Mentor Roulette bugged?

I've done some poking around, and haven't found another thread on it, so I thought I'd make my own.

Recently started ticking all the Mentor boxes, hoping to give back to the community a bit. I attained Mentor status. I check the wikis for a comprehensive list of duties needing to be fulfilled, and I can confirm, quintuple-checked, I've cleared the following duties:

• Every single dungeon in the game
• Every single Trial in the game
• Every single Extreme Trial (ARR-Shb)
• Every single Full Party- and Alliance Raid
• Every single Guildhest

By all accounts I can find, Mentor Roulette should be popping up in my Duty list, but it just doesn't. It's not even just there with a lock on it, listing duties I'm missing or an ilvl target like other duties. It's simply not even in the list.

Again, I've cross-referenced my duty list many times over by now, all prereqs are cleared.

Is this a bug? Have I misunderstood something about the system? I'm tearing my hair out on this one.

I think I remember seeing a known issues lodestone post about mentor roulette not showing in the list once you have unlocked mentor but before you cleared all duties required.
Have you cleared praetorium and porta decumana after they were reworked?

Yeah I've heard similar things through the grapevine but I can't seem to find an answer to if it's a bug or not.

I've done all the MSQ Roulette reworked duties.
I have also gone through my entire duty list making sure everything's got that little green checkmark (not to mention the painstaking cross-referencing with the wikis to make sure I'm not missing some optional duty).

And yeah I can confirm I certified my Mentor status before I cleared all roulette pre-reqs.
I doubt it matters but what I was missing after becoming a mentor was

• The Great Hunt (Extreme)
• The Jade Stoa (Extreme)
• Memoria Misera (Extreme)
• The Seat of Sacrifice (Extreme)

All of which have since been cleared.

I see. I have found the lodestone post in question: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...66cd728a04c4c8
I dont have any other ideas about obscure duties missing (I assume you have done the new patch content) but hopefully 6.51 will unhide it again. Then you should be able to see which duty it is.

edit: I have one more angle shoot. Is your ilvl high enough on the job you want to queue on? Wiki says 625 minimum.

Ah I see, I appreciate the insight.

Yeah no new duties that are not yet cleared, and I'm sitting at a comfortable 654ilvl (I've tried reloading the window while having the appropriate job equipped etc. All venues feel explored. At this point my only hope really is 6.51

Just to be clear: You have combat mentor status right? Not just crafting mentor? Crafting mentors aren't allowed into DR:Mentor.

If you have combat mentor status and everything in your DF is green checkmarked then there must be something you haven't unlocked.

Here is the entire list of DR:Mentor duties as of EW patch 6.5 (missable content bold orange, commonly missed content bold ***red):

