Dragoons Max Status?

What do i need for Max status on DRG 350 STR 310 PIE?

I use the following:
Darklight Helm +15 STR
Darklight Corselet +20 STR
Scarlet Sash +3 PTY
Militia Subligar +20 PTY
Darklight Caligae +15 PTY
Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying 3x meld +43 STR
Explorer's Earrings
Electrum Gorget +1
Tourmaline Bracelets +1 +4 PTY
Tourmaline Ring +1 +18 PTY
Rubellite Ring +1 +18 STR

This gives me 351 STR, 305 PTY (312 after Jerked Beef)

This is just one way to hit cap, no matter how you do it you are going to need rare gear or a few 3x meld crafted.

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This is just one way to hit cap, no matter how you do it you are going to need rare gear or a few 3x meld crafted.

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You can achieve it with mostly double-melds, if you're wise with it.
I'll only need one triple melded STR on my hands to push my STR to cap or near-cap. And Piety will hit cap as soon as I get LT helm and I don't got a single piece of Darklight.

LT helm only gives PTY if you happen to be from the Gridania company.
If you are form Limsa you Ul'dah, you need to triple meld PTY on your body.

my LS leader uses:
storm lieutenant spear
3x pie tortoiseshell scale mail +50 pie
3x str felt bracers +50 str
rubelite ring +1
storm sergeant hose
acc ring +1
explorers choker
storm sergeant's bracelet
storm sergeant's earring
darklight helm
veterans field belt

cant remember shoes off bat, but it caps stats, and parses competetively if not more than our best geared blms on garuda.

just off hand i can tell you felt bracers > raptorskin gloves, and veterans > scarlet sash. also PIE is a stat, PTY isnt.

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

my LS leader uses:
storm lieutenant spear
3x pie tortoiseshell scale mail +50 pie
3x str felt bracers +50 str
rubelite ring +1
storm sergeant hose
acc ring +1
explorers choker
storm sergeant's bracelet
storm sergeant's earring
darklight helm
veterans field belt

cant remember shoes off bat, but it caps stats, and parses competetively if not more than our best geared blms on garuda.

just off hand i can tell you felt bracers > raptorskin gloves, and veterans > scarlet sash. also PIE is a stat, PTY isnt.

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If you know what they meant then why does it matter, also if you have enough ACC and str but need more piety, veterans DOES NOT > scarlet. Also I agree with the felt bracers BUT depending on how you reach your goal the atk from it can > felt bracers. Please do not come in here again and try to lecture a fellow dragoon when you obviously don't know what you are saying. Especially when it sounds like you don't even play drg. Leave the trolling to general discussion please.

Sorry if you find me to come off rude, but I find it very rude of your last statement.

you could argue "flame sergent sash > veterans" if you need to wear any acc gear at all, you can value a piece by its cumulative pie+str+acc as long as your below caps. The value of store TP might be even more valuable for DRG since your power surge is dirrectly related to how fast and quickly you can get through 10/20 ws's. After 20 you have maxed your drg's power surge.

In general, different Dragoons will reach different optimum builds, if nothing else, the differing equipment available to people under Different Grand Companies proves this.

I tend to prefer Felt Over Raptorskin because of the difficulty reaching Piety cap.

I have to wonder, Amanda, if you're the one posting that loan Tripple Piety Meld Tortiseshell on the Markets right now though, with how you're advertising it so much. If so, do you take loans? - cause I wants it. :3

I'm from Ul'dal what Pants should i get?

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

I have to wonder, Amanda, if you're the one posting that loan Tripple Piety Meld Tortiseshell on the Markets right now though, with how you're advertising it so much. If so, do you take loans? - cause I wants it. :3

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It's not mine, sorry.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

If you know what they meant then why does it matter, also if you have enough ACC and str but need more piety, veterans DOES NOT > scarlet. Also I agree with the felt bracers BUT depending on how you reach your goal the atk from it can > felt bracers. Please do not come in here again and try to lecture a fellow dragoon when you obviously don't know what you are saying. Especially when it sounds like you don't even play drg. Leave the trolling to general discussion please.

Sorry if you find me to come off rude, but I find it very rude of your last statement.

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average joes arent going to be capping str with just basic gear, PIE is the LEAST important stat on a drg, and unless youre a gillionaire/have an amazing static, there is no way in hell OP is going to be capping acc either thus veterans is superior. so rather than attacking my character and trying to tell me im wrong, go actually try to learn the class.

felt bracers has pie and acc, both which are far superior to a minute amount of attack.

