My partner is unable to put tickets down on an FC plot. They are receiving the following message.
They have One personal houseQuote:
Lottery entry and plot purchases unavailable. No more land may be purchased on this world by characters attached to this service account.
They have been in our friend's FC for 34 days now
They have not bid on any plots on their account this lottery cycle
They are not an FC owner on any characters
Bug, or have the devs screwed something up? She was able to bid on the plot we won in Mist back in May without issue.
Lottery Bug?
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02-23-2023, 04:36 AMElevinLottery Bug?
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02-23-2023, 04:51 AMPaalHenrik
Sounds like your partner has been flagged. Could the purchaser of the current FC still be in the FC? Are they trying to relocate? I ask because if the original purchaser is still in that FC, only they may relocate.
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02-23-2023, 04:54 AMElevinShe won our original FC house back in March last year. She was able to bid in May on our FC plot but another member won it. She had no issue relocating her personal house several months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaalHenrik
We're trying to help a friend get an FC house, so my partner has 2 Alts in said FC that have been in the FC for over 30 days each.
My partner by all accounts meets all requirements and there shouldn't be any blockers, yet she's flagged as having an FC when she is not an FC leader and has never been an FC leader. -
02-23-2023, 04:57 AMPaalHenrikDoesn't matter if she's the FC leader or not, if her account won a house previously and that specific character is still a member, then she's flagged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elevin
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02-23-2023, 04:58 AMElevinthat is...incredibly stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaalHenrik
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02-23-2023, 05:15 AMStormpeaksI can confirm that yeah, it is stupid, as Paal said, once you claim, you claim for the entire world on that account, you cant claim anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Elevin
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02-23-2023, 05:29 AMElevinDoesn't stop people from having multiple FCs on their account when you can just use a second account to create and bid on FC plots then transfer leadership over and rinse and repeat... it just screws over innocent players lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
well, we are preparing to potentially have my partner leave the FC so the alts can bid if anymore tickets go on. Having to prepare to demolish the FC apartment -_-. -
02-23-2023, 06:18 AMStormpeaksOnly solution is another account, or your partner leaving yeah, it's pretty shittyQuote:
Originally Posted by Elevin
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02-23-2023, 06:49 AMJojoyaThis is what needs to happen so they can help the friend get a FC house. Once the friend has the house, your partner's character can rejoin your FC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elevin
And yeah, it's annoying to have to demolish the private chambers. You can shortcut it a bit by kicking the character from the FC, which will force all their furnishings to get stored at the Resident Caretaker. Once they're ready to rejoin the FC, they can claim the items from the caretaker. That way your partner doesn't have to find storage room for the items until they're ready to put everything back. -
02-23-2023, 09:38 AMCatStarwindDefinitely not a bug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elevin
Though I am genuinely surprised everyone in this thread suddenly understands this restriction. More so at the caginess around the loophole given how this is most likely a genuine rare edge case for its existence. Rather than say, simply render a ward a ghost town for selfish purposes.Quote:
You do not have a character on the same World on the same service account that purchased and maintains a free company plot
* If the character in question purchased the plot, they may still submit a lottery entry for the purposes of relocation.
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02-23-2023, 09:50 AMStormpeaksCouldnt hold back from posting your nonsense again could you ? Had to try and derail yet another threadQuote:
Originally Posted by CatStarwind
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02-23-2023, 10:45 AMElevinIt's a stupid restriction since it doesn't stop me from buying FCs on an alt account and transferring them to my main account lol... all it's done is stop a member of my FC from bidding on an FC plot on an alt character.Quote:
Originally Posted by CatStarwind
But you really make me want to fill my account up with alt FCs now just so that i can take over a ward and annoy you even more :D -
02-23-2023, 02:32 PMCatStarwindThis thread is quite literally about the restriction in place for plot purchasing. I know you've done nothing but gaslight the discussion but this is a bit ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
Uhm, breaking TOS aside, ...okay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elevin
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02-23-2023, 04:39 PMStormpeaksExcept it aint breaking TOSQuote:
Originally Posted by CatStarwind
Good attempt little fella, at least you tried -
02-23-2023, 05:18 PMPaalHenrikStill waiting for you to point out the sections of the ToS that specifically says this.Quote:
Originally Posted by CatStarwind
It is a guidance, not a restriction. If it was a true restriction, SE would have put it in so that once a person has purchased a FC plot, may never do so again. In this case, OP's partner only needs to leave the FC she purchased so she can help bid on the FC plot for her friend's FC. Wouldn't that be breaking the ToS based on your assumptions too?
