PvP gets a tournament for each Fanfest again

I'm not gonna comment too much on it, I posted some months ago, that I don't think this PvP is really suitable for PvP Ranked/Competition, but they wanna go for it apparently. So there will be some hype and more casual teams participating.

I would wish there would be something similar for World First Raiders in their race, similar to WoW, willing sponsors should be there..

(Imagine you make 2nd place in a tiebreaker final match and all you get is an in-game title compared to 22.500 USD LOL)

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A team-based Crystalline Conflict tournament for a mode that does not allow you to create a team and play against other random teams, and doesn't allow you to que with a single friend.

Gather 4 friends, create your team and... wait until the FanFest to play your first match? Against the 4-5 teams of NA players that do regular custom matches with each other? Or at best, beg in random PvP discords to be included in some custom matches with players who know left from right with the very limited time left to get any practice.

This is great news for the 15-20 people in NA who regularly organize discord custom matches with each other as it is a garaunteed prize money for them, and will be a fun noob stomping exercise in 1-sided blow-outs. But for the average player or new player interested in the tourney your chances are infinitely approaching 0.

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Originally Posted by Sinstrel

A team-based Crystalline Conflict tournament for a mode that does not allow you to create a team and play against other random teams, and doesn't allow you to que with a single friend.

Gather 4 friends, create your team and... wait until the FanFest to play your first match?.

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EXACTLY THIS! I could not stop laughing for 5 straight minutes when i read this announcement. HOW are you to even practice before this event when you are not allowed to queue with a Team? XD

They did not think this fully through.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

EXACTLY THIS! I could not stop laughing for 5 straight minutes when i read this announcement. HOW are you to even practice before this event when you are not allowed to queue with a Team? XD

They did not think this fully through.

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Custom matches...

they're really trying to cram CC down our necks, huh?

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Originally Posted by Sinstrel

A team-based Crystalline Conflict tournament for a mode that does not allow you to create a team and play against other random teams, and doesn't allow you to que with a single friend.

Gather 4 friends, create your team and... wait until the FanFest to play your first match? Against the 4-5 teams of NA players that do regular custom matches with each other? Or at best, beg in random PvP discords to be included in some custom matches with players who know left from right with the very limited time left to get any practice.

This is great news for the 15-20 people in NA who regularly organize discord custom matches with each other as it is a garaunteed prize money for them, and will be a fun noob stomping exercise in 1-sided blow-outs. But for the average player or new player interested in the tourney your chances are infinitely approaching 0.

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its possible to do some practice with PF

Lol! They are really pulling for the 'new to pvp' players to participate. Las Vegas tickets son~ All you have to do is walk your dude to the end of the line, but this time it's in game!

Last time NA had wintrading drama and in JP basically most teams boycotted the tournament because of other kind of drama. Can't wait to see what happens this time!

Weird decisions regarding PvP from them is nothing new.

At least the prizes are better for 1st place. For those who won the entire thing back in 2018 their sub was paid for 3 entire years.

Other than that I don't know...I'll also have to agree with Sinstrel. It isn't a coincidence that you see some of the same people at the top of the ladder, but besides the cash prize you have additional tickets for fanfest waiting to be claimed. Seeing that it's better than the rank rewards that the top currently receive what serious pvper isn't going to compete for them?

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Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika

At least the prizes are better for 1st place. For those who won the entire thing back in 2018 their sub was paid for 3 entire years. What serious pvper isn't going to compete for them?

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They also got a laptop if I remember right :p Also last time in EU like half of the countries couldn't participate in the Feast version of the tournament and that is why so many of the best players couldn't even take part in it and countries like New Zealand were registered in the EU region so the whole event was kinda all over the place.

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Originally Posted by Nanne

They also got a laptop if I remember right :p Also last time in EU like half of the countries couldn't participate in the Feast version of the tournament and that is why so many of the best players couldn't even take part in it and countries like New Zealand were registered in the EU region so the whole event was kinda all over the place.

