FFXIV cash shop in a nutshell

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I think your picture is wrong, FFXIV players actually want to pay more, havent you seen ?

People asking on the forums for more boosts for things such as trusts, on the facebook page, people are actually asking for more paid hairstyles and more other paid items, glams, mounts etc, it's like people actually want to be milked in this game, it really is an experience

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

I think your picture is wrong, FFXIV players actually want to pay more, havent you seen ?

People asking on the forums for more boosts for things such as trusts, on the facebook page, people are actually asking for more paid hairstyles and more other paid items, glams, mounts etc, it's like people actually want to be milked in this game, it really is an experience

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The only issues I have with the mog station is the following:

- Having to log in up to 2 times on a site to get items is annoying, they should have made an in game store like Guildwars 2 did and several other games. No hassle, no confusion.. people would more easily spend money that way.
- Some items are overpriced. I think my time is just as valuable as a graphics designer since I'm a human being too so I don't think it justifies asking more then 15 € for a mount or any other item. Most items are overpriced and I think SE knows this hence the discounts once in a while.
- The items on offer are poor in amount, you sometimes notice NPC's, missions or quests having awesome items, windows, furniture, etc... But for some reason you can't acquire it in game or buy it on the mog station. I think SE is missing out on a lot of money this way. And its fairy easy to get people interested.. make sure there is housing for everyone and "upgrade" housing so it becomes something everyone wants (putting the demolition timer on 6 months instead of 45 days would help but ofcourse only if the housing shortage has been plugged entirely).
- I notice that some mounts have awesome battle music while some don't have music at all or just have the basic city music which makes it feel unfinished. I think mounts need to stand out so they are worth buying... For me its not about the looks.. I want functionality too and one of that is good music, additional player slots, additional movement speed, special effects (like skills). A mount without all that shouldn't even cost 8 € (less!) in my opinion.
Guess I'll post an idea about this.

The ironic part of the Online Store is that most of the gear there is rather lazily made as the designers don't seem to know that most of the races have some non-human features...

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The absolute quality of the Seigneur set on a Miqo'te.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

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But we are getting new stuff in the game. We just got a super sentai/kamen rider outfit and are getting a mount that let's use be the mount.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

I think your picture is wrong, FFXIV players actually want to pay more, havent you seen ?

People asking on the forums for more boosts for things such as trusts, on the facebook page, people are actually asking for more paid hairstyles and more other paid items, glams, mounts etc, it's like people actually want to be milked in this game, it really is an experience

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Says the person who bought the Warrior boost and the Shadowbringers skip.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

The ironic part of the Online Store is that most of the gear there is rather lazily made as the designers don't seem to know that most of the races have some non-human features...

https://iili.io/Hy9kSTl.png

The absolute quality of the Seigneur set on a Miqo'te.

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The headphones on au ra were another high quality banger.

While true, Im hope Im not the only one who just goes hard pass on many of the vogue, edgelord designer model outfits they always like to put out in shop.

Mounts yeah, that still sucks but the glam? Naw hard pass for me. Ill just stick with the various ingame armors.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

The headphones on au ra were another high quality banger.

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You wouldn't be able to make them work like the other races due to the horns, so they went with the 'close enough' option.

I want a male Roe minion that is dressed like one from the wall and just floats around T-posing everywhere.

To each their own with being able to see whether store stuff is worth it.

I'd feel like I'd given up if I bought any store item or boost in any game. I still have boosts unused in WoW that they give you when you buy the xpac. Also went out of my way to camp for TLPD there solo rather than pay off someone in game to farm it for me.

IIRC I have the Sabotender Emperador from no lifing Gold Saucer and Duty Roulette. Gimme silly things in game to do to earn stuff to keep my sub going.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

I think your picture is wrong, FFXIV players actually want to pay more, havent you seen ?

People asking on the forums for more boosts for things such as trusts, on the facebook page, people are actually asking for more paid hairstyles and more other paid items, glams, mounts etc, it's like people actually want to be milked in this game, it really is an experience

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Most of them don't play the game.
FFXIV = Second life = pay for everything.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Most of them don't play the game.
FFXIV = Second life = pay for everything.