• Dungeons
  • A Realm Reborn
    • Sastasha
    • The Tam-Tara Deepcroft
    • Copperbell Mines
    • Halatali
    • The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak
    • Haukke Manor
    • Brayflox's Longstop
    • The Sunken Temple of Qarn
    • Cutter's Cry
    • The Stone Vigil
    • Dzemael Darkhold
    • The Aurum Vale
    • The Wanderer's Palace
    • Castrum Meridianum
    • The Praetorium
    • Amdapor Keep
    • Pharos Sirius
    • Copperbell Mines (Hard)
    • Haukke Manor (Hard)
    • The Lost City of Amdapor
    • Halatali (Hard)
    • Brayflox's Longstop (Hard)
    • Hullbreaker Isle
    • The Tam-Tara Deepcroft (Hard)
    • The Stone Vigil (Hard)
    • Snowcloak
    • Sastasha (Hard)
    • The Sunken Temple of Qarn (Hard)
    • The Keeper of the Lake
    • The Wanderer's Palace (Hard)
    • Amdapor Keep (Hard)
  • Heavensward
    • The Dusk Vigil
    • Sohm Al
    • The Aery
    • The Vault
    • The Great Gubal Library
    • The Aetherochemical Research Facility
    • Neverreap
    • The Fractal Continuum
    • Saint Mocianne's Arboretum
    • Pharos Sirius (Hard)
    • The Antitower
    • The Lost City of Amdapor (Hard)
    • Sohr Khai
    • Hullbreaker Isle (Hard)
    • Xelphatol
    • The Great Gubal Library (Hard)
    • Baelsar's Wall
    • Sohm Al (Hard)
  • Stormblood
    • The Sirensong Sea
    • Shisui of the Violet Tides
    • Bardam's Mettle
    • Doma Castle
    • Castrum Abania
    • Ala Mhigo
    • Kugane Castle
    • The Temple of the Fist
    • The Drowned City of Skalla
    • Hells' Lid
    • The Fractal Continuum (Hard)
    • The Swallow's Compass
    • The Burn
    • Saint Mocianne's Arboretum (Hard)
    • The Ghimlyt Dark
  • Shadowbringers
    • Holminster Switch
    • Dohn Mheg
    • The Qitana Ravel
    • Malikah's Well
    • Mt. Gulg
    • Amaurot
    • The Twinning
    • Akadaemia Anyder
    • The Grand Cosmos
    • The Heroes' Gauntlet
    • Matoya's Relict
    • Paglth'an
  • Endwalker
    • The Tower of Zot
    • The Tower of Babil
    • Vanaspati
    • Ktisis Hyperboreia
    • The Aitiascope
    • The Dead Ends
    • Smileton
    • The Stigma Dreamscape
    • Alzadaal's Legacy
    • The Fell Court of Troia
    • Lapis Manalis
    • The Aetherfont
    • The Lunar Subterrane
• Guildhests
  • If Solemn Trinity is complete they all are
• Trials
  • A Realm Reborn
    • ARR Trials
      • The Bowl of Embers
      • The Navel
      • The Howling Eye
      • The Porta Decumana
      • The Chrysalis
      • ***A Relic Reborn: the Chimera
      • ***A Relic Reborn: the Hydra
      • ***Battle on the Big Bridge
      • ***The Dragon's Neck
      • ***Battle in the Big Keep
      • The Bowl of Embers (Hard)
      • The Howling Eye (Hard)
      • The Navel (Hard)
      • Thornmarch (Hard)
      • The Whorleater (Hard)
      • The Striking Tree (Hard)
      • The Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Hard)
      • ***Urth's Fount
    • ARR High-End Trials
      • The Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima's Bane
      • The Howling Eye (Extreme)
      • The Navel (Extreme)
      • The Bowl of Embers (Extreme)
      • Thornmarch (Extreme)
      • The Whorleater (Extreme)
      • The Striking Tree (Extreme)
      • The Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Extreme)
  • Heavensward
    • HW Trials
      • Thok ast Thok (Hard)
      • The Limitless Blue (Hard)
      • The Singularity Reactor
      • The Final Steps of Faith
      • Containment Bay S1T7
      • Containment Bay P1T6
      • Containment Bay Z1T9
    • HW High-End Trials
      • The Limitless Blue (Extreme)
      • Thok ast Thok (Extreme)
      • The Minstrel's Ballad: Thordan's Reign
      • The Minstrel's Ballad: Nidhogg's Rage
