My views have changed slightly on some glamour restrictions

Specifically DoH gear. While I have supported restrictions on gear in the past, especially for job and gender specific attire, my grip has loosened a bit for DoH gear and this is why:

• From my observations, very few players actually allocate glamour plates to DoH classes and this leads to these absolutely lovely designs being largely unused.
  
• Players would probably use them more if more glamour plates were available, but this is not the case right now.
  
• I respect development time, and feel it should go towards what players will benefit from. Since time does go into designing DoH specific gear per class every expansion, but not a lot of players use them. I would rather the dev team either do away with it entirely in favor of more available glamour choices/hairstyles, or make these outfits available for all classes so they can be enjoyed by more players when designing their glamour plates for other jobs.

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Hopefully this shows that views can change over time. Even mine. It isn't very broad in this case, but even a little can go a long way. I really like how some of these look on combat classes. Here is the Boltsoph's Swallowtail on my SCH. I really love the look!

https://i.imgur.com/1epCrsY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/y5rM1cQ.jpg

Restrictions are kinda stupid for crafters and gatherer's, id love to wear full plate armor while gathering.

Weaver and artisan have really beautiful glam possibilities that I wish we could use overall

I think one of the restrictions I hate are glams being designated by the armor type rather the job your using if I have a butler glam for my DK but a rabbit suite glam for my Pally one gets the glam removed because I'm using the same armor for my tank sets but different glams.

Yea the single crafter/gatherer sets go largely unused (or they will start to clog up your armory chest pretty hard). I definitely agree the restrictions should get loosened there.

A lot of my favourite glamour pieces are crafter exclusive. I'd love to be able to use them for combat jobs.

I wish they would remove glamour restrictions entirely. Job and level restrictions on cosmetics are really not necessary.
I know the reasoning behind their existence, but to that my answer is and always will be: Namazu head piece.

I am fine with restricted Artifact Armor. And weapons of course. Maybe even the starter gear, whatever. But everything else should be unlocked.

Agreed, opening up crafter gear as glamours for combat jobs would be a neat perk for not just levelling crafters, but actually gearing them somewhat even if you don't actually intend to make stuff seriously.

Other than weapons, the only restriction on glamour should be that you have to be able to equip it on the appropriate job first. Let me use my Copied Factory caster dress on dancer, damnit!

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Originally Posted by Xelanar

I wish they would remove glamour restrictions entirely. Job and level restrictions on cosmetics are really not necessary.
I know the reasoning behind their existence, but to that my answer is and always will be: Namazu head piece.

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But the jOb fAntAsY!!
*rolls up to fight Hades as a tank in a leopard print bikini*

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

But the jOb fAntAsY!!
*rolls up to fight Hades as a tank in a leopard print bikini*

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*rolls up as a lalafel jumping 10m and holding a massive sword with pudgy arms*

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Other than weapons, the only restriction on glamour should be that you have to be able to equip it on the appropriate job first. Let me use my Copied Factory caster dress on dancer, damnit!

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Pretty much how FF11 does it. That and I wish I could apply glamour plates everywhere like I can in FF11...

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Originally Posted by Amenara

Pretty much how FF11 does it. That and I wish I could apply glamour plates everywhere like I can in FF11...

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At least that part's being worked on. Having to be in a sanctuary is better than having to be in a major city.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Other than weapons, the only restriction on glamour should be that you have to be able to equip it on the appropriate job first. Let me use my Copied Factory caster dress on dancer, damnit!

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Role restrictions are a bit different. You won't catch me arguing that healers shouldn't be wearing heavy armor, or tanks shouldn't be wearing robes. I recognize that mine own D&D approach to glamour choices doesn't have to fit everyone else's mold.

However, the issue is actually that gear tied to roles have stats, which conflicts with the game's engine. In order to make these work the way players want would require to revamp the entire glamour system. Due to the time and resources required to do this, my stance on role restrictions specifically remains the same as always.

Trust me though, I've shed many tears on options that are not available due to role restrictions, so I feel the pain here.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Role restrictions are a bit different. You won't catch me arguing that healers shouldn't be wearing heavy armor, or tanks shouldn't be wearing robes. I recognize that mine own D&D approach to glamour choices doesn't have to fit everyone else's mold.

