Glamour Dresser Solution: Inn rooms as optional extensions in player houses

I am aware that Glamour Dressers are not going to be available as individual furniture for player housing due to "legacy" code.

However, I thought of a potential way to go over this limitation and as a bonus allow us to finally "sleep" in our own houses.

Give us the option to buy the already existing inn rooms as player housing extensions, working exactly like how the company workshop currently works now:
A separate room without any option to move items/decorate etc. but with actions possible inside them

This can be either a list to choose from amongst any of the inn rooms currently available in the game (my preferred method :) ) or perhaps a completely new one.

If however code limitation is an issue to let the players decide the style, perhaps only allow the local city's inn room, by default.

Entering the inn room can be available either from the existing private room door on the back, or directly from the external door (to perhaps avoid loading the entire house when entering/exiting).


Alternatively, if this is impossible/too costly to make, why not add just an "inn room door" in each ward, maybe in the apartment building? So there is at least a way for player housing to have an easier-to-access glamour dresser, and all player services (armory/glamour/hairdresser etc) to finally be available in the wards

This would be really really lovely, but I think they wouldn't implement it because it would be weird to have an inn room in your home.

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Originally Posted by ameliaw

This would be really really lovely, but I think they wouldn't implement it because it would be weird to have an inn room in your home.

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Chalk it up to glamour
whatever it takes tbh to have glamour dressers in our houses

I'm pretty sure glamour dressers not being accessible through personal or FC houses is not a coding limitation. I think it's just a 'they don't want them there' kind of limitation.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I'm pretty sure glamour dressers not being accessible through personal or FC houses is not a coding limitation. I think it's just a 'they don't want them there' kind of limitation.

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No they've stated before that its part of the game's funky coding. Same with giving us a WoW Transmog system, they tried and wanted to have glamours work just like in there but the game's coding gave them much fuss. Hoping they manage to resolve these issues some day.

Sometimes I wish the FFXIV dev team had a miracle coding expert like Satoru Iwata to get them out of their own messes.

i wish they do this, it's like a dresser room, nobody can come inside if there's someone using it, one at a time

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

No they've stated before that its part of the game's funky coding. Same with giving us a WoW Transmog system, they tried and wanted to have glamours work just like in there but the game's coding gave them much fuss. Hoping they manage to resolve these issues some day.

Sometimes I wish the FFXIV dev team had a miracle coding expert like Satoru Iwata to get them out of their own messes.

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The only thing that makes me think this is a coding issue is that right now all glamour dressers are located in personal instance locations like an inn, or the GC barracks. Personal houses work a little differently as they allow for multiple players to exist inside of it. I still say it's a 'won't' issue because it shouldn't be that difficult to circumvent. WoWs Transmog system is an entirely different animal though. They would have to completely revamp not just one, but several systems to get glamours to work that way. And the more gear they release, the deeper the hole they continue to dig themselves in.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

The only thing that makes me think this is a coding issue is that right now all glamour dressers are located in personal instance locations like an inn, or the GC barracks.

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This seems to be the reason why they do not turn the dresser to an item, and AFAIK why you can't log off and log in inside your house. My idea could be an easy (?) solution since the inn rooms will be the same personal instances as they are in the Inn.

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Originally Posted by ameliaw

This would be really really lovely, but I think they wouldn't implement it because it would be weird to have an inn room in your home.

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I mean they could let us customize our own extra inn room. That would actually be pretty dope. They could always call it something else, and let us use all the inns features at home. It kinda reminds me of the Island Sanctuary but instead would be like an "inn sanctuary". Then again adding our own inn and teleports to the island sanctuary would be an amazing feature.

Doesn’t need to be a full inn room (it would be weird to have that in my small house). They could just make a small instanced dressing room option with only the dresser in it. The GC squadron room also has the dresser in it so it shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

Yeah, its doent need to be called Inn room, I think "Guest room" would be appropiate. I only suggested the current Inn rooms as an easy solution and to visualise what I mean. As for small houses having an extra room not being logical, currently small FC houses can have like 200 private rooms and the airship room, so realism is not really a constraint here.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I'm pretty sure glamour dressers not being accessible through personal or FC houses is not a coding limitation. I think it's just a 'they don't want them there' kind of limitation.

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In a previous Live Letting, Yoshida admitted coding is the exact reason they haven't done this. Multiple people interacting with the Glamour Dresser at once or attempting to move it around caused the entire server to crash due to it having to house so much potential data.

Now I suspect they could fix it or simply have the Glamourer Dresser be in a fixed location but just haven't felt the need to. It's probably in the pile of "when we have nothing else to do".

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

In a previous Live Letting, Yoshida admitted coding is the exact reason they haven't done this. Multiple people interacting with the Glamour Dresser at once or attempting to move it around caused the entire server to crash due to it having to house so much potential data.

