Please limit how many of this tower can be placed. This is obnoxious

I'm going to let this image speak for itself, these neighbors have put up all kinds of obnoxious outside decor, but this is just a perfect example of why this tower should be limited to where you can only place 1 of them outside. I can't see the ocean, or the lighthouse. The two main reasons for the plot we got in Shirogane.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...40f8b2386fa1a&

As much as it's crappy, their house their decorations.

They are a house owner just like you are and have the right to put whichever decorations they see fit, so no that's a no from me.

I agree that it's a very crappy move though, I already dealt with this in the past. All you can do is ask them nicely, if they don't want to and it ruins the plot for you it might be better to move somewhere else sadly

Please YoshiP PLEASE!
The people YEARN for HOAs!

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Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka

I'm going to let this image speak for itself, these neighbors have put up all kinds of obnoxious outside decor, but this is just a perfect example of why this tower should be limited to where you can only place 1 of them outside. I can't see the ocean, or the lighthouse. The two main reasons for the plot we got in Shirogane.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...40f8b2386fa1a&

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Maybe talk to them. Our FC talked to a neighbor about bad decoration before, and they were more than happy to change it. If you are polite about it, I'm sure you can reach an understanding.

Yeah maybe ask if they’d be willing to move the ones on the right, because you’d love to be able to see the lighthouse.

Mao sad. The way towers beings placed is givings Mao bad vibes that thems put there to deliberately mess with peoples view. If this true, Mao thinkings World is sad place when peoples go out of thems way to mess with others.

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Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka

I'm going to let this image speak for itself, these neighbors have put up all kinds of obnoxious outside decor, but this is just a perfect example of why this tower should be limited to where you can only place 1 of them outside. I can't see the ocean, or the lighthouse. The two main reasons for the plot we got in Shirogane.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...40f8b2386fa1a&

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You're whining about the mini HoH's when you can clearly see the abomination that is the gingerbread house in that screenshot????

HoH isn't as bad as HoA.

With respect, based on the image you selected to make your case, only one of those towers is blocking anything: the right-most one, which does block the view of the light house. Because of that, limiting HoH to 1 wouldn't prevent this situation. The ocean view is being blocked by houses and trees, not the rest of the towers (which are only blocking your view of the clouds).

Technically it could be trolling, but it seems more likely to me that the owner of this house just has aesthetic sensibilities that differ from yours. Having a bunch of towers is weird, and Final Fantasy is full of people who love to be weird. Additionally, HoH is a great piece of scaffolding that allows players to climb up to high places if they know how to do it right, so it's not uncommon to see homes that have 4+ HoH's in their yard.

Regardless, I would recommend making the choice to not be bothered by others' landscaping decisions; instead, be happy that other players have found a diversity of ways to enjoy the game in their own way.

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Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka

I'm going to let this image speak for itself, these neighbors have put up all kinds of obnoxious outside decor, but this is just a perfect example of why this tower should be limited to where you can only place 1 of them outside. I can't see the ocean, or the lighthouse. The two main reasons for the plot we got in Shirogane.

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Posts like this always encourage me to investigate.

Your view from ground level was never going to be what you imply even if the towers weren't placed on your neighbor's plot. The medium house on the other side of your neighbor along with others in the ward still would have blocked your view.

The good news is that it is very easy to get roof access with the bathhouse skin. I have a medium myself and used the bathhouse skin for a while so had set up the roof access for myself. That would give you and your FC members a superior view regardless of what your neighbors chose to do.

A final aside - your FC name seems to be very fitting for you.

Reminds me of one of my old neighbors flipping out at me because I gave one of the small owners a bunch of lakeland flower gardens and so they ended up surrounded by purple yard houses.

You can't control how your neighbors decorate as long as they are glitching decorations into the street or whatever.

Would you like to speak to a manager about this?