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

average joes arent going to be capping str with just basic gear, PIE is the LEAST important stat on a drg, and unless youre a gillionaire/have an amazing static, there is no way in hell OP is going to be capping acc either thus veterans is superior. so rather than attacking my character and trying to tell me im wrong, go actually try to learn the class.

felt bracers has pie and acc, both which are far superior to a minute amount of attack.

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That great and all, but OP was asking how to get max stats, someone gave him their set up and you tried to say "so and so is better" while also trying to lash out at them for saying something retarded about PTY and PIE to make yourself look better by correcting something that doesn't matter.

Like I said, if you are already at str cap and enough ACC, what you said would be wrong about those being best in this situation, like I also said, it depends how you get to your max stats etc.... Does no one on these forums read? Because I never said you wrong (well till essentially now). I told you to not jump in here and not use your head pretty much.

I really should get away from these forums, too many idiots. I really hope loldrg never makes it back, but IDK if there is any hope.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

That great and all, but OP was asking how to get max stats, someone gave him their set up and you tried to say "so and so is better" while also trying to lash out at them for saying something retarded about PTY and PIE to make yourself look better by correcting something that doesn't matter.

Like I said, if you are already at str cap and enough ACC, what you said would be wrong about those being best in this situation, like I also said, it depends how you get to your max stats etc.... Does no one on these forums read? Because I never said you wrong (well till essentially now). I told you to not jump in here and not use your head pretty much.

I really should get away from these forums, too many idiots. I really hope loldrg never makes it back, but IDK if there is any hope.

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1. theres nothing "trying to look" better about correcting a stupid mistake, it is PIE not PTY.
2. you did call me wrong, and insulted me in the process.

go patronize someone else with your misleading information, and arrogant attitude, as the only idiot here is you.

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

1. theres nothing "trying to look" better about correcting a stupid mistake, it is PIE not PTY.
2. you did call me wrong, and insulted me in the process.

go patronize someone else with your misleading information, and arrogant attitude, as the only idiot here is you.

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Cool story

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Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss

I use the following:
Darklight Helm +15 STR
Darklight Corselet +20 STR
Scarlet Sash +3 PTY
Militia Subligar +20 PTY
Darklight Caligae +15 PTY
Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying 3x meld +43 STR
Explorer's Earrings
Electrum Gorget +1
Tourmaline Bracelets +1 +4 PTY
Tourmaline Ring +1 +18 PTY
Rubellite Ring +1 +18 STR

This gives me 351 STR, 305 PTY (312 after Jerked Beef)

This is just one way to hit cap, no matter how you do it you are going to need rare gear or a few 3x meld crafted.

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Lets use this info again. She/he is at her caps with jerked beef, but around 369ish acc (idk for sure because I'm a highlander so she may have a diff ACC.) solo. That's not even including the fact they may be using Garuda, which would be 394ish ACC maybe give or take a couple. Now again, this is solo, not even full PT buff. Now please explain to me my misleading info where a str/acc belt and a pie/acc gloves are going to be better then what they have. She would be getting more benefit with the atk from the gloves she is using then adding on more pie/acc.

I am a complete idiot though, I understand

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

1. theres nothing "trying to look" better about correcting a stupid mistake, it is PIE not PTY.
2. you did call me wrong, and insulted me in the process.

go patronize someone else with your misleading information, and arrogant attitude, as the only idiot here is you.

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1.) Nic picking a small detail like PIE and PTY shows that you would rather troll than answer the question
2.) What exactly about the information he is giving is misleading. If you cant reply to me with qoutes he said supported by facts to counter them than i dont suggest replying at all lest you look like an idiot. But in the end its up to the OP whos advice he wants to take, a dragoon whos done endgame fights or a person who doesnt even have dragoon leveled. At this point i cant help but think this person is trolling.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

Cool story



Lets use this info again. She/he is at her caps with jerked beef, but around 369ish acc (idk for sure because I'm a highlander so she may have a diff ACC.) solo. That's not even including the fact they may be using Garuda, which would be 394ish ACC maybe give or take a couple. Now again, this is solo, not even full PT buff. Now please explain to me my misleading info where a str/acc belt and a pie/acc gloves are going to be better then what they have. She would be getting more benefit with the atk from the gloves she is using then adding on more pie/acc.

I am a complete idiot though, I understand

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Rofl, you complete don't understand DL set, DL Caligae and DL Corselet alone give +28 Acc. He also has Garuda's Spine, which add +25 Acc, with DL pieces that's +53 Acc. If your buddy loldrg said he has 341 Acc naked, that's 341 + 53 = 394 Acc without any Acc boost accessories. Go trolling somewhere, loldrg. You seriously know nothing about gears and spam nonesense here. If he seriously wants Acc, Stuffed Cabbage give both 34 Acc and 7 PIE.