      • Containment Bay S1T7 (Extreme)
      • Containment Bay P1T6 (Extreme)
      • Containment Bay Z1T9 (Extreme)
  • Stormblood
    • SB Trials
      • The Pool of Tribute
      • Emanation
      • The Royal Menagerie
      • Castrum Fluminis
      • ***Kugane Ohashi
      • The Great Hunt
      • The Jade Stoa
      • Hells' Kier
      • The Wreath of Snakes
    • SB High-End Trials
      • The Pool of Tribute (Extreme)
      • Emanation (Extreme)
      • The Minstrel's Ballad: Shinryu's Domain
      • The Minstrel's Ballad: Tsukuyomi's Pain
      • The Great Hunt (Extreme)
      • The Jade Stoa (Extreme)
      • Hells' Kier (Extreme)
      • The Wreath of Snakes (Extreme)
  • Shadowbringers
    • ShB Trials
      • The Dancing Plague
      • The Crown of the Immaculate
      • The Dying Gasp
      • Cinder Drift
      • The Seat of Sacrifice
      • Castrum Marinum
      • The Cloud Deck
    • ShB High-End Trials
      • The Dancing Plague (Extreme)
      • The Crown of the Immaculate (Extreme)
      • The Minstrel's Ballad: Hades's Elegy
      • Cinder Drift (Extreme)
      • ***Memoria Misera (Extreme)
      • The Seat of Sacrifice (Extreme)
      • Castrum Marinum (Extreme)
      • The Cloud Deck (Extreme)
  • Endwalker
    • The Dark Inside
    • The Mothercrystal
    • The Final Day
    • Storm's Crown
    • Mount Ordeals
    • The Voidcast Dais
    • The Abyssal Fracture
• Raids
  • A Realm Reborn
    • ARR Alliance Raids
      • The Labyrinth of the Ancients
      • Syrcus Tower
      • The World of Darkness
  • Heavensward
    • HW Alliance Raids
      • The Void Ark
      • The Weeping City of Mhach
      • Dun Scaith
    • HW Normal Raids
      • Alexander - The Fist of the Father
      • Alexander - The Cuff of the Father
      • Alexander - The Arm of the Father
      • Alexander - The Burden of the Father
      • Alexander - The Fist of the Son
      • Alexander - The Cuff of the Son
      • Alexander - The Arm of the Son
      • Alexander - The Burden of the Son
      • Alexander - The Eyes of the Creator
      • Alexander - The Breath of the Creator
      • Alexander - The Heart of the Creator
      • Alexander - The Soul of the Creator
  • Stormblood
    • SB Alliance Raids
      • The Royal City of Rabanastre
      • The Ridorana Lighthouse
      • The Orbonnne Monastery
    • SB Normal Raids
      • Deltascape V1.0
      • Deltascape V2.0
      • Deltascape V3.0
      • Deltascape V4.0
      • Sigmascape V1.0
      • Sigmascape V2.0
      • Sigmascape V3.0
      • Sigmascape V4.0
      • Alphascape V1.0
      • Alphascape V2.0
      • Alphascape V3.0
      • Alphascape V4.0
  • Shadowbringers
    • ShB Alliance Raids
      • The Copied Factory
      • The Puppets' Bunker
      • The Tower at Paradigm's Breach
    • ShB Normal Raids
      • Eden's Gate: Resurrection
      • Eden's Gate: Descent
      • Eden's Gate: Inundation
      • Eden's Gate: Sepulture
      • Eden's Verse: Fulmination
      • Eden's Verse: Furor
      • Eden's Verse: Iconoclasm
      • Eden's Verse: Refulgence
      • Eden's Promise: Umbra
      • Eden's Promise: Litany
      • Eden's Promise: Anamorphosis
      • Eden's Promise: Eternity
  • Endwalker
    • EW Alliance Raids
      • Aglaia
      • Euphrosyne
      • Thaleia
    • EW Normal Raids
      • Asphodelos: The First Circle
      • Asphodelos: The Second Circle
      • Asphodelos: The Third Circle
      • Asphodelos: The Fourth Circle
      • Abyssos: The Fifth Circle
      • Abyssos: The Sixth Circle
      • Abyssos: The Seventh Circle
      • Abyssos: The Eighth Circle
      • Anabaseios: The Ninth Circle
      • Anabaseios: The Tenth Circle
      • Anabaseios: The Eleventh Circle
      • Anabaseios: The Twelfth Circle

Barring any mistakes in my transcription that should be everything in the order it's listed in DF so it's easier to see where a duty is missing.

Normally, when you have battle mentor status on a character, the roulette would still show up in your duties list but you would be locked out if you didn’t meet all the conditions (like missing an ex or iLvl) and it would tell you which ones(s) specifically.

Edit: looking at your character sheet on the Lodestone shows that you have not completed the “More than Fear” achievement (range -magical dps job quest) . So, it looks like you do not have battle mentor status yet. Complete that achievement and go talk to the Smith.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/More_than_Fear

It’s part of the requirements: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Novice_Network

Try visiting one of the Smiths to make certain you don't need to re-register as a Mentor since it sounds like a little time has passed since you first certified. Whatever glitch is happening might have affected your status as a Mentor in the system.

It sounds like you are missing the mentor status all together and need to obtain it by talking to the Smiths "Big green leaf symbol" should be in the 3 city states., Gridania's is by the inn.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

It sounds like you are missing the mentor status all together and need to obtain it by talking to the Smiths "Big green leaf symbol" should be in the 3 city states., Gridania's is by the inn.

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Before talking to the Smith, OP needs to complete the lvl 90 Magical range dps job quest as already explained.

I... alright so, talking to the Smith, I can confirm I am indeed both Battle and Crafter Mentor. I got that good ol' crown on my name, and have had it for a few days now.
The one thing that I do seem to be missing is that job quest! Good catch! I'll do that and report my findings.

My only question is - is it normal to be able to become a full mentor without having completed those role quests? I just... assumed I'd done them since it's been a while, and it didn't get flagged when I applied for Mentor status, it just gave it to me.

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Originally Posted by Bikupan

I... alright so, talking to the Smith, I can confirm I am indeed both Battle and Crafter Mentor. I got that good ol' crown on my name, and have had it for a few days now.
The one thing that I do seem to be missing is that job quest! Good catch! I'll do that and report my findings.

My only question is - is it normal to be able to become a full mentor without having completed those role quests? I just... assumed I'd done them since it's been a while, and it didn't get flagged when I applied for Mentor status, it just gave it to me.

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You probably became mentor before they added this requirement.

isnt only one dps role quest required?


have you done stuff like guildheists, odin trial, the 4 hildi trials and also the two relic weapon trials?

yupyupyup, all checked. Must've gone over the full duty list 8 times by now

To get mentor status re-certified you only need to get the achievements listed on the wiki page linked to earlier. Once, you’ve completed the one that you’re missing and you’ve talked to the Smith again, the roulette will appear but it may be locked.

If you are missing any dungeon to unlock it, it will then tell you

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

Edit: looking at your character sheet on the Lodestone shows that you have not completed the “More than Fear” achievement (range -magical dps job quest) . So, it looks like you do not have battle mentor status yet. Complete that achievement and go talk to the Smith.

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Any one of the three DD role quests count for mentor status. You don't have to do all three. They did one of the other ones.

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

the roulette will appear but it may be locked.

If you are missing any dungeon to unlock it, it will then tell you

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The roulette is supposed to be visible but locked, with a list of missing duties; but there's a current known issue with patch 6.5 wherein the locked roulette is invisible until they fix it.

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Originally Posted by Bikupan

yupyupyup, all checked. Must've gone over the full duty list 8 times by now

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If you have combat mentor status, then you must be missing an optional duty somewhere. Asari listed the easiest ones to miss. You have the achievements for Odin and a Manderville weapon. Your achievements list says you have not completed any ARR relics, so check again for A Relic Reborn: the Chimera and A Relic Reborn: the Hydra. I'll highlight those in red above so you can easily see their order in the list.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Any one of the three DD role quests count for mentor status. You don't have to do all three. They did one of the other ones.



The roulette is supposed to be visible but locked, with a list of missing duties; but there's a current known issue with patch 6.5 wherein the locked roulette is invisible until they fix it.




If you have combat mentor status, then you must be missing an optional duty somewhere. Asari listed the easiest ones to miss. You have the achievements for Odin and a Manderville weapon. Your achievements list says you have not completed any ARR relics, so check again for A Relic Reborn: the Chimera and A Relic Reborn: the Hydra. I'll highlight those in red above so you can easily see their order in the list.

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Oh my god it's 100% The Hydra. With the new visual bug of not being able to see what Duties you're missing, going up and down the list a hundred times must've made me blind. I just flat out never progressed that far into the ARR Relic chain, so I need to go unlock it first.
You're a lifesaver!

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Originally Posted by Bikupan

With the new visual bug of not being able to see what Duties you're missing, going up and down the list a hundred times must've made me blind.

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It really is a pain in the ass to cross-reference all these different lists without the locked roulette in front of you showing you where the missing ??? duties fall in the list. I'm glad they acknowledged the invisible locked roulette as a bug and not an intentional removal.

I know in the most recent patch my mentor roulette vanished until I completed the new raid, dungeon and trial. In the past it's been visible, just greyed out until I complete it.

Just for reference with the known issue if other mentors are running into it:

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...66cd728a04c4c8

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Duty Roulette: Expert and Duty Roulette: Mentor are not displayed in the Duty Finder when the conditions are not met.

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