The ginger bread house might stand out from the crowd, but it's not obnoxiously blocking the view of the lighthouse, or the island on the horizon. The plot I picked, we were already here before these people moved in, well before actually. The view was quite good until then. The only attitude problem I see is the person that would completely remove an item from the game. That's not what I'm asking for here. I'm asking for it to be limited, to one per property, so that toxic uses of it like this cannot be done anymore. If they were only able to place one instead of fifteen of them, they'd have a heck of a hard time pulling this stunt. My request still stands. I've more than valid enough reason to make said request. We have a medium. I can't just whip another 19 million gil out of thin air, and medium plots are far more limited in number. I'm not going to downgrade our FC to a small just to get away from this. You must honestly believe money grows on trees to make a statement like "if you are not happy, time to move."

At least they're not Namazu Effigies. I once had a neighbour with 8 in their yard and all I could hear was loud creaking when I was outside. If anything needs a limit, it's those things.

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Originally Posted by Espon

At least they're not Namazu Effigies. I once had a neighbour with 8 in their yard and all I could hear was loud creaking when I was outside. If anything needs a limit, it's those things.

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I think that must be done on every item that makes "noises" not only Namazu Effigies.

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Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame

I think that must be done on every item that makes "noises" not only Namazu Effigies.

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Makes you wonder though how they actually decide what things they’re going to limit “one per estate.” Like the Starlight trees, for example, or indoor things like the Hades trophy… but 10 Namazu Effigies? Nah those are fine! lol

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Makes you wonder though how they actually decide what things they’re going to limit “one per estate.” Like the Starlight trees, for example, or indoor things like the Hades trophy… but 10 Namazu Effigies? Nah those are fine! lol

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Id rather not have the creativity limited because some people dont like others housing placement. If they were to target something it would have to be housing add-ons itself, rather then individually target the symptom, they'd go straight for the root cause.

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Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka

I'm going to let this image speak for itself, these neighbors have put up all kinds of obnoxious outside decor, but this is just a perfect example of why this tower should be limited to where you can only place 1 of them outside. I can't see the ocean, or the lighthouse. The two main reasons for the plot we got in Shirogane.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...40f8b2386fa1a&

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if I could I would throw a choco carriage on cinder blocks if I could because you speak as if you’re complaining to an hoa

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Makes you wonder though how they actually decide what things they’re going to limit “one per estate.” Like the Starlight trees, for example, or indoor things like the Hades trophy… but 10 Namazu Effigies? Nah those are fine! lol

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Most of the one per estate items are trial/raid trophies or items that have a function outside of housing (Summoning Bell and the like).

It's the noise of the Effigies that's the problem and the advantage to getting a plot that's a bit more isolated from its neighbors. If my neighbor wants to decorate with them, that's their business just as how I decorate my own yard is my business. If I'm allowed to dictate what they can or can't use, then they would have the same right to do the same with me. I'm good as long as I don't have to hear the noise.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

if I could I would throw a choco carriage on cinder blocks if I could because you speak as if you’re complaining to an hoa

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More acting like they run a HOA. She didn't even take that screenshot from her plot. Here's a screenshot from her plot:

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...9ac4c4d55d.png

Note that the reason I'm standing on her fence is because if I was standing on the ground in the plot, I wouldn't be able to see the "offending" house thanks to the fence (she's using the bathhouse skin).

If she wants an unobstructed view of the ocean and lighthouse, all she needs to do is create roof access and sit up on the roof. The view would be far superior than any she'd be able to get from that rock even if the rest of the ward was empty.

We live directly across from the plot in question and I feel that if anyone has the right to be annoyed by them, it would be us. On the contrary, we don't! As stated above, they are fun loving and immeasurably goofy. Nothing is ever done in the name of being toxic. Honestly, having someone come down and stand in the street and do "fume" and "furious" over and over and over is far more obnoxious. Or better yet, when the OP comes into our yard to complain loudly about our neighbors to us before heavily hinting some of us should be their guinea pigs so they can flex in regular content. Had a good laugh at that one.

