Request: Unlock Grand Company Gear so it is usable for all

Hello,

The Grand Company equipment has been a longstanding feature, and since its initial introduction, it hasn't seen much expansion. As a result, there's a plethora of gear unnecessarily tied to your affiliation with a specific Grand Company.

Given the amount of time that has passed since the armor's release could you make items like the Storm Elite's Scale Coat, Flame Lieutenant's Coat, and etc. available for all to use regardless of your Grand Company?

I think that by taking this action, you would revitalize this gear and make it more prevalent in the game, all without changing anything significant in the current state of the game.

Thank you for your time.

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Originally Posted by Morphiana

Hello,

The Grand Company equipment has been a longstanding feature, and since its initial introduction, it hasn't seen much expansion. As a result, there's a plethora of gear unnecessarily tied to your affiliation with a specific Grand Company.

Given the amount of time that has passed since the armor's release could you make items like the Storm Elite's Scale Coat, Flame Lieutenant's Coat, and etc. available for all to use regardless of your Grand Company?

I think that by taking this action, you would revitalize this gear and make it more prevalent in the game, all without changing anything significant in the current state of the game.

Thank you for your time.

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I mean, while that's nice it's a faction thing. Also you could just join each one, rank them and then get the item you want from each

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I mean, while that's nice it's a faction thing. Also you could just join each one, rank them and then get the item you want from each

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But you can't wear or glamour it anymore if you're not in the Grand Company you got it from.

I want to switch to Adders for the gear, but I'm held hostage by the Frontline achievements that say 'Get <X> amount of wins for any of the Grand Companies'. If I have 150 wins for Flames and I switch to Adders it will stop counting wins until I get 150 wins for Adders as well before it goes to 151.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

But you can't wear or glamour it anymore if you're not in the Grand Company you got it from.

I want to switch to Adders for the gear, but I'm held hostage by the Frontline achievements that say 'Get <X> amount of wins for any of the Grand Companies'. If I have 150 wins for Flames and I switch to Adders it will stop counting wins until I get 150 wins for Adders as well before it goes to 151.

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Fashion victim right here.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

Fashion victim right here.

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That's kind of the point of this thread.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

Fashion victim right here.

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I know, right? :(

But seriously, since the Freelancer system was added Grand Companies are pretty much just a cosmetic choice so I either want to be able to use what I've earned (whether that be the GC horse mounts or glamour gear) or the achievements that say 'any of the Grand Companies' to actually mean any of the Grand Companies regardless of where I got the most wins.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

I know, right? :(

But seriously, since the Freelancer system was added Grand Companies are pretty much just a cosmetic choice so I either want to be able to use what I've earned (whether that be the GC horse mounts or glamour gear) or the achievements that say 'any of the Grand Companies' to actually mean any of the Grand Companies regardless of where I got the most wins.

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The "any of the grand companies" does work while in any of them, unless there is a recent bug that prevents that. I've always seen it go up when I switched GCs, but since I'm currently working on the 300 while a member of Flames, I haven't switched GCs in a while(and won't until I get that one done to start working on the next one).

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Originally Posted by Avatre

The "any of the grand companies" does work while in any of them, unless there is a recent bug that prevents that. I've always seen it go up when I switched GCs, but since I'm currently working on the 300 while a member of Flames, I haven't switched GCs in a while(and won't until I get that one done to start working on the next one).

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It definitely didn't for me, I switched to Adders a few months ago and the number stopped going up until I was able to switch back to Flames after the cooldown period was up.

EDIT; But I could be wrong, it may just be the 'Behind Enemy Lines' achievement. Either way I'm stuck where I am until that's done so OPs suggestion would still be much appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

It definitely didn't for me, I switched to Adders a few months ago and the number stopped going up until I was able to switch back to Flames after the cooldown period was up.

EDIT; But I could be wrong, it may just be the 'Behind Enemy Lines' achievement. Either way I'm stuck where I am until that's done so OPs suggestion would still be much appreciated.

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I'm not denying that more glam options would be great, and unlocking the GC gear/mounts would be a step forward, but I also don't think it's likely something that the devs will end up doing because of their usual "identity" excuse for why not to do something like that.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

I'm not denying that more glam options would be great, and unlocking the GC gear/mounts would be a step forward, but I also don't think it's likely something that the devs will end up doing because of their usual "identity" excuse for why not to do something like that.

