I'm enjoying the crafting things. I've hunted the materials by my own but when it comes to the loots from monster overworld, the drop rate is ridiculously low, like I've to kill them for 2 circles just for 1 root and the drive me mad.
So please, increase the drop rate of the materials from the monster in overworld.
Thank you
Please, increase drop rate the loot from world map
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08-21-2023, 04:23 PMWingalePlease, increase drop rate the loot from world map
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08-21-2023, 05:24 PMRenaltI got tired of farming materials from monster drops that what I did was farm them till it drops ONCE so then I can instruct my combat class retainer to hunt it down for me. The higher the Retainers Ilvl then the more of that item and the less time it takes for them to come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingale
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08-21-2023, 05:51 PMVelKallor
Renalt, you dont actually need to farm items for the retainer combat missions. These are available automatically. The ONLY area where you need to farm materials in this fashion is for gather class retainers ( gather logs)
Ive tested this, and even on an alt that hasnt farmed say aldgoat skin, my combat retainers can go out and get them. The key is as you said, to gear the retainers to get the best yield. But heres the good part.
Combat retainers have what is called an ilevel breakpoint. For example you dont HAVE to give them the latest combat gear, Ive found that the first tier is usually sufficient.
( Mind you, Im the kind that has decked them all out in HQ Diadochos gear.....then again , you can put that down to me being a little too attentive to details :o:o:p) -
08-21-2023, 06:11 PMTint
Yes better ways to farm these materials would be nice. Right now you basically have to rely on battle class retainers, which is more or less pay to win.
It gets even worse when there is even one other person on the server who wants to farm the same materials. There are simply not enough enemys for two people to grind for monster drops. -
08-21-2023, 06:48 PMVelKallorSeeing as you get at least THREE if not more free of charge..how?Quote:
which is more or less pay to win.
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08-21-2023, 06:53 PMRenalt
Oh I forgot one thing...if gonna farm monster parts then NIN is best with Mug. Mug also increases drop rate and the amount. How I noticed it works is when I killed Black Sheep with it I would maybe get 3 or 4 wool from them if it dropped at all but Mug would also add to it. It would say something like "gained 3 wool" followed by "Gained 2 wool" right under that one a single kill. The higher your level I think the more you can snag at one time.
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08-21-2023, 07:07 PMJeeqbit
I was going to suggest NIN as well.
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08-21-2023, 07:26 PMTintYou get two for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by VelKallor
And just yesterday I needed 120 skins, 120 wool, 80 other skins and another 20 other skins.
You get 15 items per hour per retainer. Thats 12 hours of sending out your free retainers. Sure that is possible in a day... but come on.
Plus of course the added space on the market board.
If you seriously want to play a crafter you basically have to pay for the extra retainers. -
08-21-2023, 08:59 PMSoge01
WoW allowed you to skin killed enemies in open world if you had leather worker unlocked. Would be neat if we had a new gathering class focused entirely on taking items from downed enemies. :)
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08-21-2023, 09:32 PMLianaThorneYou definitely only get two.Quote:
Originally Posted by VelKallor
Source: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...itional%20fees.
Specific text referenced: Your FINAL FANTASY XIV subscription allows you to hire up to two retainers per character without paying any additional fees.
Pay to win is any system where a player can purchase something that is not cosmetic in nature in order to gain an advantage. I would classify the retainer system being that. You're paying for an extra farming chance and storage space (i.e. the advantage) which sub-only/non spending players could not have without buying said extra retainer. By giving the ability to buy more retainers, they're selling additional access to two game features (more retainers for more farming + more storage space) which removes the possibility of it being a cosmetic only purchase. -
08-21-2023, 10:15 PMVelKallor
Three free in all.
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By default, you can only hire two Retainers, but you can add up to 7 additional retainers (for a total of 9) from the Mog Station. The FFXIV Companion App also gives you an extra retainer (past that 9 for a total of 10) if upgraded to premium, alongside double Chocobo Saddlebag space.
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08-21-2023, 11:13 PMTintPremium costs 5$ a month, that's not free.Quote:
Originally Posted by VelKallor
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08-22-2023, 12:48 AMGember
Two options:
1. Have a combat retainer. If you don't have one yet, get them to level 10, and then just keep letting them do quick exploration until they level to max, or at the level they need to be for certain materials. That is the best way since they wouldn't need gear for quick exploration. This will take some time though. It depends how often you can check your retainers.
2. Market Board scouting. A lot of players crash the market boards all the time and some materials are so cheap that its not even worth the wait for a retainer or hunting the mobs for them. With DC travel, you have more options now days than before.