OP has told others in the Ward they hope the offenders get banned, have threatened the house in question with reporting them to a GM, etc etc. It's all rather silly and a rather stupid hill to die on. As someone already showed, that hill is not, in fact, owned by OP. They would not be able to see that lighthouse- I'm sorry, have you seen a real one? Faaaar better than some video game facsimile- from their property. When suggested they could stand on their roof to get a better view, they replied saying they shouldn't have to.

Our Ward is full of active FCs. It's quite a fun place to live and a great place to hang out. OP, however, has soured things considerably with how vocal they are. Shout chat hasn't been free of their ranting, either. I recall one occasion where OP peered down over the hill on a previous iteration of the house in question and saying something along the lines of "Thank god their house looks normal for once" in shout. Like... who made you the HoA?

I'm glad to read what the people around that plot had to say, that's what I expected from OP tbh they seemed obsessed with it and it was weird.

How are you gonna take a plot all the way in the back and complain you cant see the beach ? lol, it's hilarious to me

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Originally Posted by Nyxen

Our Ward is full of active FCs. It's quite a fun place to live and a great place to hang out. OP, however, has soured things considerably with how vocal they are. Shout chat hasn't been free of their ranting, either. I recall one occasion where OP peered down over the hill on a previous iteration of the house in question and saying something along the lines of "Thank god their house looks normal for once" in shout. Like... who made you the HoA?

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Put the OP on ignore. Suggest to everyone else in the ward likewise bothered to put the OP on ignore. Then they can rant to their heart's content without disturbing any of you.

I wish I had this sort of drama in my ward

Thanks for the compliment, I'll own this toxicity with pride since that's what you think it is. The only attitude adjustment that's needed here is discplinary action on our neighbors who have openly defied the terms of service. I made a reasonable request. I was given nothing but jokes and other nonsense, instead of a "how are these blocking your view?" or an "are you serious?" before assuming toxicity. The point of the post is that they are floating multiple towers with the help of a plugin or an exploit, and deliberately affecting the views of more than one neighbor in the ward. I may be the only one in the ward who's vocally upset about it since I don't have a better view to look at in real life. Sure, I don't pay their sub. But, they are required to comply with the terms of service, which strictly prohibits the use of plugins and mods. The same plot in another Shirogane ward is not going to magically appear out of thin air for my FC to bid on. Contrary to popular belief, gil does not grow on trees.

Those towers were literally floating in thin air. They have recently changed the decor again, but deliberately left a tower blocking the view of the lighthouse. They could have just shown some restraint with their decor, avoiding this in the first place. Instead, they chose to try and help President Trump continue his border wall into the world of Eorzea. I even waited a few days before asking because of how frequently they've been changing their decor. It is sad that it has come to this. For now, I hope and pray that a dev/GM gets involved to do something about it. It's not fair to those of us that comply with the terms of service when putting out our decor. While it would be less disruptive for them to have the towers on the ground as intended by the devs it would still be an eyesore, albeit a far more tolerable one. The towers would not be blocking anything if they had just put them on the ground instead of floating them. The point that too many is an eyesore still stands, even if it is not as important as the fact that they have definitely broken the terms of service.

Asking for an outside decor of that size to be limited to 1 per estate is not unreasonable. It's asking for common sense from Square Enix. Most players who have a house at least show public decency, even if they break ToS to place their housing items. Unfortunate that not all share that same trait. Even more unfortunate that they have decided to make themselves a special case.

Contrary to YOUR belief, the sea on the horizon, and the lighthouse, could both be seen from just outside our plot, before the towers were put up. A shore plot is not required as long as our neighbors comply with the terms of service set by Square Enix when placing their outside furniture.

Provocative comments don't help the situation. If drudging up more drama out of this is what you want, then go share it on social media. I don't care. Square Enix asks us to post our feedback here in the forums. I'm simply doing my part.