Oops I forgot: No, you are wrong.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Rofl, you complete don't understand DL set, DL Caligae and DL Corselet alone give +28 Acc. He also has Garuda's Spine, which add +25 Acc, with DL pieces that's +53 Acc. If your buddy loldrg said he has 341 Acc naked, that's 341 + 53 = 394 Acc without any Acc boost accessories. Go trolling somewhere, loldrg. You seriously know nothing about gears and spam nonesense here.

Oops I forgot: No, you are wrong.

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Huh, wtf are you talking about?

Oops........

Yea well I'm dumb.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Rofl, you complete don't understand DL set, DL Caligae and DL Corselet alone give +28 Acc. He also has Garuda's Spine, which add +25 Acc, with DL pieces that's +53 Acc. If your buddy loldrg said he has 341 Acc naked, that's 341 + 53 = 394 Acc without any Acc boost accessories. Go trolling somewhere, loldrg. You seriously know nothing about gears and spam nonesense here. If he seriously wants Acc, Stuffed Cabbage give both 34 Acc and 7 PIE.

Oops I forgot: No, you are wrong.

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^ no normal, everyday drg is going to achieve this over night. to set it as the standard is just plain dumb.
people should be giving OP realistic advice, not I HAVE A GIGANTIC EPEEN LOOK AT MY 1337 GEAR advice.

average gear the OP can get could include:
hart guisarme/gc spear
cobalt haubergeon/tortoiseshell scale mail +2x pie
cobalt mitt/felt bracers 2x str
veteran's field belt
AFpants/GC hose (if your from limsa these are decent)
af shoes
af helmet
2x str or 1xstr 1x acc ring
electrum gorget
explorers or GC earring (again, limsa's is great)

capping stats isnt as important as capping acc, because it harms your damage a lot more than missing some str would.

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

^ no normal, everyday drg is going to achieve this over night. to set it as the standard is just plain dumb.
people should be giving OP realistic advice, not I HAVE A GIGANTIC EPEEN LOOK AT MY 1337 GEAR advice.

average gear the OP can get could include:
hart guisarme/gc spear
cobalt haubergeon/tortoiseshell scale mail +2x pie
cobalt mitt/felt bracers 2x str
veteran's field belt
AFpants/GC hose (if your from limsa these are decent)
af shoes
af helmet
2x str or 1xstr 1x acc ring
electrum gorget
explorers or GC earring (again, limsa's is great)

capping stats isnt as important as capping acc, because it harms your damage a lot more than missing some str would.

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Quit trying to change your story, its saddening. Now that you know you are wrong in that situation its all about the average guy now? Also, any "average" guy the has the means and time to meld gear also has access to get darklight, it is puggable dungeons. I'm just saying, so the AVERAGE JOE can get that gear. "Blah blah blah I know you are right but you are a troll and apparently mislead people with accurate information."

I like drama.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

Quit trying to change your story, its saddening. Now that you know you are wrong in that situation its all about the average guy now? Also, any "average" guy the has the means and time to meld gear also has access to get darklight, it is puggable dungeons. I'm just saying, so the AVERAGE JOE can get that gear. "Blah blah blah I know you are right but you are a troll and apparently mislead people with accurate information."

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im not changing anything jackass. the topic has been changed, get with the times.

not only that, you arent going to PUG garuda or a speed run with random people, it just doesnt work that way.

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

im not changing anything jackass. the topic has been changed, get with the times.

not only that, you arent going to PUG garuda or a speed run with random people, it just doesnt work that way.

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Pug people all the time. Find better pugs.

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

^ no normal, everyday drg is going to achieve this over night. to set it as the standard is just plain dumb.
people should be giving OP realistic advice, not I HAVE A GIGANTIC EPEEN LOOK AT MY 1337 GEAR advice.

average gear the OP can get could include:
hart guisarme/gc spear
cobalt haubergeon/tortoiseshell scale mail +2x pie
cobalt mitt/felt bracers 2x str
veteran's field belt
AFpants/GC hose (if your from limsa these are decent)
af shoes
af helmet
2x str or 1xstr 1x acc ring
electrum gorget
explorers or GC earring (again, limsa's is great)

capping stats isnt as important as capping acc, because it harms your damage a lot more than missing some str would.

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I'm going to say go for a Hart +1 if at all possible as a first priority, given how DPS is a major factor in damage output of our Weapon Skills. Keep in mind that you can socket at least one good meteria on it to offset any losses in your base stats (Including Accuracy) of your build. It won't make up for the whole of the damage output, but it will help offset the loss a little.

When the consumable Sanction item comes out, the Sergeant's spear becomes an obvious superior to Heart, and cheap to purchase. For those who do not have continual successes in runs currently, however, Sanction itself isn't a dependable mechanic. That changes depending on the cost effectiveness of the Sanction Consumable.


If you're shopping on Excalibur, you're likely going to find more double Piety Melds for tortoiseshell than Colbalt. Provided you have an Armorer in your LS, however, I'd recommend you go to them. To do Melds for you. Gathering or buying the meterials for the armor and taking the chance on getting a lucky early meld often works out cheaper than blowing several million on a body piece. In those situations you're paying for someone else's bad luck.

The same goes worth Cobalt/Felt mitts.

I consider Belts an Accessory, and will explain why in a minute.

No comment on Limsa Hose, Gridanian flatly isn't worth it.

Boots are flexible. Cobalt comes with some accuracy and STR attached so keep that in mind.


Now a lot of my build is fluid through inexpensive means. Just gathering together some of the cheaper accessories, belts, and legs can let you change an aspect of your build depending on what you are fighting on the fly.

Here's an example: For accuracy. I've Veterans Belt, Explorer's Choker, Electrum Rings, and Cobalt Sollerets.

For Enmity: I use DRG AF boots and a Melded Belt. Usually I wear this when split groups are concerned or I'm worried about ripping hate off the Tank.

If I'm solo or not in any real concern for either of the above, I've Got explorer's Belt and Boots for Crit hit rate. Speeds things up significantly for hunting and farming.

A note for Gridanians, our Choker beats Electrum +1 so get that instead of the Attack Necklace, especially if you're working for enough GC set items for your Spear, or you're just looking to get some extra stats without spending extra gil. Possibly the best accessory to come out of our GC set, sadly.

Most of this is inexpesnive and I've got the full of it. You won't cap STR without a meld on your weapon in this set up, but if you get decent melds (Double Fours on both) You'll get within food range of capping either in your optimum stat builds.

Be sure to parse your accuracy when making gear adjustments, however. The accuracy requirements for events can vary wildly and you will hurt yourself with an over-emphasis on accuracy when your stats are not capped otherwise, and vice versa when you're undershooting accuracy on high evasion targets.

What I use:

Paragon's Helm
Tortoiseshell Scale Mail with +36PIE (xx + yy, yy is the base piety stat on the piece, its a III IV double meld lol)
Felt Bracers +36 STR (STR IV, STR IV)
Veteran's Field Belt
Drachen Trousers
Drachen Feet
Tourmaline Bracelets
Rubellite Ring +1 x2

Puts me at 351 STR, 305 PIE. Right now I have Militia Caligae instead so 348 STR 305 PIE. One piece of DL (Caligae) would cap me, swapping the tourmaline bracelet for a rubellite.

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Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss

I use the following:
Darklight Helm +15 STR
Darklight Corselet +20 STR
Scarlet Sash +3 PTY
Militia Subligar +20 PTY
Darklight Caligae +15 PTY
Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying 3x meld +43 STR
Explorer's Earrings
Electrum Gorget +1
Tourmaline Bracelets +1 +4 PTY
Tourmaline Ring +1 +18 PTY
Rubellite Ring +1 +18 STR

This gives me 351 STR, 305 PTY (312 after Jerked Beef)

This is just one way to hit cap, no matter how you do it you are going to need rare gear or a few 3x meld crafted.

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Almost exactly what I use only difference is

Felt Trousers with +17 STR
Felt Bracers with +46 STR
Cobalt Hauby +1 with +32 PIE
Flame Sergeants Sash with the +10 ACC

Puts me at 354STR/318PIE with no food. Not sure what it is with food yet if were to use Smoked Raptor

I haven't heard anyone say how gear should be set up with Garuda's spear in hand. I have both a stat builder set and a Crit set. Does anyone have hardcore data on which one succeeds?

It's always going to be your base stats as first priority, then after that point it's more of a preference. Difficulty is, reaching your stats cap without Darklight is either going to require triple melds or and/or meld on your weapon. Having things like +1 Darksteel body takes the heat off of that requirement a bit, but building Crit is usually secondary, if not tertiary.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

It's always going to be your base stats as first priority, then after that point it's more of a preference. Difficulty is, reaching your stats cap without Darklight is either going to require triple melds or and/or meld on your weapon. Having things like +1 Darksteel body takes the heat off of that requirement a bit, but building Crit is usually secondary, if not tertiary.

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Would like hard data however, because people have told me otherwise also.

The only data that's not already been gathered. Is the full effect of crit testing on full on damage on set up.