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Since most low-level caster gear is usable by all classes, you can easily create a tank wearing robes as glamour.
And then there is the tank gear from the dungeon Shisui of the Violet Tides.

No, there is really no good arguments for any restrictions on glamour.

There could possibly, maybe, be some technical problem with using some glamour where your current job couldn't wear the actual gear piece, but if there is it should be fixed.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Since most low-level caster gear is usable by all classes, you can easily create a tank wearing robes as glamour.
And then there is the tank gear from the dungeon Shisui of the Violet Tides.

No, there is really no good arguments for any restrictions on glamour.

There could possibly, maybe, be some technical problem with using some glamour where your current job couldn't wear the actual gear piece, but if there is it should be fixed.

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You're approaching from an angle that my stance is tanks shouldn't be wearing robes when my last post specifically states this is not my argument or reasoning.

I just provided a technical constraint as to why you can't take e.g. a lv80 maiming set and glamour it to your healer. The take on "we should just be able to, because reasons." is irrelevant. Sorry. I'm not trying to be rude or combative. Some restrictions are necessary in order to save time among other valid reasons.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

But the jOb fAntAsY!!
*rolls up to fight Hades as a tank in a leopard print bikini*

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Pics or it didn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

You're approaching from an angle that my stance is tanks shouldn't be wearing robes when my last post specifically states this is not my argument or reasoning.

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Then you expressed yourself unclearly. Too many negatives in one sentence probably.

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I just provided a technical constraint as to why you can't take e.g. a lv80 maiming set and glamour it to your healer. The take on "we should just be able to, because reasons." is irrelevant. Sorry. I'm not trying to be rude or combative. Some restrictions are necessary in order to save time among other valid reasons.

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I don't know how the code looks, but there is really very little or no technical reason to have restrictions on glamour. If it is currently not possible, and it would take more than one day to fix it, then they have badly written code in the first place. If anything the code should become simpler and ever so slightly more efficient by removing restrictions on glamour.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

But the jOb fAntAsY!!
*rolls up to fight Hades as a tank in a leopard print bikini*

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Honestly, though, the current restrictions aren't respectful of the "job fantasy" to begin with, even setting aside the glams like that lol. At least if you're me, playing a Dancer, forced to wear shit that's either designed for BRD/MCH, or some combination of the only two artifact sets we have.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Restrictions are kinda stupid for crafters and gatherer's, id love to wear full plate armor while gathering.

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Restrictions are stupid period.

Tanks have myriads of "cloth" options (bikinis) to wear and still be effective but healers are always relegated to robes.

Realism takes a back seat when we can create fire from our fingertips and teleport at will.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Specifically DoH gear. While I have supported restrictions on gear in the past, especially for job and gender specific attire, my grip has loosened a bit for DoH gear and this is why:

• From my observations, very few players actually allocate glamour plates to DoH classes and this leads to these absolutely lovely designs being largely unused.
  
• Players would probably use them more if more glamour plates were available, but this is not the case right now.
  
• I respect development time, and feel it should go towards what players will benefit from. Since time does go into designing DoH specific gear per class every expansion, but not a lot of players use them. I would rather the dev team either do away with it entirely in favor of more available glamour choices/hairstyles, or make these outfits available for all classes so they can be enjoyed by more players when designing their glamour plates for other jobs.

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Hopefully this shows that views can change over time. Even mine. It isn't very broad in this case, but even a little can go a long way. I really like how some of these look on combat classes. Here is the Boltsoph's Swallowtail on my SCH. I really love the look!

https://i.imgur.com/1epCrsY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/y5rM1cQ.jpg

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Neat glam, OP! I can easily see an Alchemist dressing like such, and really it looks like you walked straight out of Full Metal Alchemist. Kudos to you~ ◕‿↼

Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to contribute to the thread, on-topic like lol

I agree with all the views contained therein

My major issue with DOH is that so many classes and up sharing a lot of the same gear. It's easier to manage between archetypes of combat jobs with only 2-4, but all my DOH's wear the same thing and it's a bit annoying to have to have so many plates as I change around.