The only one breaking terms of service is the house that had towers floating half a house above their fence line. If you can't say something constructive to add to the conversation, you can leave the forum post alone. It's people like most of those who have replied here that think they weren't in the wrong to begin with who create the problems within the FFXIV community, which how SE ever won an award for best community is beyond me, cause I've seen nothing but toxicity here, and elsewhere throughout the game. Perhaps if I wasn't constantly bombarded with toxicity without a break from it, I would have been more polite when asking, but I was polite enough to say please. Accept it as not toxic and move on, or accept that they should not have floated their towers to block half of the view from their neighbors. Like I said, I may have been the only one to confront them about it, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the choice of decor alone just shows that they have no regard for others when they do anything in the game. Only a moron would be oblivious to the facts I've presented here and see toxicity where none exists. I simply want SE to see what not limiting the tower to 1 per estate has allowed into their game and how people like myself who do respect their neighbors when choosing their outdoor decor can come to view this as a toxic use of the item. If that's not a problem for you, then why are you here?

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--words-- I've seen nothing but toxicity here --words-- but I was polite enough to say please. --words-- Only a moron would be oblivious --words--

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So if I told someone to "Please, shut up.", it's not rude because I said please. Gotcha.

I dont see how thats ok but other items are limited for whatever reasons lol

Also do whatever you want but if you plan doing stuff like that, grab an plot on the sides ffs...

Your idea of toxicity is baffling. Personally, I find the way you run up to those who you feel wronged you and /slapping them before running away is pretty toxic, but what do I know.

To be frank, we didn't even know you existed until you decided to have a meltdown. And the idea that people should consider others when they design their properties is utterly ridiculous. I'm not a fan of some of the house designs, but I'm not going to obsess over a neighbor who uses it, or whatever else they put on their plot. At the end of the day, I'm not paying their subs and I have no right to expect them to change something just because I don't like it.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

If you target somebody that uses add-ons to manipulate the X and y-axis anybody with b d t h would it be eating the banham. It's a great area that the intentionally turned a blind eye to request like this simply is bringing attention to where players don't want the attention being drawn to inadvertently

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can someone translate this? I'm too tired...

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Originally Posted by AzhreiVahlok

can someone translate this? I'm too tired...

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3rd party waaah

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Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka

Instead, they chose to try and help President Trump continue his border wall into the world of Eorzea.

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I love this thread so much

Stopped by and took a peak around. Got a really warm welcome from the FC in question. Entire neighborhood has shown an outpouring of support for them. Lovely people. Dear reader, you should check it out if you have the time.

I don't typically agree with Stormy but girl, get a clue. Look around your neighborhood. You've been harassing good people to the extent that you've got an entire ward throwing up towers, effigies, and gingerbread houses in protest. You run around slapping people and you lurk in their yards. Why? Is the view of the sea and lighthouse so important to you that you would tarnish your own reputation and that of your FC to such an extreme extent? That you'd go so far out of your way to ruin the experience of others?

When I visited I saw a beachside medium up for sale in Shiro, why not attempt the transfer?

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I don't typically agree with Stormy but girl, get a clue. Look around your neighborhood. You've been harassing good people to the extent that you've got an entire ward throwing up towers, effigies, and gingerbread houses in protest. You run around slapping people and you lurk in their yards. Why? Is the view of the sea and lighthouse so important to you that you would tarnish your own reputation and that of your FC to such an extreme extent? That you'd go so far out of your way to ruin the experience of others?

When I visited I saw a beachside medium up for sale in Shiro, why not attempt the transfer?

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Assuming my gender and affiliations is judgmental, don't ya think? And I already said multiple times that moving requires gil I don't have. I can't just pull 18 milliong gil off a tree somewhere to go buy a different medium plot, and the view is far better without the towers floating so far above the ground that the use of 3rd party tools to get it there is obvious. Since it seems to have escaped everyone's minds, allow me to reiterate what the post is about, and how disrespectful it was to everyone in the ward for them to build a wall of towers to ensure nobody can see anything past their house, as well as just how high their towers are floating above the ground.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...901&height=676

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Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka

Assuming my gender and affiliations is judgmental, don't ya think? And I already said multiple times that moving requires gil I don't have. I can't just pull 18 milliong gil off a tree somewhere to go buy a different medium plot, and the view is far better without the towers floating so far above the ground that the use of 3rd party tools to get it there is obvious. Since it seems to have escaped everyone's minds, allow me to reiterate what the post is about, and how disrespectful it was to everyone in the ward for them to build a wall of towers to ensure nobody can see anything past their house, as well as just how high their towers are floating above the ground.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...901&height=676

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Wow, I really got "Did you just assume my gendered."