I don't really like the idea of more drops being available because we are already dealing with a lot bots at the moment. Even gathering got so bad with their rounds. I get your pain though. I had to do a lot of jumping around for leatherworker and that is why their hides are more expensive than a lot of other materials. I wish you luck. -
08-22-2023, 12:55 AMAvatre
If you have a friend who is going to be AFK, or willing to sit AFK in the field you're trying to get monster drops from, join a party together, and they will have a chance to get the drops from each of your kills. Used to do this with a friend when we were first outfitting an old FC's house. Got tons of materials that way.
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08-22-2023, 02:19 AMPercibelTheren
I think the worst for me was trying to make Chimerical Felt when I was trying to craft something. There are only very few chimeras in Azys Lla, their respawn timer is extremely long and the drop dare is painfully small.
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08-22-2023, 09:21 AMVelKallorThats what I get for studying late and not reading closely enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tint
I stand corrected and please pass the humble pie.:( Thank you Tint :D -
08-22-2023, 11:02 AMkaynide
This is honestly (imo) a failing of the DoH/DoL system overall, and the Island Sanctuary.
For me there are two big problems:
1) we should be able to use items somewhat interchangeably or convert them around (eg claws, hides, etc), especially from Island Sanctuary, and
2) the devs really don't need to add components for the sake of having new components.
Example: Not counting Chocobo-Coloring-Food, we have 5 different apples in the game.
In the real world, I understand that certain apples are better than others in certain recipes, but there really isn't anything stopping you from making an apple pie with whatever apples you've got. In FFXIV, apple A makes juice, B makes a tart and C makes a strudel. Can't mix and match! Why not a dynamic system where all of them make apple juice, but the iLVL/effects are better with better ingredients?
Or, I dunno, add entirely new ingredients relevant to the expansion?
We've just visited the fantasy equivalent of "India", but there aren't any mangos, durian, pomegranate (despite there being a pomegranate fish...)
More to OP's topic- There really isn't a need for so many different claw/horn/hide/etc, and instead should just be a a generic grade 1-5 hide ("rough hide", "smooth hide", "fine hide", "flawless hide" or whatever); this means you can farm wherever/whenever- as long as you are killing level 90 mobs that have hides, you can get current top-grade hides.
Guildwars does something similar to this, and their crafting system feels pretty good- it's simple, but pretty robust. -
08-22-2023, 11:08 AMkaynideBut to be fair, you have access to up to 16 retainers for no additional fee (assuming you want to do the legwork and/or pay for 3 months at a time).Quote:
Originally Posted by VelKallor
The price for the standard edition for 180 days is the same as the per-month entry level (12.99 USD) This means you have up to 8 characters, each with retainers.
By the time you hit level 50, you can easily do 1-2 dungeons a week on that side character and trade the loot for venture tokens via GC; by 60 you can solo-speed run them. It takes less than a week casually to get a character here. You shouldn't ever need this many retainers, but the option is there.
To OP: The easiest thing to do is unlock fisher, get fisher to max level via Ocean Fishing and then just send them on daily 18 hour ventures to sell the allagan coins they get. That profit will easily pay for whatever you're having trouble finding in the wilds. -
08-22-2023, 02:33 PMDuskane
you should see if any dungeon gear can desynth into the materials you are after
because unsyncing a dungeon could get you more than just trying to overworld farm -
08-23-2023, 07:06 AMHasratI would like to unlock this skill where leveling up characters gives me more time in the day to play the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaynide
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08-23-2023, 07:31 AMWilford111
I would like to mention that you can buy these materials from Bicolor Gemstone Vendors if the recipe is shb or ew
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08-23-2023, 09:13 AMkaynideIf you have already enjoyed the story and just blitz the MSQ (skip cutscenes, teleport a lot), you can easily do this in like… 6 to 8 hours. We’re talking an hour or two a day over one week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasrat
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08-23-2023, 09:42 AMJojoyaThat depends on how much you're trying to get. I'm killing those frequently because they're part of the spawn requirement for Leucrotta. Takes about 15 minutes to kill the 50 needed and I'll end up with enough Chimera Mane for 7-9 bolts.Quote:
Originally Posted by PercibelTheren
The open world mob drops are a way for players who don't wish to gather or craft to get some gil. SE is highly unlikely to change the drop rate at this point considering the relatively low demand for the drops that aren't part of the most recent expansion. Desynthesis has most leather and cloth bolts going up on the marketboard at very inexpensive prices so it makes even less sense to farm your own. If your concern is needing HQ materials to make a HQ item, ask an experienced crafter for advice. Outside of end game master recipes, nothing should be requiring HQ materials. -
08-23-2023, 01:43 PMHasratThat's not having more hours in the day to play. That's playing an extra 6-8 hours on top of doing what I'm already doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaynide
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08-23-2023, 05:25 PMkaynideI mean, your snarky comment seemed to imply it requires some ridiculous amount of time to do what is actually quite easy to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasrat
Whether you want to actually do it is on you. I’m not here to dictate what you do with your time.