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Endgame for these people is p2w LOL

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

The ironic part of the Online Store is that most of the gear there is rather lazily made as the designers don't seem to know that most of the races have some non-human features...

https://iili.io/Hy9kSTl.png

The absolute quality of the Seigneur set on a Miqo'te.

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To be fair, it's not like this is a cash shop exclusive problem.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

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Tyrael's Charger in WoW anyone?

I don't believe that the Producer for this game makes any direct announcements about mogstation merchandise. The web site does, and it's on the Launcher page sometimes, but I don't remember seeing any announcements from him personally during Live Letters or Fan Fests.

Could be wrong, of course. Happy to see direct citations. I just think this particular meme is a teensy tiny bit false.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

I don't believe that the Producer for this game makes any direct announcements about mogstation merchandise. The web site does, and it's on the Launcher page sometimes, but I don't remember seeing any announcements from him personally during Live Letters or Fan Fests.

Could be wrong, of course. Happy to see direct citations. I just think this particular meme is a teensy tiny bit false.

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I also wouldn't put it past microtransactions being above his grade (Maybe what he can mtx is his discretion, but I think directors get arm twisted).

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

I think your picture is wrong, FFXIV players actually want to pay more, havent you seen ?

People asking on the forums for more boosts for things such as trusts, on the facebook page, people are actually asking for more paid hairstyles and more other paid items, glams, mounts etc, it's like people actually want to be milked in this game, it really is an experience

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And then they make their own whole thread on the forums to gloat about how they bought something on the cash shop and "I would gladly pay 10 times that amount!"

I will never understand these people. Like, they can't just make suggestions for new glams, mounts, hairstyles, etc., without also saying it should be an addition to the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie

I'd feel like I'd given up if I bought any store item or boost in any game.

...Gimme silly things in game to do to earn stuff to keep my sub going.

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Same! I seriously have to wonder how much money Square Enix makes on selling job boosts, versus how much money they're losing by not making players actually spend time leveling. And it's not just about the time it takes, it's also about the experience of engaging with the game, hanging out with it, experiencing the job quest story, having a sense of progress. There's a hidden cost in the lack of player connection with the game.

And like you say, more mounts and glams in the cash shop means less things subscribers have to work on and keep subbing for. I'm not big into relic weapons, but there are a few I really wanted so I put in the grind. 100% worth it. But if they instead had put those weapons on the cash shop, I know I wouldn't have bought them. I wouldn't have put in the time to earn them. I would have that additional rotten feeling of resentment just knowing they're on the shop instead of attainable through gameplay. And that last one may not be the last straw that breaks the camel's back and makes someone unsubscribe, but it's not nothing either.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

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This is already a thing.
So!

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

I think your picture is wrong, FFXIV players actually want to pay more, havent you seen ?

People asking on the forums for more boosts for things such as trusts, on the facebook page, people are actually asking for more paid hairstyles and more other paid items, glams, mounts etc, it's like people actually want to be milked in this game, it really is an experience

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Lmao TRUE.

This is a bit of a double edged sword. If the Mog Store wasn't a thing there is no guarantee that any of the things that were Mog Station only would actually be in game. Quite of few of those items weren't even designed for our client but by the Chinese and Korean teams which are managed by a separate entity completely so those definitely would not have made it in game ever without the store.

On the flip side I do think it would be better of old event items were at least purchasable during their event for at least a year or two after the initial release. I understand making it for all would be... unrealistic because they design new rewards each year. If we were to have rewards from every Midsummer Festival since ARR's release that would be... well lets just say overwhelming is likely an understatement. At the same time not having it make a return at least once is a bit much in the other direction too.

Honestly I am surprised the Phoenix mount is available in game and not in the cash shop while a recolor of something else is the in-game mount. There has been a lot of effort put into the cash shop items and it feels like less in to the actual in-game items.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I want a male Roe minion that is dressed like one from the wall and just floats around T-posing everywhere.

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I'll meet with the Weeaboo Police Department's Quartermaster and see what I can do for you, citizen.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

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Wow, glad to see someone else has been doing my work while I was gone. Good stuff, Lieutenant. I'll take it from here.

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

Wow, glad to see someone else has been doing my work while I was gone. Good stuff, Lieutenant. I'll take it from here.

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Your support is much appreciated, citizen! May the light embrace you.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

The headphones on au ra were another high quality banger.

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Out of curiosity, I see a ton of people complaining about the au ra headphones, but... what would even be a different solution without creating a whole different type of headphone? It would look insanely goofy if it was on the horns themselves, especially the ones that are particularly wide. I feel that they approached the best way considering everything.

I could be mistaken - but to the OP - I thought I read that Yoshi P had no control over the mogstation because it was a different team that decide what goes there.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I could be mistaken - but to the OP - I thought I read that Yoshi P had no control over the mogstation because it was a different team that decide what goes there.

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Don't you know? Everything even vaguely related to the game is automatically Yoshi's fault. It's easier than having to figure out what's actually going on.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Don't you know? Everything even vaguely related to the game is automatically Yoshi's fault. It's easier than having to figure out what's actually going on.

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Yeah surely there's "the big bad baroness" that has control over the mogstation

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

Yeah surely there's "the big bad baroness" that has control over the mogstation

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Ah yes, and anything that isn't talking about how the game is terrible and doomed and Yoshi eats puppies is copium. Forgot about that, thank you owner of multiple paying accounts.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Ah yes, and anything that isn't talking about how the game is terrible and doomed and Yoshi eats puppies is copium. Forgot about that, thank you owner of multiple paying accounts.

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Out of posts, but to give you a response

Maybe, just maybe, you actually are on copium if you think the "big bad baroness" that controls the mog station is a thing.

Keep dreaming.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

thank you owner of multiple paying accounts.

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The argument that keeps on giving. Whenever I feel sad because I got a mean, mean, meme posted at me, I remember that fact.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Out of posts, but to give you a response

Maybe, just maybe, you actually are on copium if you think the "big bad baroness" that controls the mog station is a thing.

Keep dreaming.

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And if you really think Yoshi is directly responsible for everything, you have no idea how a corporation works.

No idea where you're pulling this "big bad baroness" thing from, either. But hey, have fun, kiddo.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Out of posts, but to give you a response

Maybe, just maybe, you actually are on copium if you think the "big bad baroness" that controls the mog station is a thing.

Keep dreaming.

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Yoshi P himself has referred to someone else in the past as being in charge of cash shop additions. So yeah, not everything is his call, but obviously he's got some sway as the director. He just doesn't control literally every aspect of the game. Everyone has a boss to answer to.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yoshi P himself has referred to someone else in the past as being in charge of cash shop additions. So yeah, not everything is his call, but obviously he's got some sway as the director. He just doesn't control literally every aspect of the game.

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Sure, but he has more than a say in all of that stuff, he aint an innocent bystander is the point, he has a say.

Has anybody or any department at Square Enix come forth and taken responsibility for the cash shop? I haven't heard of anybody doing so. Kind of makes you wonder.

Some dude on Reddit made a post today saying they hope FFXIV never goes Free to Play, because "Every paid MMO who turns to free to play, the game has become completely plagued with bots, rtm, poor audience and toxicity, and it opens up to predatory microtransactional behavior in shops and mechanics."

I sort of get what they mean, but at the same time I'm like... bruh, we already have all those things.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Some dude on Reddit made a post today saying they hope FFXIV never goes Free to Play, because "Every paid MMO who turns to free to play, the game has become completely plagued with bots, rtm, poor audience and toxicity, and it opens up to predatory microtransactional behavior in shops and mechanics."

I sort of get what they mean, but at the same time I'm like... bruh, we already have all those things.

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That post was probably in response to the latest news where Yoshi-P debunks rumors of the game going free to play sometime soon because I guess the rumors are spreading out way to frequently.
https://www.dexerto.com/final-fantas...tance-2282417/

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Has anybody or any department at Square Enix come forth and taken responsibility for the cash shop? I haven't heard of anybody doing so. Kind of makes you wonder.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Has anybody or any department at Square Enix come forth and taken responsibility for the cash shop? I haven't heard of anybody doing so. Kind of makes you wonder.

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.....why would they?
What would we even get out of knowing? Are we that desperate to have a target to attack?