Listen, I'm happy to use any pronouns you would like me to, I was just going off of how you've presented your lala. You speak as though you're speaking for the neighborhood but the neighborhood has made their position very clear. Your behavior is doing an order of magnitude more damage to the neighborhood than any nunber of towers would be able to, and you haven't addressed the way you're treating people at all.

The neighborhood can have whatever position they want to have, doesn't change how disrespectful it was to put the towers up like that. How corrupt and fallen society has become if that isn't considered to be disrespectful to everyone. If you really think it toxic of me to bring negative feedback about the game into the forums, then why don't you bring it to your drama lords on Twitch and make sure it comes to the forefront of the community? It's no wonder that videos exist about negative feedback being bullied away and Square Enix taking forever to address problems, because anytime negative feedback about the game is brought forward, this is the response it gets. Guess I should just go back to being part of the silent majority again.

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The neighborhood can have whatever position they want to have, doesn't change how disrespectful it was to put the towers up like that. How corrupt and fallen society has become if that isn't considered to be disrespectful to everyone. If you really think it toxic of me to bring negative feedback about the game into the forums, then why don't you bring it to your drama lords on Twitch and make sure it comes to the forefront of the community? It's no wonder that videos exist about negative feedback being bullied away and Square Enix taking forever to address problems, because anytime negative feedback about the game is brought forward, this is the response it gets. Guess I should just go back to being part of the silent majority again.

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Delulu. You're still omitting the way you've been treating your neighbors from your little narrative. Where's this importance on respecting others there?

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The neighborhood can have whatever position they want to have, doesn't change how disrespectful it was to put the towers up like that. How corrupt and fallen society has become if that isn't considered to be disrespectful to everyone. If you really think it toxic of me to bring negative feedback about the game into the forums, then why don't you bring it to your drama lords on Twitch and make sure it comes to the forefront of the community? It's no wonder that videos exist about negative feedback being bullied away and Square Enix taking forever to address problems, because anytime negative feedback about the game is brought forward, this is the response it gets. Guess I should just go back to being part of the silent majority again.

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So if I didn't like your house style, can I call it disrespectful if you don't change it? It's their plot. They can do whatever they want. Do you have the right to express your displeasure? Absolutely. Does that mean they have to make changes? Not at all.

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Originally Posted by Impia

Delulu. You're still omitting the way you've been treating your neighbors from your little narrative. Where's this importance on respecting others there?

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I'm not omitting anything. That's a lot of fantasy nonsense you all have managed to pull out of thin air over this. I respectfully requested for my view to stop being blocked. That, as apparent with all negative feedback in this game, was met with a "you're joking right?" and an "I actually thought you were joking about that." and a "Can't you just go elsewhere?" If my request had been taken seriously and just respectfully declined, we might not be here. I may have called the towers obnoxious, but I did not ask for the towers to be removed. I only asked for them to stop blocking my view with them. If they could only place 1 tower in their yard to begin with, it would be very difficult to block as much of the view as they did, because there aren't many items that come anywhere close to the height of the HoH tower. But since it is so hard for people to see that there would be a visual difference, here's what it would look like if the towers were at least on the ground where they WOULD be if 3rd party tools were not used to float them high above the fence line:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...a633425666cc0&

I should not have to go to a different ward for this view. I am glad that I have that option, but it takes a couple extra minutes compared to just teleporting to my FC house and being there in mere seconds. My only legitimate gripe about the FC who owns the house of towers is that they have robbed me of convenience. At this point, I could also say that they've gotten most of the people here to bully me over this, which has made me lose any respect I still had for them. But my gripe in the original post is aimed at Square Enix, not the FC that put the towers up, so stop trying to drudge up more drama than there really is.