Xeno Rants: Explains How To Save The Game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kL2MkiaRJY

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3kL2MkiaRJY/h...2ZkLftCbBQFBZw
My thread is better :cool:



I'm sad 'cause he has to keep repeating himself every patch cycle. It's always the same stuff over and over. It's just exhausting. :(

He's such a major advocate, and just wants more opportunity for alts and players to gear. Then every piece of content SE releases continues to dumpster itself by adding no value to the other systems.





(I don't even care if people post, I just know FenyxRising camps youtube)

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Originally Posted by R041

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kL2MkiaRJY


My thread is better :cool:


I'm sad 'cause he has to keep repeating himself every patch cycle. It's always the same stuff over and over. It's just exhausting. :(

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This game has no personal save feature... also that guy is just as bad as Zepla, Meonie, Mr. Happy and whomever else that think they are awesome in some kind of weird way.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

This game has no personal save feature... also that guy is just as bad as Zepla, Meonie, Mr. Happy and whomever else that think they are awesome in some kind of weird way.

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Yeah, I don't agree with half the stuff Zepla, Mr. Happy, or Xeno say. I just know they're exuding frustration right now and it's kinda sad to watch. It's good cringe tbh.

It's like watching Jersey Shore, but they're getting tired and slow. lol

Do we really need another thread about content creator discussion? There's like 47 other threads already. Can we not just have one megathread rather than inflate the general board over and over?

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

Do we really need another thread about content creator discussion? There's like 47 other threads already. Can we not just have one megathread rather than inflate the general board over and over?

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I'm sorry, I had to. We have to fight fire with fire.



https://i.imgur.com/0vKQl2A.png



I hope you understand and will forgive me some day.

The rate at which general discussion goes through content creator discussion threads:

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He's one of few youtubers I simply can't stand. Even if he has a point to make, I'm certainly not watching him talk about it. To each their own. I won't hinder the discussion. Just dropping my 2 cents in here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGpw_AIA_cQ
I find this YouTube video much more interesting
Bigfoot is REAL! /s

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

He's one of few youtubers I simply can't stand. Even if he has a point to make, I'm certainly not watching him talk about it. To each their own. I won't hinder the discussion. Just dropping my 2 cents in here.

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He literally insults his viewers. I only saw a vid of him once and I can tell he's a sack of shit.

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

He literally insults his viewers. I only saw a vid of him once and I can tell he's a sack of shit.

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He only does it as a joke, though. His persona is "toxic" but in reality, he's probably one of the most grounded content creators when it comes to this game.

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Originally Posted by splinter1545

He only does it as a joke, though. His persona is "toxic" but in reality, he's probably one of the most grounded content creators when it comes to this game.

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Plenty of content creators use the whole persona thing as an excuse and they end up being assholes anyway. Like Asmongold.

Usual poster beat you to it.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

He's one of few youtubers I simply can't stand. Even if he has a point to make, I'm certainly not watching him talk about it. To each their own. I won't hinder the discussion. Just dropping my 2 cents in here.

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

He literally insults his viewers. I only saw a vid of him once and I can tell he's a sack of shit.

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These are common opinions people hold about Xeno, I find, but if you've ever actually watched him for more than 5 seconds, you would see he's a decent guy and just doing it for entertainment. Being the way he is, is a character, just like Asmongold is a character. They both get their most entertaining traits and turn them up to the max, but they probably would be more relaxed in person.

When Xeno is progging he is often too distracted to be anything but himself and you see he's pretty decent really. He has to not get too much into character when progging so he can have reasonable conversations with his raid team.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

Do we really need another thread about content creator discussion? There's like 47 other threads already. Can we not just have one megathread rather than inflate the general board over and over?

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What are you the forum police or uh um somethin?? Sorry had to it's the law. Kinda surprised a few other posters haven't already been snarky at you for complaining about this thread. It is getting tiresome tbh, but if this section of the forums was moderated more often maybe we wouldn't have to see 57 no my thread, ideas and feelings count more as often. I am a little surprised as spamming the forum with multiple threads about the same thing is against the ToS not that a certain poster and their alts seem to care.

He basically likes FF14 based on what he says. The only real problem he has is how loot is distribute for extreme content.

