Should series exp only reward points for a win?

As per title do you think reward on win only would destroy PvP? Or would it foster a more competitive PvP community? Also, would allowing pre-mades ruin CC? Bored at work.

True make people actually win a pvp match and not just be afk

It might make people afk less, but I don't think it would change much in the long run. Premades should be allowed in unranked CC and at the very least they should allow duos in ranked.

No, It's a casual reward to encourage people who don't play pvp to engage. If they are afk report them.

Premade is a hard question. Will it affect the queue in casual probably, but maybe that's not a bad thing Ya know?

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

As per title do you think reward on win only would destroy PvP? Or would it foster a more competitive PvP community? Also, would allowing pre-mades ruin CC? Bored at work.

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Asking this question shows a complete lack of understanding of why exp is rewarded at all.

All the rewards of PVP arn't there for the people who like PVP.

Every single bit of reward, every good thing from it, is there as BAIT.

People who like PVP like it for the intrinsic rewards of pvp.

Everything else is bait.

The bait draws in players who don't like pvp.

These people are normally bad at pvp.

This gives people who like pvp easy kills of people who are bad at pvp.

This gives them even more of a power fantasy and makes PVP even better for the people who like PVP.

Take away the rewards, it takes away the bait, it takes away the easy kills, and pvp players only have other people of similar skill level to play against. This makes them not get as many wins, and they stop being happy.

Punishment is too high for most. So taking away the exp for losing will really drive people away from playing entirely. I would avoid going that route, because everyone suffers (see above comment).

As for premades it has its positive and negatives. I'll give one example of each. If you would add duos to crystal conflict I'm pretty positive that it will bring in more players to play the game regardless of how bad things seems to be. Everyone can enjoy suffering with a partner. The downside to this is that it's will be pretty difficult to near impossible to balance around premades. If you're in a premade you play a totally different game than if you were playing solo. So in some sense by adding premades games will never be fair despite the ratings.

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

Asking this question shows a complete lack of understanding of why exp is rewarded at all.

All the rewards of PVP arn't there for the people who like PVP.

Every single bit of reward, every good thing from it, is there as BAIT.

People who like PVP like it for the intrinsic rewards of pvp.

Everything else is bait.

The bait draws in players who don't like pvp.

These people are normally bad at pvp.

This gives people who like pvp easy kills of people who are bad at pvp.

This gives them even more of a power fantasy and makes PVP even better for the people who like PVP.

Take away the rewards, it takes away the bait, it takes away the easy kills, and pvp players only have other people of similar skill level to play against. This makes them not get as many wins, and they stop being happy.

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based on this assertion im probably in the minority where i dont like easy kills, i prefer the challenge, as for the rest i dont think thats the case considering the Garo event saw an explosion of participation in which in order for people to get their mounts they needed to win, and if you look at stat websites the mounts have a relatively high acquisition rate however i do agree about rewards = bait but that can be said about anything

If you want 5 hour queues, or only be able to get games if you get a discord channel for it and organize people to all queue at a certain hour, then sure take away the exp away for losing.

I feel taking away the losing exp would drive people away from PvP. And tbh, if there was a third 'version' of CC, so Casual, Ranked, and Teams, which would only let pre-made parties participate, then it would allow PvP teams to come back, people could do it with their friends, and it would be in its own category with its own ranking system to not disturb the current CC versions.

Not a fan of removing rewards for a losing team, especially not in FL where you often lose due to factors outside your team's control.

2-person premades in casual CC though, yes please, I want to play with my partner!

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

Asking this question shows a complete lack of understanding of why exp is rewarded at all.

All the rewards of PVP arn't there for the people who like PVP.

Every single bit of reward, every good thing from it, is there as BAIT.

People who like PVP like it for the intrinsic rewards of pvp.

Everything else is bait.

The bait draws in players who don't like pvp.

These people are normally bad at pvp.

This gives people who like pvp easy kills of people who are bad at pvp.

This gives them even more of a power fantasy and makes PVP even better for the people who like PVP.

Take away the rewards, it takes away the bait, it takes away the easy kills, and pvp players only have other people of similar skill level to play against. This makes them not get as many wins, and they stop being happy.

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Tbh, I personally never liked the carrot of the stick structure. Based off the feedback I am in the minority but I prefer harsher competition verse easy kills. Maybe having a team queue would be enough sure it might rarely pop.