Potions (such as Hi-potions, Ether, ..etc.) see little to no use in FF14 unlike other FF games, i've been thinking, why not rework them to have them replace restorative abilities ( second wind, lucid dreaming) with a 20 sec cd per use, some limitations can also be placed on how many can be equipped, let them also be used by all jobs while greatly reducing self-sustain abilities currently present (on Tanks specifically).
Speaking of Tanks, why not give them some crowd control status effects and make them associated with their aoe abilities on 30 sec cd, for example (PLD:SoC. & GNB:BowShk. = blind effect for a short duration) , (WAR: Orog. & DRK:AbysDr. = Pacification effect for a "shorter" duration).
Reworking Restorative Potions + Tank abilities
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06-03-2023, 12:27 AMThorinGReworking Restorative Potions + Tank abilities
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06-03-2023, 12:38 AMMoshaHP pots and ether pots have their uses if you know when to use them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorinG
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06-03-2023, 12:51 AMShougun
If they did that I'd prefer bottomless potions, or tying it to the repair system (and dark matter + alchemist can replenish the durability). Limit per battle rather than content (5 bottles or something, 2 extra for bosses, and further if echo tiers are reached).
If it wasn't streamlined into a system like that I'd probably stretch each potion to the limit as I generally do not like generic consumables as a whole (Souls like systems are okay). Also if it wasn't forced into a system like that I can only imagine the joy of getting a mana-less healer or floor tank lol.
That said I don't know if weaker sustain would have a net positive impact given our community predilection and how deep we are... still think the easiest bet for healers is just to give up the healers must primarily be heal responsible and give them a bunch of support and combat skills based on theme (offensive and defensive).
Paladin used to have pacification and blind CC. I don't miss flash lol, but more diverse flavor tools would be neat. -
06-03-2023, 02:21 AMJeeqbitPalace of the Dead, Heaven-on-High, Eureka Orthos. They are also useful when a healer is dead or there is no healer, especially at lower levels where they are more effective and tanks have less self-heals. A good emergency button when there isn't a healer.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorinG
I found them useful when doing no-healer runs of dungeons at lower levels especially.
The main issue is that you can't even consider using them in raids because you are probably using tinctures.Quote:
i've been thinking, why not rework them to have them replace restorative abilities ( second wind, lucid dreaming) with a 20 sec cd per use, some limitations can also be placed on how many can be equipped, let them also be used by all jobs while greatly reducing self-sustain abilities currently present (on Tanks specifically).
PLD used to have blind on Flash and Pacification on Shield Swipe. Nobody really noticed or cared about these effects, to the point SE just got rid of them. The only thing people notice most of the time in this game is whether something does damage. :DQuote:
Speaking of Tanks, why not give them some crowd control status effects and make them associated with their aoe abilities on 30 sec cd, for example (PLD:SoC. & GNB:BowShk. = blind effect for a short duration) , (WAR: Orog. & DRK:AbysDr. = Pacification effect for a "shorter" duration).
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06-03-2023, 02:46 AMHasratOther FF games aren't MMOs. There are limitations to what will translate and what won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorinG
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06-03-2023, 02:52 AMDeceptus100% this. Synced down to 50 or below? An HQ Max potion is essentially an extra tank CD on a 1m CD. 30% hp every minute is ridiculously good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosha
Max lvl? The new HQ potion heals for MORE than Second Wind does with half the CD.
Max Ethers can routinely be used by BLM in dungeons to get an extra flare off. -
06-03-2023, 03:19 AMOizen
Excuse me, Orthos hyper potions are basically DRK's only self sustain tool. I need them.
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06-03-2023, 07:12 AMSimple_BarghestSay it louder for the people in the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
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06-03-2023, 10:24 PMDeceptusCarve & Spit needs decoupled from Abyssal Drain and C&S needs a healing component.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oizen
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06-04-2023, 03:58 AMAbsurdityThere is also the fact that they're extremely clunky to use due to their extended animation lock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
Weaving a healing potion every 20 seconds would probably drive me insane. -
06-04-2023, 05:23 AMEquitable_RemedyMore HP pots :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
More Dexterity pots :) -
06-04-2023, 06:56 AMDiaDeemYou've never been to a deep dungeon or Eureka, have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorinG
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06-04-2023, 09:52 AMGhost_of_Ebina
The newest potion (hyper potion) is pretty helpful -- it's an extra method to keep me alive when I am out of all of my other healing resources.
Prices have also gone way down in the marketboards. I even use ether bottles in case I run out of MP and I need it real bad.
Too bad for ether bottles they haven't introduced a "hyper" version yet.