Easy Content Idea

You know what would keep people busy and would be minimal effort and kind of cool. Design a few sick outfits for each expac - ARR, HW, SB and SHB that you can unlock by beating all the new game plus entries for each expansion.

These could be unlocked in the Tataru's Boutique shop thing in Sharlayan or just through an achievement.

You barely have to think anything since it's all there, if it's through Tataru's shop then maybe a few quests about going down memory lane and how recounting the story inspires tataru to design a new outfit and it's not AS monotonous as repeating the same fates over and over plus it adds an incentive to repeat what arguably is the highest quality content in the game, the MSQ.

When 7.0 rolls around, you add one for EW. This would be similar to how the wandering minstrel is inspired to give you new fights after you recount your stories to him.

'Keep people busy' - as someone with multiple Alts, I can tell you that MSQ barely takes any time if you skip all cutscenes. Since you can just unsync all the duties and have flying, that's wouldn't really take much time.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

'Keep people busy' - as someone with multiple Alts, I can tell you that MSQ barely takes any time if you skip all cutscenes. Since you can just unsync all the duties and have flying, that's wouldn't really take much time.

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So be it if you want to speed run it. I'm betting you would go for the outfits right? There you go. It's not a bad incentive to use NG+ and for a lot of us we would take our time and remember details we may have missed the first run.

I think they should provide better rewards for achievement tokens, like actual rewards. Not the hand-me-down rewards that were formerly known as veteran rewards.

If they did -- they would actually encourage people to do more with the game, and partake in more areas of the game, similarly, if they were to implement more creative achievements. People need to be encouraged to interact more with the game, frankly, and the game itself doesn't do that, through reward structures or otherwise. This is the biggest problem.

The game doesn't need more content, it just needs more incentive to replay content, or engage in it meaningfully. All these ideas, whilst nice are ultimately short in the grand scheme of things.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

People need to be encouraged to interact more with the game, frankly, and the game itself doesn't do that, through reward structures or otherwise. This is the biggest problem.

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All these ideas, whilst nice are ultimately short in the grand scheme of things.

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Forgive me but, this is exactly what's being proposed here. A way to interact with the game and use its existing systems to its advantage, it's a similar approach to Elden ring as well sans the difficulty hike because people wouldn't tolerate it around here.

I don't believe these ideas to be short in the grand scheme of things if they keep coming, because it's going to take an agglomeration of these to change the grand scheme of things. So when you add up all these little ideas people suggest here and there, you get a grand change.

I do support your idea to better utilize the achievement currency as well. There should be enough to keep people going for more achievements.

Bro literally just do a new moogle tomestone event every month. Cycle the content for it so it doesn't get stale, shuffle the rewards around, and call it a day. This isn't hard. This is one of the few events they have that encourages people to actually play the game, but they only do it like ... what, twice a year? Meanwhile the game's in sleeper mode 4 months at a time. You're charging people monthly, right? Not every 4 months, right? So just do a moogle event or some kind of "hey come do content for rewards" style event and give people something to do. Or, don't! And watch people quit in droves and then their friends quit because they quit, and their friends quit because they quit, and on and on. Legit no need to reinvent the wheel. Hell, what if they just... uncapped causality tomes and let people actually farm for their alt jobs in a meaningful way? "Oh we don't want to encourage unhealthy grinding" says the dev who had people poopsocking at placards for 16 hours, yeah okay. Imagine if they just took the lazy way out like so many kMMO devs and just did a double drop event or something. Always wanted a glam but never could find it? Now it drops double the glams! Double the tomes! Go get out there and run some content!

Oh, wait. No. Our "events" are an 11 minute story about a guy who... uhm... wants to celebrate a holiday! With an event! And he needs YOU ... to, uhm... talk to NPCs! And convince them to come! There's an emote! And a housing item! You'll like it.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Bro literally just do a new moogle tomestone event every month. Cycle the content for it so it doesn't get stale, shuffle the rewards around, and call it a day. This isn't hard. This is one of the few events they have that encourages people to actually play the game, but they only do it like ... what, twice a year? Meanwhile the game's in sleeper mode 4 months at a time. You're charging people monthly, right? Not every 4 months, right? So just do a moogle event or some kind of "hey come do content for rewards" style event and give people something to do. Or, don't! And watch people quit in droves and then their friends quit because they quit, and their friends quit because they quit, and on and on. Legit no need to reinvent the wheel. Hell, what if they just... uncapped causality tomes and let people actually farm for their alt jobs in a meaningful way? "Oh we don't want to encourage unhealthy grinding" says the dev who had people poopsocking at placards for 16 hours, yeah okay. Imagine if they just took the lazy way out like so many kMMO devs and just did a double drop event or something. Always wanted a glam but never could find it? Now it drops double the glams! Double the tomes! Go get out there and run some content!

