Petition: Fix the Binding Coils item drops from bosses

This is ancient as heck content. I was looking to buy a diagnostics module for my new house [That I paid almost 20 mil for btw, but how crappy XIV's housing market is is a topic for another day] I almost choked when I saw it was damn near as expensive as my house! So I figured "Eh, I'll farm the mats and have my friend craft it for me." Only to discover the mats only drop if it's run synced and the drop rate is ridiculously frickin' low!. SE needs to fix this issue, and I have two propositions for fixing it.

#1, keep the low drop rate but make it drop from running it unsynced too. Again, this is hella old content, aside from some crafters complaining that they can't sell the tables for ridiculously inflated prices anymore there really isn't much harm in this.

#2, make it so it only drops synced but make it a guaranteed drop like the mounts in the later raids.

Both of these are fair compromises to make it so people who want the mats but don't want to farm this crap all day synced and possibly never get rewarded for it don't have to do so.

20 mil is nothing in this game. I'm sitting on 130mil and can't even get a medium.


As for the items dropped from coil bosses. They are rare, and it's kind of nice if it stays that way. Gives people a reason to do things synced. Not like the content is that hard with ilvl changes now.

I had to roll on Dynamis to get my house lol.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

20 mil is nothing in this game. I'm sitting on 130mil and can't even get a medium.


As for the items dropped from coil bosses. They are rare, and it's kind of nice if it stays that way. Gives people a reason to do things synced. Not like the content is that hard with ilvl changes now.

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I agree with this. Even though I don't do much BLU, I do like that it extremely rewards you for syncing the content if you want the spells, and requires it for certain achievements IIRC. IMO I think this was missed in all forms of older content, but if this is how it is for the coils I would like it that way. You want to engage with the story of coils quickly, do unsynced. You actually want the items, sync it!

Good luck syncing it, then winning the roll if you manage to get anything to drop.

My old static wiped for weeks on t2.

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Originally Posted by Imora

Good luck syncing it, then winning the roll if you manage to get anything to drop.

My old static wiped for weeks on t2.

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So much this! And again, if they wanna force people to do it synced, fine. But at least make it a guaranteed drop like the Alexander and Omega Savage mounts are so you only have to run it 8 times to be guaranteed to get the mat you want instead of possibly running it 100 times and never getting it.

Actually, its funny that you said that.

The new Deep Dungeon, Eureka Orthos drops all of the allagan stuff in all sacks. The furniture and other things too. So those prices will drop over time since the deep dungeon just got released.

Only difference is that its deep dungeon and its level 80-90 content.

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Originally Posted by Imora

Good luck syncing it, then winning the roll if you manage to get anything to drop.

My old static wiped for weeks on t2.

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When did you try the fight? When it was current end game? Were you trying to actually do Allagan Rot or the wait for the disco ball? Cause you shouldn't have that much hassle even now to do the disco ball enrage. Even with double shield healers. Heck you could easily get up to T8 with randoms.

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Originally Posted by Gember

Actually, its funny that you said that.

The new Deep Dungeon, Eureka Orthos drops all of the allagan stuff in all sacks. The furniture and other things too. So those prices will drop over time since the deep dungeon just got released.

Only difference is that its deep dungeon and its level 80-90 content.

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I did not know this! How good is the drop rate for the lower floors of the stuff from Coils? I need the plate and the illuminant for my friend to craft the table for me.

I personally don't know a number, but after watching streamers play it and myself; it isn't like a rare drop. Just like Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High; you get a lot of junk, but sometimes you might get a minion or a orchestration scroll. Think of the furniture dropping like those items. But... you have to understand that RNG is RNG, so you may get very lucky or not with your loot.

I did get a shoebill from my first sack, so there is that lmao

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

This is ancient as heck content. I was looking to buy a diagnostics module for my new house [That I paid almost 20 mil for btw, but how crappy XIV's housing market is is a topic for another day] I almost choked when I saw it was damn near as expensive as my house! So I figured "Eh, I'll farm the mats and have my friend craft it for me." Only to discover the mats only drop if it's run synced and the drop rate is ridiculously frickin' low!. SE needs to fix this issue, and I have two propositions for fixing it.

#1, keep the low drop rate but make it drop from running it unsynced too. Again, this is hella old content, aside from some crafters complaining that they can't sell the tables for ridiculously inflated prices anymore there really isn't much harm in this.

#2, make it so it only drops synced but make it a guaranteed drop like the mounts in the later raids.

Both of these are fair compromises to make it so people who want the mats but don't want to farm this crap all day synced and possibly never get rewarded for it don't have to do so.

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This isn't a fix. It's a nerf for your convenience.

I would consider it a "fix" because it's still operating under archaic mechanics that have long since been abandoned for other instanced content.

They retroactively went back and added gear coffers to Coils, so it makes no sense that they left this bit as is when the new standard is that you have better rates when unsync'd, not that stuff doesn't drop at all.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I would consider it a "fix" because it's still operating under archaic mechanics that have long since been abandoned for other instanced content.