The issue, however, is that Critical damage's gear pool conflicts directly with our strongest Piety slot. So the debate here is the differing values on your total damage between Critical Attack Potency and Piety. At this point, Garuda's should be irrelevant to the topic unless you're beneath the crit floor.

If you'd like to do a comparison yourself, I can help you there.

BG Parser is the common tool used with level 52 Sphere Doblins as the target refrence.

Do keep in mind that higher than level 52 will be subject to a critical hit rate level correction so that will play against your researched numbers.

Here's a link to the old data we have on it. It's pretty thorough.

The exact difference on stats, so far by my research, hasn't been fully extrapolated. I'll be doing testing once I manage to get LT status (sanction gear for Gridania has a nice Crit attack body I can just swap out for damage testing.) But until that point my hands are tied. It's just cost prohibitive for me to grab a melded Crit Body.

I've actually been using the Gate Guard, but Doblyns sound a lot better for quick testing; where are they :D

My aplogies, Sphere Doblyns are the level 58 camp for group testing, getting my camps mixed up.

http://mooglebox.com/blackshroud/ind...filter=level41

There are two low-fifties camps far off on different sides of Black Shoud. One is the Shirkers (shooms) at 3.75,36, on the bottom floor.

The others are the Efts at 43.75,44.

Be aware that both camps are more dangerous testing zones, but you'll get more targets in quicker succession. They will also give you a better average range to include impact of level correction.

Bring a friend though, those crows can be nasty and they're not particularly safe camps to get to.

Hrm. The guards are always 52 though, so I'll probably stick with those for more consistent testing.

You can actually cap with a single PIE meld Darksteel Haub+1, and using DL eyepatch too. I believe the setup is:

DL Eye
DS Haub+1 with PIE meld
Militia Sub or double PIE Kecks
Triple STR gloves
DL Caligae

I forget the jewelry, but i think it's all STR. And i don't have the numbers this nets you off the top of my head, but i'm pretty sure it gets you to caps and it's the set i am going for. It's arguably better than using a STR head or the crown.

Actually, if you are using Ifrit's, I don't think you need any melds to hit caps, since they're lowered. 350/310 moved to Garudas ;)

Can't confirm that. I noticed a marked difference dropping from a STR melded Hart+1 to a Crit Attack Hart +1 and the stat cap on Hart is supposedly lower than Ifrits. If there is a lower Stat Cap on Ifrit's, it's not by much.

Also keep in mind it is possible to hit Piety cap with just double melded gear if you are using melds on your weapon. I'm at 350/305 after food with nothing but double melds and a single STR meld on my Giantsgall spear, and the melds on my bracers are IIIs not IVs. If I upgraded to IVs and switched to a Darksteel +1 Double Meld I'd likely be able to maintain my stats without the meld on my Spear, but it would require high IVs on both Body and Hands. Or alternatively I could just go Piety/STR on my spear and be done with it.

Given the bomb that was dropped about gear stats having less of an impact in 2.0, I'm in a holding pattern for gear development. Probably going to go for my GC staff and pieces just for the fun of it and hold off there.

Based on research a friend of mine has done, the Ifrit caps are significantly lower, as in more than 20pts on strength and more than 15 on piety. The STR you had on the Hart may have put you below the stat cap on the hart. Also; if you are at cap, STR still works in a 3:2 ratio with attack power, so instead of ~.8 per point, it drops to like ~.35, so that needs to be factored in as well ^^ Its all very annoying, but hey, stat melds are changing in 2.0; go attack power! :D

That's probably the case.

I'm using a Giantgall now so I'm not entirely sure where the caps balance out there - but I always try to maintain around 350/310 (though currently still at 305 piety)

Ideally I want to do away with the Strength Meteria on my weapon and switch to other stats on Giantsgall like attack or Critical Attack. Though the process of doing so is cost prohibitive - more profitable for me to maintain where I am and work up crafting/gathering jobs so I can build my own gear sets and make a profit off the attempts.

Let's just say this; I switched form Sergeant Spear and 350/310 to an Ifrit's Harpoon, where I'm currently at like 334/302, and am dong more damage because the switch allowed for more crit power/attack power. :)

Hmm. I'll have to play around with my build then, see if I can't squeeze around some higher numbers. If what you say is true then Giantsgall has an even lower stat cap than Ifrits, which means I should be able to completely bypass my need for extra strength to make up for the weapon meld.

Problem is, something like that is a risky venture to take without a massive income to either have multiple weapons or throw away meteria on, just to test. Giantsgall hasn't dropped in price value yet.

Once it does I should be able to do a fair comparison. Two Giantsgalls with different melds on them.