Serious, off topic question for you. Do you also sit in Limsa, reporting anyone you think is ERPing the wrong way? -
02-23-2023, 07:25 PMReinha
The rule is the same for everyone. There are no fringe cases where it's ok for someone to bid but not ok for someone else to bid. If you have a character that both bought a house and also "maintains" it by staying in the fc, you can't bid. If you don't have such a character, you can bid. End of story. It's not possible to break the rules because the game doesn't allow you to bid if you don't fulfill the conditions, as the OP has described.
According to the rules as they are written and as the game allows you to do:
- OP can bid with any character since he has not bought a free company house
- OP's partner can stop maintaining the house she bought by leaving the fc, and she can bid with any character after doing so
- if OP's partner wins the house for the friend's fc, the friend is still eligible to bid with any character because they have not bought a house
FC leadership is not taken into account at any point. -
02-25-2023, 01:05 PMCatStarwindQuote:
Originally Posted by PaalHenrik
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2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.
They did. It broke things. They rolled it back and relied on players not to abuse it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaalHenrik
I didn't even know there was a difference between role playing online and role playing in person.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaalHenrik
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02-25-2023, 03:31 PMSindele
They never implemented anything that strict, you're reading old threads wrong. The current restriction is the one that was briefly and silently reversed for a time, where new buyers weren't setting off account-wide flags at all.
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07-26-2023, 11:46 PMPepperjack
I too received the same Error report: Lottery entry and plot purchase unavailable. No more land may be purchased on this world by characters attached to this service account. I read these postings and did have the character that won the FC house, leave FC, rejoined, wait the 30 days, reattempt, and the bug still existed. I then removed my other alts and rejoined, waited 30 days, reattempt bid, and the bug still existed. Anyway, since this post is ongoing, it doesn't appear Square will correct the problem even after reporting errors. Housing within the game FFXIV must be Square Enix beast of burden, loving the profit from Store Shop on housing items, but hate fixing this problems within the game for housing. I think all players want the same opportunities as other players. #heavysigh
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07-27-2023, 12:09 AMReinhaIt's not a bug. You shouldn't have rejoined before buying the house. Remove the character that won the house, keep them out of the fc and bid with other characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepperjack
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07-28-2023, 06:08 AMWinglessSeraphimCheck the date of the post.Quote:
Originally Posted by PintyMcEars
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07-29-2023, 12:48 AMStarien
For those just tuning in, here is the official current housing guide (last updated Jan 2023)
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/
The relevant bit here is this:
Maintaining a free company plot means that the character who originally purchased the plot exists in the free company who currently uses the plot.Quote:
You may only purchase and maintain one private plot and one free company plot per World per service account.
There are cases where a character may exist in a free company, purchase a plot, and then leave the free company. This feature ensures that they may be able to purchase a plot for another free company down the road.
This may indeed result in a player having characters/alts on the same service account, each of whom occupies a free company that has a housing plot. However, the purchaser restriction still exists. Work around that as you need to. There are hundreds of FC-only plots available to anyone who desires one across various worlds. -
07-29-2023, 11:36 PMElevinthe relevant bit doesn't even make sense. How does a random FC member maintain a free company plot? The language used doesn't make sense on any level. How does that translate to "The FC member who wins on an FC plot will be unable to bid on another FC plot on a different character on their world whilst still in the FC they won the plot for."Quote:
Originally Posted by Starien
"Maintain" is completely wrong in the context of an FC as that could mean anything since FC plots are essentially collectively purchased most of the time even though there is one winner, the FC overall wins the plot. But said member of the FC who won may not have any control over the FC, not even being able to enter the house ironically...but can still win it. So "maintaining" a plot is completely wrong in this instance. The dictionary definition of maintain doesn't correspond with what any of this line is supposed to mean.
The restriction is ridiculous as it does nothing to stop me from filling up my account with FC plots :) All it does is screw over random FC members who bid and win an FC plot for their FC and want to do something on an alt.
Devs/translators need to stop trying to sound smart, pick up a dictionary and speak plainly because what they said is completely wrong and nonsensical when it comes to what it actually means in English and what it actually is in practice. -
07-30-2023, 03:57 AMPintyMcEarsoops, my bad! thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim