Request: Matte versions of the Abyssos and Anabaseios armour

The recent raid gear sets have got all out on the cool glowy factor. Crystals and sparkles and flames (oh my) all over them and floating around them, which is great if people like that approach, but I just want the designs without all that.

Can we please get a version of the head and chest gear pieces that has no special effects on it?

Maybe put it on the same vendor and the same price as the glowy version, or give some kind of augmentation item perhaps.

They're cool designs but it feels like they're going to waste. In particular, the swirling fire ring on the Abyssos fending/maiming armour makes me queasy to look at it, making it impossible to use the armour even if it looks good. And the DPS coats just look like cool coats but I don't necessarily want them to be on fire.

Bump for visibility.

It feels like such a missed opportunity that they didn't make effects-vs-non-effects the defining point between normal and savage gear, instead of the usual dyeable/undyeable divide.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The recent raid gear sets have got all out on the cool glowy factor. Crystals and sparkles and flames (oh my) all over them and floating around them, which is great if people like that approach, but I just want the designs without all that.

Can we please get a version of the head and chest gear pieces that has no special effects on it?

Maybe put it on the same vendor and the same price as the glowy version, or give some kind of augmentation item perhaps.

They're cool designs but it feels like they're going to waste. In particular, the swirling fire ring on the Abyssos fending/maiming armour makes me queasy to look at it, making it impossible to use the armour even if it looks good. And the DPS coats just look like cool coats but I don't necessarily want them to be on fire.

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Instead they should just have a toggle. You do know what would happen if the implemented it your way right? Effects would be limited to savage mode, and be rendered inaccessible to certain players.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Instead they should just have a toggle. You do know what would happen if the implemented it your way right? Effects would be limited to savage mode, and be rendered inaccessible to certain players.

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That sort of thing is perfectly acceptable if they make the normal gear able to be dyed. No different than shiny Ultimate weapons, after all.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Instead they should just have a toggle.

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This is also what I proposed in a thread some time ago (see here).

Hopefully they'll implement this for not only these but other types of gear and especially chestpieces.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

This is also what I proposed in a thread some time ago (see here).

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A toggle for chest pieces would be great, but I think you're shooting your own idea in the foot by pairing it in the same request as removing level restrictions, which is highly unlikely to happen.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

A toggle for chest pieces would be great, but I think you're shooting your own idea in the foot by pairing it in the same request as removing level restrictions, which is highly unlikely to happen.

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They are two different suggestions condensed in the same thread and both probably require some time from the developers to implement.

However, removing the level restriction of glamor when you are able to equip both items is long overdue, especially if we consider that the problem will also extend to level 90 content when new glams are released in Dawntrail.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

They are two different suggestions condensed in the same thread and both probably require some time from the developers to implement.

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That's exactly my point. They are two different suggestions. By putting them together, if one is rejected out of hand then the other may not get a glance, and there is no indication of which proposal the "likes" are actually in support of.

And no, I don't particularly think we're "long overdue" to glamour high-level pieces onto lower ones, especially if it's going to take development time away from other bigger problems. You can just find an outfit that works at the lower level. I'm still using some glamours that were viable at level 50 or 60.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

You do know what would happen if the implemented it your way right? Effects would be limited to savage mode, and be rendered inaccessible to certain players.

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Only temporarily inaccessible until the next expansion, like the dyeable gear and weapons already are. I can't do savage raids at level. (Well, maybe I could be I don't really try.)

Anyway, if it was up to what I think looks better, the tacky fireworks would be on the normal mode and clean versions on the savage.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

And no, I don't particularly think we're "long overdue" to glamour high-level pieces onto lower ones, especially if it's going to take development time away from other bigger problems. You can just find an outfit that works at the lower level. I'm still using some glamours that were viable at level 50 or 60.

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Every suggestion is going to take development time away from something else, including the very one you propose in this thread. That should never be an excuse for us to ask the devs to change things for the better and for them to implement them, in my opinion, because they have the resources and the means to do so.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Every suggestion is going to take development time away from something else, including the very one you propose in this thread. That should never be an excuse for us to ask the devs to change things for the better and for them to implement them, in my opinion, because they have the resources and the means to do so.

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I can still think a thing isn't worth doing while asking for something else.

Also, asking them to redesign a game system to do something more complicated than it currently does, isn't necessarily equal with taking an existing item and turning off the fire effects. Even more if they done it at the beginning when they were creating the items in the first place and needed to make two versions. They've done raid gear with these un removable sparkles twice in a row now and I'd rather they at least reconsider it for next time.

bump for common sense idea

I really liked the healer robe from last tier (it wasn't white, shocker)

If SE had any common sense to them, they'd have made the normal mode gear dyeable, and the savage gear have the extra VFX, that way if we want the regular gear with no fire, we just glam the normal mode gear over the savage pieces. Alternatively, SE could look into making certain sets have VFX as a 'set effect', so if you equip/glam the full normal mode set, you get the VFX, same with Savage set. But if you were to, for example, glam the normal mode boots onto the Savage rest-of-the-set, the set effect gets disabled and you have the appearance of the full set, but without the VFX

Also, instead of a huge ugly ring of fire behind them, I think the Tank/DRG sets would have been better if the trim of the cape was the part that had the fire (leaving ember vfx floating in the air behind as you move), that way if you do EG Primal Rend, you'd see a trail of embers arcing through the air where you just were

I just hate the big ring it looks so goofy

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Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe

Alternatively, SE could look into making certain sets have VFX as a 'set effect', so if you equip/glam the full normal mode set, you get the VFX, same with Savage set. But if you were to, for example, glam the normal mode boots onto the Savage rest-of-the-set, the set effect gets disabled and you have the appearance of the full set, but without the VFX

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That doesn't sound like a useful way to go about it. It would stop you from being able to mix and match the effects with other outfits.

Recently been diving into Wakfu at a friends suggestion and first thing that comes to mind is how the Auras work there

An interesting approach XIV could take is exactly that, Auras that appear on your character similar to how you pick a title. Unlock the Abyssos ring from Savage and have it dye to your chestpiece color, get a swimming group of transparent fish around you from the Big Fish title, the decievers diamonds or the floating souls from the variant dungeons, and so on

They could tie most of the effects behind already-existing archievements, and then grab them on Jonathas as a consumable

I know for a group people, Auras would be a bit "over the top" in terms of clutter for the screen, so a Toggle to hide them (like how we can hide titles) would be needed as well

Also... it would be funny to get an aura that just puts a sprout on top of your head