Hot take: SE need to have a full on gameplay revamp to get things feeling fresh again.

Xeno nails it out of the gate pointing out how little the core gameplay changed with EW. Meanwhile for all it's flaws, one thing WoW nailed early on was shaking up the formula up fairly regularly, be it remaking all the talent trees, shaking up class balance or what not. Sure many people will always object to being turfed out of their comfy zone but it keeps the game fresh and stops things feeling stale.

Stale like FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

Hot take: SE need to have a full on gameplay revamp to get things feeling fresh again.

Xeno nails it out of the gate pointing out how little the core gameplay changed with EW. Meanwhile for all it's flaws, one thing WoW nailed early on was shaking up the formula up fairly regularly, be it remaking all the talent trees, shaking up class balance or what not. Sure many people will always object to being turfed out of their comfy zone but it keeps the game fresh and stops things feeling stale.

Stale like FFXIV.

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So basically A Realm Reborn: Reborn?

..........Yeah actually I agree with you.

The problem is that Xeno/Arthars/Happy/Zepla/random youtuber can rant about FFXIV's gearing cycle till they're blue in the face, but the devs do the gearing system the way it is to maximize player retention and keep them subbed for as long as possible AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO KEEP GOING AFTER THAT CARROT. Yes, Xeno plays at a high level and can clear stuff week 1 but week 1 clear players are a very slim minority of the game population. THE DEVS CANNOT CATER TO WEEK 1 HIGH LEVEL PLAYERS.

Most people cannot clear the savage tier within 8 weeks (or are just starting prog on the final fight), and a slightly higher number of people do not get their first savage tier clear until close to or when the odd patch comes out (because of skill/casualness/schedule/etc). That means they still have another 8-10 weeks of reclears to be done before they are done with the gearing everyone's main (then it remains to be seen if they want to continue gearing any other classes they may want to play).

This is all assuming you started savage when it came out right away. This doesn't even begin to take in account the people that start the tier late, which the odd patch gear catch-up is designed to help out with power creep to assist people in hopefully better savage clears. The x.5 EX trial helps out with people that can't get solvents to upgrade the tome weapon so it still does serve a purpose.

Is the gearing system dev mindset out of date? Possibly. Pushback has led to some concessions last tier and this tier with the gearing system (reduction in the amount books needed for head/hands/gloves, fixed chest rewards, book 4 to lower book exchanges). But, predictably it's never enough, me me me want gear now give me now I want it all now.

But the youtubers want their clicks and views so they complain like this and then people rail here, and it's an endless cycle.

why did i even post this?

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

but the devs do the gearing system the way it is to maximize player retention and keep them subbed for as long as possible AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO KEEP GOING AFTER THAT CARROT.

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What carrot? I ain't see anything remotely carrot shaped ever.

You mean Housing?

I think people are starting to realize the whole gearing system isn't worth it's weight in shit.

Edit: I do get what you mean though. Just poking.
We know they setup the gearing the way they did to keep people chasing whatever the hell they're chasing. Meanwhile everyone else knows it doesn't even matter, so they're focusing on retention of the 5%? Braindead.

He says that SE needs to add more high difficulty content that not everyone can complete.
Which, I disagree with again, like most of these content creators that get posted here. I don't think adding more high end content for raiders is going to "save" the game just like I don't think adding more eurekas will "save" the game.
I do think that he's biased because he's pretty much exclusively a raider and always has been in that niche. So of course all the feedback he has is related to that perspective and of course he's going to ask for more stuff that he likes and is good for his content.
When casual players can't complete something they watch a streamer play it, and guess what niche he fills.

I will give him though he is at least mostly honest about where he comes from and why he wants these things but it doesn't really change that he's not really in touch with or has an accurate read on what the majority of the playerbase wants, or at least the casual/midcore side.
It's at least more honest and less out of touch than Happy or Arthars saying that savage is casual/midcore content unless you're a week 1 player.