Oh, wait. No. Our "events" are an 11 minute story about a guy who... uhm... wants to celebrate a holiday! With an event! And he needs YOU ... to, uhm... talk to NPCs! And convince them to come! There's an emote! And a housing item! You'll like it.

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Yeah. Sure, I mean why not. Instead of devs spending time and resources thinking into how they can restrict and cap our loot they should instead just double down on giving us an innumerable amount of things to do. People will organize and do them by themselves and at their pace so I don't see the point in trying to curate and trickle the content for us.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

You know what would keep people busy

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Why should they try to keep people busy? FF14 isn't intended or designed to be the only game played by its players.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Why should they try to keep people busy? FF14 isn't intended or designed to be the only game played by its players.

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Oh FFXIV is a live service and usually video games are entertainment products people buy to pass time. As for FF14s design all I can tell you is a lot of the user base seems unhappy with the amount of content in between patches and so suggestions are being made in the official forums.

The forums is like a location the developers of FFXIV designated for feedback in case users wants to raise comments, suggestions, or issues they have with the game. Let us know if you have any questions!

Weren't you just in another thread complaining about people wanting re-run events? This is basically the exact same thing.

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Originally Posted by DragonFlyy

Weren't you just in another thread complaining about people wanting re-run events? This is basically the exact same thing.

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Yes, when you rerun events with the same rewards you don’t give anything to the veteran players. When there’s rewards for everyone then we all win.

You’ll notice in that post how the OP was interested in the car. If they want to develop original content then I’d be even happier. But this is a solution to provide something grindy for those who want to keep playing the game and want a new reward out of it.

If it came across as “I want new events instead of the same ones every year” = “never add new rewards as a replay incentive” then that wasn’t my intention.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Forgive me but, this is exactly what's being proposed here. A way to interact with the game and use its existing systems to its advantage, it's a similar approach to Elden ring as well sans the difficulty hike because people wouldn't tolerate it around here.

I don't believe these ideas to be short in the grand scheme of things if they keep coming, because it's going to take an agglomeration of these to change the grand scheme of things. So when you add up all these little ideas people suggest here and there, you get a grand change.

I do support your idea to better utilize the achievement currency as well. There should be enough to keep people going for more achievements.

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they probably mean interact with the world, msq is a single player experience and doesnt affect the game around it

the game feels very dead outside cities cause there is no incentive to just go out and interact with the game, the game is more than just the msq. If anything, there needs to be less incentive for anything MSQ related

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

they probably mean interact with the world, msq is a single player experience and doesnt affect the game around it

the game feels very dead outside cities cause there is no incentive to just go out and interact with the game, the game is more than just the msq. If anything, there needs to be less incentive for anything MSQ related

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I can agree with this sentiment, anything to give life to the overworld. I will counter that there is no need to create a fork on the road. When we can come up with low effort feedback that can give players who want to sink time into the game a reason to do so then there’s no reason they couldn’t all be taken into account, or at least a group of them.

So adding a couple of achievement outfits for NG+ does not mean they can’t also come up with overworld activities.

However, I would encourage you rather than just give reasons for being upset, which I feel are valid, also come out with suggestions to add that would make it better?

What’s a good idea you’d like to see happen?

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Originally Posted by Ath192

I can agree with this sentiment, anything to give life to the overworld. I will counter that there is no need to create a fork on the road. When we can come up with low effort feedback that can give players who want to sink time into the game a reason to do so then there’s no reason they couldn’t all be taken into account, or at least a group of them.

So adding a couple of achievement outfits for NG+ does not mean they can’t also come up with overworld activities.

However, I would encourage you rather than just give reasons for being upset, which I feel are valid, also come out with suggestions to add that would make it better?

What’s a good idea you’d like to see happen?

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There has been countless suggestion, and enough other games to look at where the overworld doesnt feel dead, but its always deflected with "but what if i want to afk in limsa???? i only have time to play 10 minutes per month!!!"

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

There has been countless suggestion, and enough other games to look at where the overworld doesnt feel dead, but its always deflected with "but what if i want to afk in limsa???? i only have time to play 10 minutes per month!!!"

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I suggest we keep them coming, I do get a lot people deflecting or trying their hardest to find a flaw in the feedback to get their gotcha moment or “deny” the suggestion.

But if anything the devs can look at those reasons and ideally design a better system than the one suggested instead of just choosing not to do anything and give the people who don’t want any content the win.

Either way. The game dies when people give up and stop caring about it so until that happens when I think of something I’ll put it here.