They retroactively went back and added gear coffers to Coils, so it makes no sense that they left this bit as is when the new standard is that you have better rates when unsync'd, not that stuff doesn't drop at all.

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Another way to look at it is that if they went with your solution it would be worth whopping 300 Gil on the market board and you wouldn’t had done it, bought it off the MB and destroyed an activity treasure hunters could do to take in the big bucks.

It's been their policy to actively make glam/cosmetic items from previous expansions more accessible since HW either by shoving them into the quick venture pool or making them available through deep dungeon/exploratory zone loot.

Coils just ended up being a weird exception until now where they started shoving the related items into the Eureka Orthos bags, so the prices are going to tank anyways, just not as quickly as they would've via "nerfing" the instances proper.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

It's been their policy to actively make glam/cosmetic items from previous expansions more accessible since HW either by shoving them into the quick venture pool or making them available through deep dungeon/exploratory zone loot.

Coils just ended up being a weird exception ...

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Uhm ... what do you mean? Glam/Cosmetic from Coil have always been readily available 'cause you can get those unsync since Stormblood.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

This isn't a fix. It's a nerf for your convenience.

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*looks at in from the cold*
lol

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Uhm ... what do you mean? Glam/Cosmetic from Coil have always been readily available 'cause you can get those unsync since Stormblood.

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It only got partial treatment since as mentioned, the furniture crafting mats just straight up don't drop in unsync'd parties.

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Originally Posted by Gember

Actually, its funny that you said that.

The new Deep Dungeon, Eureka Orthos drops all of the allagan stuff in all sacks. The furniture and other things too. So those prices will drop over time since the deep dungeon just got released.

Only difference is that its deep dungeon and its level 80-90 content.

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Really? Nice! I gotta tell my alt's FC members. We were running T1 synced a bit ago to try to get the item so one of our decorators could finish up what they were doing with the FC house but I don't know how many runs we did and it never dropped.

Level Blue Mage and kill it sync'd by yourself. :^3

BLU can even kill Twintania sync'd solo.

Me Doing Just That

T2 Enrage method should be no problem :3

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Another way to look at it is that if they went with your solution it would be worth whopping 300 Gil on the market board and you wouldn’t had done it, bought it off the MB and destroyed an activity treasure hunters could do to take in the big bucks.

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And ya know how one of my alts got rich? Not by trying to farm almost ten year old content for shit that has a .5% drop rate. I got rich by farming DR while it was still current for the hair. XD And hilariously the tables were 100k or so when the content was still current. Why did it go up in price? Ironically it went up because almost no one runs Coils synced anymore and the ones who do don't tend to sell the mats if they get them because they have no idea what they are. They discard them.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

When did you try the fight? When it was current end game? Were you trying to actually do Allagan Rot or the wait for the disco ball? Cause you shouldn't have that much hassle even now to do the disco ball enrage. Even with double shield healers. Heck you could easily get up to T8 with randoms.

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Was late ShB, we were doing it min ilvl synced.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

And ya know how one of my alts got rich? Not by trying to farm almost ten year old content for shit that has a .5% drop rate. I got rich by farming DR while it was still current for the hair. XD And hilariously the tables were 100k or so when the content was still current. Why did it go up in price? Ironically it went up because almost no one runs Coils synced anymore and the ones who do don't tend to sell the mats if they get them because they have no idea what they are. They discard them.

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So you have rich characters and you’re here here complaining about a mat that costs 5 million? Saying it costs as much as your 20 million house. I went and checked.

Leave it to rich people to be this stingy lmao.

If you were poor then at least wow maybe he really wants it but I still think people should work for it but you just want a discount.

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Originally Posted by Imora

Was late ShB, we were doing it min ilvl synced.

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Then it still shouldn't be that bad unless you're trying to learn how to pass rot. The enrage is really just a heal check.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

So you have rich characters and you’re here here complaining about a mat that costs 5 million? Saying it costs as much as your 20 million house. I went and checked.

Leave it to rich people to be this stingy lmao.

If you were poor then at least wow maybe he really wants it but I still think people should work for it but you just want a discount.

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It isn't about stingy. It's about the fact that a mat from ten year old content should not be so hard to obtain.

As someone who does a lot of coils synced in PF just for fun... First tier is piss easy even with full party of blind runners. Just make farm party. Even faster with BLU mages.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

It isn't about stingy. It's about the fact that a mat from ten year old content should not be so hard to obtain.

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Why not. Makes people want to do this content synced. I dont see a problem.

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Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy

As someone who does a lot of coils synced in PF just for fun... First tier is piss easy even with full party of blind runners. Just make farm party. Even faster with BLU mages.



Why not. Makes people want to do this content synced. I dont see a problem.

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At the very least the drop rate should be buffed. By a lot