so funny. It isn't as bad as cheating in end game content, but it is definitely really close.

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Maaaaaan there is no nuance with you at all.

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Originally Posted by Mosha

Maaaaaan there is no nuance with you at all.

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They got a point. There some good graphics mods or well...lighting and color mods to be honest but most of the mods look so out of place and slooty

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Originally Posted by Anonemoose

Yoshi-P spent 30 minutes of the two hour keynote at EU Fanfest talking about and demonstrating the new Lalafell chins. If that's demonstrative of the output of this "graphics update" I'd rather they didn't bother and instead used that money and development time on something else. There are graphical mods and retextures made by the community that are free and infinitely better.

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I think you are overestimating the mods lol. I have seen the graphic mods available, and it looks like shit. Atleast compared to the sceenshots of the graphic update 7.0.
The modders are able to upgrade the textures by a tiny percent by sharpening them. Reshades on the other hand do look pretty good. But an actual graphic update that changes the game on the level that square enix is about to do doesnt exist and its not gonna exist either.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Rofl. I've seen the third party cosmetic addons and most just look like cheap barbie knockoffs. The cope of people who think they are improving the game with those abominations is so funny. It isn't as bad as cheating in end game content, but it is definitely really close.

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Didnt this person talk about graphic mods and not cometic addons?

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

I wish they'd devoted some of that time to adding more customization options in general... 4 faces per race/gender is way too few, and all the worse in cases like Au Ra, where they're even more bogged down by the unchangeable horns. That moment last Fanfest they introduced with "Au Ra Horns and Scales" or whatever it was in giant letters, only for it to amount to just... they reduced the glossiness by 20% keeps me up at night...

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Definintely. More options would be amazing. I feel like if they are ever gonna add more character creation options its gonna be now at the graphic update. For all races we need more presets, better and more makeup options, au ra needs seperate horns, i would love different ear options for miqote. There are many cat races with different ear shapes. The folded ear, the lynx/maine coon ear, very fluffy, short fur ect. And would love if you could have patterns on the tail and ear sort of like hrotgar. Stripes or spots. Au ra and miqote are my fav races so thats all i can think about right now xD

I want it all
I want it all
I want it all
And I want it NOW!

friendly reminder ,in this type of scenarios , always keep your expectations low....

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Originally Posted by keichirou

friendly reminder ,in this type of scenarios , always keep your expectations low....

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to see all races and clans represented in the graphic update pictures?

I have seen the good and the bad side of the FF14 mod community. There are lot of mods that have the ripped from the game. Tweaked a bit then thrown online like its some kind of improvement feel to them.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

to see all races and clans represented in the graphic update pictures?

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We'll get there sooner or later. It doesn't really make a difference whether we get shown every single race right now or later when we get closer.

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to see all races and clans represented in the graphic update pictures?

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For it to have any noticeable impact. Come on now, you saw the same images I did. Graphics hit “good enough” somewhere around morrowind and there hasn’t really been that much improvement since.
It doesn’t even matter much when combat is visual vomit to the point reduced vfx is about as far as you can go without being blinded. As with several recent decisions- shb support changes, island sanctuary, ew relic, summoner rework, ew hitboxes, 2 min standardisation, adventure plates - it isn’t all that apparent who it is for or why they would want it.

Keep in mind also that there'll be a benchmark sometime before Dawntrail actually releases (it was 4 months prior in EW's case, but with the graphics update it might take longer). But they did end up fixing the male Viera pose, so perhaps they'll be as receptive to criticism this time around also?

I want it NOW

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For it to have any noticeable impact. Come on now, you saw the same images I did. Graphics hit “good enough” somewhere around morrowind and there hasn’t really been that much improvement since.
It doesn’t even matter much when combat is visual vomit to the point reduced vfx is about as far as you can go without being blinded. As with several recent decisions- shb support changes, island sanctuary, ew relic, summoner rework, ew hitboxes, 2 min standardisation, adventure plates - it isn’t all that apparent who it is for or why they would want it.

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Yeah i saw the same images you did, and i thought they looked really good. And its also not done yet and will get even better. Everything doesnt need to look hyper realistic to look good.
And morrowind? The hell you on about. That shit is pixelated and there is tons of games that is a billion times better in graphics xD

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Yeah i saw the same images you did, and i thought they looked really good. And its also not done yet and will get even better. Everything doesnt need to look hyper realistic to look good.
And morrowind? The hell you on about. That shit is pixelated and there is tons of games that is a billion times better in graphics xD

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If you cast your mind back ten years to a game that looked good, chances are it’s either highly stylised or has poorly aged. Shaders also can carry a lot of weight. They have said nothing about adjusting tall race walk cycles, cloth physics and the aspects that they’re layering the new paint on which are pretty difficult to ignore. Things are still going to clip, there’s going to be weird suppression of clothing parts and no one will be able to see any of it under the gaudy light show in combat.
I mentioned morrowind because we’ve all seen that nvidia tech demo with the ai upscale/rtx light sources. Although it looked really good, it also still looked like a game released in 2001. Ultimately that doesn’t matter because it has been a good enough medium for the story to be presented through with a pretty consistent and alien aesthetic letting the viewer’s mind fill in the cracks. The ff14 update just looks like they’re aware that a big enough discrepancy between paint and model looks odd but are pushing ahead into the uncanny territory. The scattered stuff around the place -broken stairs, grass etc - looked like a mitigating effort though, I’ll give them that.

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Originally Posted by fulminating

If you cast your mind back ten years to a game that looked good, chances are it’s either highly stylised or has poorly aged. Shaders also can carry a lot of weight. They have said nothing about adjusting tall race walk cycles, cloth physics and the aspects that they’re layering the new paint on which are pretty difficult to ignore. Things are still going to clip, there’s going to be weird suppression of clothing parts and no one will be able to see any of it under the gaudy light show in combat.
I mentioned morrowind because we’ve all seen that nvidia tech demo with the ai upscale/rtx light sources. Although it looked really good, it also still looked like a game released in 2001. Ultimately that doesn’t matter because it has been a good enough medium for the story to be presented through with a pretty consistent and alien aesthetic letting the viewer’s mind fill in the cracks. The ff14 update just looks like they’re aware that a big enough discrepancy between paint and model looks odd but are pushing ahead into the uncanny territory. The scattered stuff around the place -broken stairs, grass etc - looked like a mitigating effort though, I’ll give them that.

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You keep mentioning the light in combat, you know you can turn that off right?

We dont know if they will improve the game in other ways than the preview pictures. Maybe they will improve physics and some of the other stuff you are mentioning. But nontheless, Even if they arent, everything is better than nothing right? Even if they only add the stuff in the previews, m its still a ton better then what it was, and for that i am excited. I never really expected an update and i actually like how the game looks to begin with. It gives me sims 3 but better vibes, i personally like that look in a game. While i enjoy super realistic games i also enjoy more cartoon games. The update is improving the game in a beautiful way imo. They are still keeping the orginal feel of the game, but still improving things like shading, skin, eye color, and just making the overall look of the game much prettier. Dont know why some people including you feel the giant urge to complain about this lol.