While I agree with xeno’s core idea that EW is flawed (like most of the YouTubers) I actually really disagree with his solution

EW has been unequivocally the best expansion for high end content (it’s only completion is SB), 2 ultimates, the normal 12 savage fights, 3 criterion and 3 criterion savage, if anything from my finger on the pulse on the high end community too much of the community is actually getting burned out by the excessive amount of content especially with how long TOP and DSR take for your average “we decided we could do DSR after crawling through UWU” static)

The game needs field content level difficulty content that fills the patch voids (and it doesn’t have to be field content, if island sanctuary took longer than 5 minutes a week to progress it could totally count here, because I do count the ishagardian restoration here)

I also agree with sebazy’s point, the game is stale as hell, they’ve hid it for a few expansions by overhauling the job design philosophy every expansion, this is the first expansion where it truly feels like “the previous expansion 2.0” and with that happens it becomes almost painfully obvious how stale the formula is

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Originally Posted by SannaR

What are you the forum police or uh um somethin?? Sorry had to it's the law. Kinda surprised a few other posters haven't already been snarky at you for complaining about this thread. It is getting tiresome tbh, but if this section of the forums was moderated more often maybe we wouldn't have to see 57 no my thread, ideas and feelings count more as often. I am a little surprised as spamming the forum with multiple threads about the same thing is against the ToS not that a certain poster and their alts seem to care.

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I never said it's not a discussion worth having, I'm saying why is it scattered around a dozen different thread posts when it could just be one consolidated megathread? If you want to pay any attention to the conversation, you have to check a dozen different threads to try and keep up.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

Do we really need another thread about content creator discussion? There's like 47 other threads already. Can we not just have one megathread rather than inflate the general board over and over?

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I'm on it.

So like were back to saving ff14 man people tell that guy to play PSO2 NGS they need some guidance XD doing great over here them poor saps are hurting over there tell xeno to help them.

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Originally Posted by R041

My thread is better :cool:

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At least that's worth it, yes.

We didn't need ANOTHER reaction reaction thread, as we already have one at 150 pages. But hell, I'll bump this one to oppose Fenyx trolling/spamming the forums. Screw it, why not?

Still have no idea who this creator is, and at this point, I've already reached saturation on caring about YouTube creator videos thanks to Fenyx spamming them.

While some of the points he raised are true (such as the fact that the game is outdated in certain aspects like the gameplay,gear,tomestones,etc,...),
I really don't think adding difficult content would be a savior for the game,
on the contrary, maybe it will be the case for those who enjoy this type of content, but it's quite obvious that the participation rate in savage raids is negligible, not to mention the ultimate ones.

So, I'm not sure if this solution is effective, either in the short or long term.

No, they should add innovative PvE content that is neither too easy nor too difficult, making it accessible to everyone and providing sufficient engagement,
and I'm not necessarily referring only to exploration area.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I never said it's not a discussion worth having, I'm saying why is it scattered around a dozen different thread posts when it could just be one consolidated megathread? If you want to pay any attention to the conversation, you have to check a dozen different threads to try and keep up.

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You missed the point of most of my post. As recently a few posters have chosen to jump on those who ask why another thread less than a week let alone a day are making threads that are on the same topic or close to it that their thoughts could just go there. Or are made to mock another person's thread. Discussion on these topics is worth while no doubt. Someone needs to necro Altiburger's 6.5 sucks thread and if they didn't make one then someone who isn't the resident maker of complaint threads of things that haven't even cone out needs to make about 5.

Is AI being used to make these threads or something? This one and the other were made within 5 minutes of each other dealing with the same person. Feels sus.....

Could you (and others posting the zomg look at this YouTuber!!11 threads) please, please please give us a TL;dr? Like the main takeaways, if there are any. And/or any novel arguments they might be making? If it’s just more of the same… eh.

No offense to anyone mind you, just wanna know if the link is actually worth the time.

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Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

Is AI being used to make these threads or something? This one and the other were made within 5 minutes of each other dealing with the same person. Feels sus.....

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One of them was made by the person who usually makes threads about these things, and this one just happened to get posted at around the same time.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

just wanna know if the link is actually worth the time.

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It's not, that was the point.

It's regurgitated frustration infinitely looped because we never change and expect something different. Even the video is meta.

https://i.imgur.com/1p9lpvn.png

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Originally Posted by Zakuyia

So like were back to saving ff14 man people tell that guy to play PSO2 NGS they need some guidance XD doing great over here them poor saps are hurting over there tell xeno to help them.

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Honestly NGS is a mirror of what might become of XIV in a not so distant future.