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I wouldn't have known all of the details. I was still learning at the time, and after the removal of 8v8 I did not really give feast a chance until after seeing the ending of the tournament. I do have to ask though now that I'm learning about this. Didn't folks in the discord started that tournament originally?

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Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika

Didn't folks in the discord started that tournament originally?

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There were some community tournaments but the FRC in 2018 was completely official and done by SE.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Custom matches...

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Good luck gathering enough willing Teams to create a realistic scenario.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Good luck gathering enough willing Teams to create a realistic scenario.

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Ignore him, he's being paid.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Good luck gathering enough willing Teams to create a realistic scenario.

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to be fair its not that hard i was able to recruit a team with the various discords and PF, it takes a bit of work but its not impossible

Just imagine if the tournament operated in the exact same fashion just like our normal ranked games. Random strangers, random job comps from the application pool, absolutely zero balance. 2 healers, 2 tanks, 1 discount bard VS. 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 dps. I would definitely tune into this s***show with some popcorn on the side.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Good luck gathering enough willing Teams to create a realistic scenario.

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Revival pvp discord.

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Originally Posted by Nikoto

Ignore him, he's being paid.

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Dumb post is dumb.

A tournament that in no way represents how people play the game mode at all (outside the no-reward no-rank mode for extremely niche-within-a-niche players) doesn't seem very interesting tbh.
If anything it'll probably just show how much better matches can be when you can choose to play with your friends.

It'll probably create issues regardless of what they choose to do afterwards though:

If they do nothing, people will complain that they can't earn rewards and rank playing in premade teams even more than before because the tourney cast a big spotlight on that very fact.

If they put it in as a new mode, people will complain that the pvp player base is spread too thin.

If they allow premades with the solo queuers people will complain about being stomped by VC-using premades all day.

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Originally Posted by Nikoto

Ignore him, he's being paid.

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I see, my bad.

I get that they are trying, and I really do appreciate the effort to hype up PvP since it has felt so forgotten about. But sometimes, these announcements just feel so tone deaf and/or stubborn.

It is a great idea to make a tournament event, but Im not sure they realize that with its current structure and current state of casual/ranked play, this event is clearly for a niche within a niche within a niche. (A subniche of the PvP community that is active on discord/social media, and within that niche, those players who actively organize custom team matches on a regular basis).

Sure the tournament is open to everyone, and anyone can use Party Finder to build a team, but lets be totally honest with ourselves here...

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Originally Posted by Sinstrel

I get that they are trying, and I really do appreciate the effort to hype up PvP since it has felt so forgotten about. But sometimes, these announcements just feel so tone deaf and/or stubborn.

It is a great idea to make a tournament event, but Im not sure they realize that with its current structure and current state of casual/ranked play, this event is clearly for a niche within a niche within a niche. (A subniche of the PvP community that is active on discord/social media, and within that niche, those players who actively organize custom team matches on a regular basis).

Sure the tournament is open to everyone, and anyone can use Party Finder to build a team, but lets be totally honest with ourselves here...

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i agree with this sentiment and even though its a step in the right direction it wasnt as well thought out let alone a bit of a late notice however i just formed a team and am practicing with others who have been doing this longer and theres a world of difference but it doesnt mean that within 2 months my team doesnt have a chance much like raiding with a static it takes time an effort with your team, plus the "small subset niche" LP pvp peeps are helpful when it comes to practice, i strongly urge anyone who is interested in this tournament to form a team and take a chance to enter because by not participating or at least trying its only gonna add to the that niche staying that way

Before making an event with prizes, I think they should really consider adding maybe idk an anti cheat maybe ? Now I know what you are gonna say ( But dude, they cant cheat at fan fest ) I know that. but the game itself is completely filled with hackers with add-ons from multiple platform ( I'm not talking about dalamud, I'm talking about these OTHERS add-ons) ... please fix the game square enix... cmon

Very representative of ingame modes.

I don't know a single multiplayer game where their actual esport scene has pros that can't practice on the ladder, but maybe there is some idk

Players do practice in organized games, mostly through discord.