New Map Mechs Are Too Much

Got the new map for the first time and I have to say I will NOT be playing when this map is up. Its massively unfair for melee. Completely unbalanced and favors ranged. Can't even make it to the crystal because ranged stuns everyone on the mats and then the mats kill everyone. Will be avoiding 100% until changes are made.

skill issue

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Originally Posted by iVolke

skill issue

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Just played the map, it's kinda meh.

The new map is a environment battle, not a pvp match. I guess they tried to make it more "challenging or exciting" but all they did was making it annoying.

pretty fun map. if users find they are having issues with environmental maps, they should work to improve their gameplay.

I find the walls being bit too high more annoying than all the mechanics, some camera angles are just really bad.

The map is not something that should be out when the camera zoom out is far enough out and natcode issues are still a thing, however i still kinda like binding somebody on the mats :)

The new map is good, mostly. Great layout and design, the gimmicks are all cool, but there's too many gimmicks for one map. Should've just kept it to two - tiles and robots, maybe.

Runs from DRG LB and gets miniaturized, MNK knockback into tatami mat and stunned, flipped, survived! Watch him run to the crystal to prevent overtime loss and get 1-shotted by robot zantetsuken. Rank up, win streak. Top 100.

Mini definitely lasts *way* too long. It should be maybe 5 sec at the absolute most, probably just 3. It's way too potent of a debuff for it to last like... what, 12 sec? Absurd.

I'm still just getting used to this map and it's confusing a lot. It was supposed to be fun, but it really is just too much. However, the visual design is really beautiful.

They are trying to catter to the PVE players..you know the one that say " its just pvp " yeah those, the one who dont care whatsoever about pvp, yep

I agree that the map is extremely overwhelming for first timers (it wrecked me until I got used to it, which honestly doesn't require that many games), and that there is too many gimmicks crammed into one map. I do think they could have gotten rid of the two clockwork mammets that bring very little to the map overall. The doors, mats and coins are already a good package to have fun with.

The layout is top tier, I really like it because it offers possibilities for both ranged and melee to shine (where C9 had too little for melee and ranged to dodge fire, and Volcano too much for casters to have a good time). Unlike Palaistra the layout also offers more ways to sneak around and overall turn everything upside down, which can be fun.

I do however think that the front hidden door trick is proving problematic because for some reason everybody rushes through that one in particular, which is literally a mega death trap for the opener of the games there. The place where you end up is literally the worst place you'd want to be when a game starts. And I'm not even speaking of games where some players decide to go through the side door, the rest through the front door, and you're left with a recipe for disaster. Maybe it's not the fault of the map design per se, and more of a player issue, but I do believe that if players keep doing something bad it has at least to be because the design is enticing them to take the wrong choices.

The new map is awesome. Tons of opportunities for really fun plays using the mats/robots/doors. I hope more maps are like this in the future.

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Originally Posted by Valence

I do however think that the front hidden door trick is proving problematic because for some reason everybody rushes through that one in particular, which is literally a mega death trap for the opener of the games there. The place where you end up is literally the worst place you'd want to be when a game starts. And I'm not even speaking of games where some players decide to go through the side door, the rest through the front door, and you're left with a recipe for disaster.

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This has been my only point of frustration with the map thus far, and it's entirely a player issue. Everyone wants to rush through that door then stand around staring at the walls until they get flanked and die. For anyone who does this, please stop.

Yeah the front hidden door is a really bad choice at the start of the game. Not only do you spawn in a corner with your camera jammed against the wall, from that position you can be flanked from the left by enemies taking the side door to their checkpoint, and from the right by enemies approaching from the crystal. You're funneling yourself into a deathtrap.

Unless you're going for some fancy play or a ninja trying to sneak around to the backline, the side door that goes to your checkpoint is a much better option. It puts you a safe position that can't be easily flanked, and you're the one that gets to gank any opposing players who were foolish enough to use their forward door. It even conveniently lights up the wall to inform you of incoming victims.

That said overall I'm pleased with the design of this map too.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

The new map is a environment battle, not a pvp match.

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And this should be removed from rank. It's trash for one. You can barely see where to go because
the camera is horrendous and there is just WAY too many things going on at once and I agree
that the mini lasts way too long. Leave it in norms but keep this crap out of rank until or unless they fix it significantly.

Edit: I can't say much of anything from the design as I can barely see where I'm going with all the crap going and the horrible camera
but from the quick outlook intro that I saw when entering, not bad.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

I can't say much of anything from the design as I can barely see where I'm going with all the crap going and the horrible camera

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Lying on this beautiful floor, you can look at the wonderful decor. But joking aside, I feel your pain. I died there several times because I couldn't figure out where I was and which way to go. And while I was looking at the mini-map, someone was sure to jump on me. There is a lot to calculate on this map and it overloads. Because of this, in my rating, this is the worst map of all possible at the moment. Among other things, I don’t like that at any moment you can actually be squeezed into a corner or be in the enemy’s crowd and simply crushed.