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Probably, doesn't hurt to ask though :)

And unless they overhaul or add new stuff to the GC systems the identity part of it is kinda dead by now anyway.

If I could request one addition to GC gear, it would be for the Adders Elite gear to get a new DPS headpiece that matches the other two tree-branch crowns. It really got dudded with the green mask instead.

I have the horse mount from The Immortal Flames. I can't use it unless I swap back to the Immortal Flames, but I'm working on getting the one from Limsa's GC. Same for the chocobo minions that you can get, and the barding, even though there's achievements for having all from all GCs.

Kinda weird you can't show off stuff from other GCs, when they've flat out admitted they don't know what they want to do with the GCs.

Plus we kinda saved all their asses, so everyone knows we're technically allied with every big nation/ect, so why not just let us rock what we want from them?

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Originally Posted by Bacent

I have the horse mount from The Immortal Flames. I can't use it unless I swap back to the Immortal Flames, but I'm working on getting the one from Limsa's GC. Same for the chocobo minions that you can get, and the barding, even though there's achievements for having all from all GCs.

Kinda weird you can't show off stuff from other GCs, when they've flat out admitted they don't know what they want to do with the GCs.

Plus we kinda saved all their asses, so everyone knows we're technically allied with every big nation/ect, so why not just let us rock what we want from them?

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I think it more has to do that it's 3 factions. So you rock their colors you a part of them.

You all literally talking about a allied faction scenario that would negate literally all we know about them as current. All to have your cake and eat it too

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I think it more has to do that it's 3 factions. So you rock their colors you a part of them.

You all literally talking about a allied faction scenario that would negate literally all we know about them as current. All to have your cake and eat it too

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Only stuff in the game that's locked behind a '15 day cooldown and 50k gil' to swap GCs, so it's kinda unique in that way in an annoying way.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Only stuff in the game that's locked behind a '15 day cooldown and 50k gil' to swap GCs, so it's kinda unique in that way in an annoying way.

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Doesn't mean you change it. You in Flames rock it proud...don't go all wonky wanting a serpent piece. Kinda odd lol.

Wonder if these people would join a gang irl and rock the colors of another cause they blend well

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Doesn't mean you change it. You in Flames rock it proud...don't go all wonky wanting a serpent piece. Kinda odd lol.

Wonder if these people would join a gang irl and rock the colors of another cause they blend well

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Achievements make feel good chemicals go brrrrrrr

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I mean, while that's nice it's a faction thing. Also you could just join each one, rank them and then get the item you want from each

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They're no longer really separate factions once you reach the 5.5 MSQ. They're all one great big Grand Company of Eorzea.

I don't see a problem with allowing them to be used once purchased regardless of current Grand Company affiliation. If SE wants to put some sort of progress restriction on it, that shouldn't be a problem. They already did similar with the EW artifact gear (have to complete the appropriate role quest to dye the gear).

On GC glam topic...

Since they're re-introducing ARR sets (virtu, prestige, etc)... it would make every sense to re-introduce the GC Elite sets as well, in high resolution and dyeable!

I would personally love the Flame Elite set in a different shade other than the purple which has no matching dyes. This set was the only reason I chose the Immortal Flames lol.

I have a few pieces of allied seal GC gear I'd love to be able to use simultaneously, but restrictions say no. If anything, I'd like to see at least the allied seal gear be lifted of those restrictions, or even get alternate, dyable versions of said gear with no restrictions. Some of those Serpent pieces do look very nice, but on principle I will never join up with Adders.

Even getting allied seal GC gear used to be a pain in the butt until they added the Masked Carnival. Less restrictions on gear that is only utilized as glam is a good thing.

Was about to add on that they should be dyeable.
But was beat to it just a few comments above.

While the best situation would be a Consuming Glamour Tome/Book/Log that effects any dresser you use.(in the sense it consumes the items glamour/item if you no longer need it into the book. The book itself is Unique/Untradeable.)

But on topic.
while I find The Flames have Generally acceptable glamour. the fact you can't have permissions to rep them or use their gear regardless of current Allegiance/PvP is kind of a let down.

Back on to Dyeing the items and no locks.
With The Dual Dye Channels. the Antithesis in color schemes would give so much style to them. Like the Maelstrom LT Coat, is very nice. if I could use it while Flames, or Make it Red and black lines. it would be worth so much.

Yet dye locked just as it is to their GC.

I agree they should be dyeable and open to all factions once earned. If they made faction ranks relevant again I wouldn't suggest it but since the ranks / grand companies have been left unused for so long I think it's time to unlock this gear for all.

Once you earn it/unlock it you should be able to wear it regardless.

Also, unless they changed it (I haven't checked in a while), retainers can't wear the gear either atm because they aren't part of a faction. Both restrictions are pretty annoying.

the uniform restriction is pretty silly the pvp warsteed mount also has this restriction

That kinda defeats the point of letting the player pick it. You're taking away that though minor level of agency from the player. Bad idea all around.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

That kinda defeats the point of letting the player pick it. You're taking away that though minor level of agency from the player. Bad idea all around.

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Why would it take anything away if you'd still have pick one to rep at a time?

I can already ride my Flames horse wearing full Flames armor while still fighting for Maelstrom during a match because the only content where it ever actually mattered forces freelancer anyway so it really doesn't matter who you picked.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

Why would it take anything away if you'd still have pick one to rep at a time?

I can already ride my Flames horse wearing full Flames armor while still fighting for Maelstrom during a match because the only content where it ever actually mattered forces freelancer anyway so it really doesn't matter who you picked.

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I mean, that's already poor game design if you can. It's an irrelevant choice that barely affects things on a surface level. If I had to pick a player choice, that would be it. But it wouldn't be the first time these developers made a stupid choice like what you described.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

I mean, that's already poor game design if you can. It's an irrelevant choice that barely affects things on a surface level. If I had to pick a player choice, that would be it. But it wouldn't be the first time these developers made a stupid choice like what you described.

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It's been a really long time but I think originally you couldn't even play Frontlines with friends who were in other GC's, that was equally terrible. Freelancer used to be optional but eventually they forced it on everyone and it was kind of necessary to ensure Frontline matches kept popping decently fast.
I don't know how it was on other servers but on mine people would all join a specific Grand Company that was rumoured to have better players / better odds of winning, and so queues got longer and longer as the population in the other two GC's dwindled.

You'd still need to make a choice to join one Grand Company at a time to actually progress with them and work towards earning all the rewards, some of the achievements are quite lengthy so you'll be with them for a good while if you want to unlock everything, removing the restrictions just means everything you've earned doesn't get locked away as soon as you join a different GC.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

I mean, that's already poor game design if you can. It's an irrelevant choice that barely affects things on a surface level. If I had to pick a player choice, that would be it. But it wouldn't be the first time these developers made a stupid choice like what you described.

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Not Poor Game Design. Necessary Game Design.

You do realize how bad it is for pvp games with uneven participants on one side of a Military Excersise.

It ain't Balance or truly good.

Hence why it was necessary.

Easy to tell when a player doesn't play PvP Casually enough to tell that clear point of why it is as so.
Or can't put 2 and 2 together without needing to PvP.

So the end result is, Character Story or Choice.
Which matters more some pushing of a mechanical idea where you feel the need to enforce a already archaic idea.

Or create somewhat off topic points for unknown reasons that just adds more merit to the main topic needing no locks in the first place.

Game needs to let players Glamour and Rep as they desire.

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

Not Poor Game Design. Necessary Game Design.

You do realize how bad it is for pvp games with uneven participants on one side of a Military Excersise.

It ain't Balance or truly good.

Hence why it was necessary.

Easy to tell when a player doesn't play PvP Casually enough to tell that clear point of why it is as so.
Or can't put 2 and 2 together without needing to PvP.

So the end result is, Character Story or Choice.
Which matters more some pushing of a mechanical idea where you feel the need to enforce a already archaic idea.

Or create somewhat off topic points for unknown reasons that just adds more merit to the main topic needing no locks in the first place.

Game needs to let players Glamour and Rep as they desire.

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It's irrelevant to pvp in that regard. If it was that's bad game design. 3 teams is already mornic, but your GC choice mattering for that is ignorance.

The bad game design part figures into surface level stuff. I can't use my Gridanian saddle while I'm in the Limsa GC etc. That's fine to me in every way.

I generally don't care if we have Hogwarts houses and I don't care if that makes you upset.