Now I suspect they could fix it or simply have the Glamourer Dresser be in a fixed location but just haven't felt the need to. It's probably in the pile of "when we have nothing else to do".

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Exactly this. obviously no "coding" problem is unsolvable, but the returns for the time and resources invested might not make it worth it. Hence my solution, since it would basically just reuse assets that have been already tested.

Would be neat if we did get this in the form of a furnishing that functioned as a pocket room of sorts. There are quite a few ideas that would be fit the bill. I'll see if I can think of a few themed items below that could take us to an "inn room" like room.

Aetherial Tear (like seen in The Chrysalis)
Fuath Doorway (the magic plant doorways like we enter Dohn Mheg from)
Bag of Holding (an adventurer bag similar to the Adventuring Pack furnishing)
Pixie Dream Door (could run off the same logic as the beast tribe location)
The Empyrean Shrine furnishing you get from Heaven on High
(insert something primal-themed with the effects the crafted weapons have here)


It's worth noting that this would also theoretically allow apartment owners to use this feature as well.

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Originally Posted by Reptiletc

Would be neat if we did get this in the form of a furnishing that functioned as a pocket room of sorts. There are quite a few ideas that would be fit the bill. I'll see if I can think of a few themed items below that could take us to an "inn room" like room.

Aetherial Tear (like seen in The Chrysalis)
Fuath Doorway (the magic plant doorways like we enter Dohn Mheg from)
Bag of Holding (an adventurer bag similar to the Adventuring Pack furnishing)
Pixie Dream Door (could run off the same logic as the beast tribe location)
The Empyrean Shrine furnishing you get from Heaven on High
(insert something primal-themed with the effects the crafted weapons have here)


It's worth noting that this would also theoretically allow apartment owners to use this feature as well.

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If you have to change zones, you may as well be teleporting to a main city and going to a real inn :p This is the justification they'll likely use for not doing this. There are 7 perfectly good access points.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

If you have to change zones, you may as well be teleporting to a main city and going to a real inn :p This is the justification they'll likely use for not doing this. There are 7 perfectly good access points.

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Honestly I was thinking that as I typed it sadly. Most it would do is save a bit of running.

Hmm, what about just giving us a glamour dresser furnishing that works akin to the crystal bell?

Right now if you interact with a crystal bell in your house or apartment it will put you into a mini instance while you change your hair/facepaint. I figure the glamour chest could work the same.


The reason I say this is because they mentioned during a live letter that they were having difficulties putting the glamour dresser into other locations and I figured this had to do with the fact that you only find glamour dressers in instanced locations where other players cannot join you (inn rooms and your squadron bay). My thinking is that making it function akin to the crystal bell would remedy this.


Edit: After thinking about it more, I don't understand why the glamour dresser would give issues, but the Armoire works perfectly fine.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

If you have to change zones, you may as well be teleporting to a main city and going to a real inn :p This is the justification they'll likely use for not doing this. There are 7 perfectly good access points.

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Your logic can apply to any "service" provided in Housing "Oh why have a Company Chest/ Summoning bell/ Material supplier you can go to the city" etc etc etc .

The whole point of this post is that this allows the option to use an already existing zone/system used (so from an outside view,should be easier to implement) while allowing players to have finally full services in their own houses.

As it is now, while glamours are a very very important part of gameplay at this point for a lot of players, but they are still stuck using the cities just so they can fix their glamours, despite going through all the hoops to own a personal/FC home.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

The only thing that makes me think this is a coding issue is that right now all glamour dressers are located in personal instance locations like an inn, or the GC barracks. Personal houses work a little differently as they allow for multiple players to exist inside of it. I still say it's a 'won't' issue because it shouldn't be that difficult to circumvent. WoWs Transmog system is an entirely different animal though. They would have to completely revamp not just one, but several systems to get glamours to work that way. And the more gear they release, the deeper the hole they continue to dig themselves in.

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The limitation is the number of databases that can be accessed.
Some of the larger databases are: Battle/Enemy database, Housing database, Glamour dresser, and Inventories.
Having multiples of these accessible at any given time puts strain on the servers, causing lag and potentially booting players out of those instances. This is why you can't apply Glamours in an area that includes enemies you can fight.
Having two of the largest databases together (Housing + Glamours, 400+ slots each) plus the essential Inventories, plus Retainer inventories, all in the same instance, is just too much bandwidth.

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Originally Posted by Aline_D

Your logic can apply to any "service" provided in Housing "Oh why have a Company Chest/ Summoning bell/ Material supplier you can go to the city" etc etc etc .

The whole point of this post is that this allows the option to use an already existing zone/system used (so from an outside view,should be easier to implement) while allowing players to have finally full services in their own houses.

As it is now, while glamours are a very very important part of gameplay at this point for a lot of players, but they are still stuck using the cities just so they can fix their glamours, despite going through all the hoops to own a personal/FC home.

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Except you can't apply that logic to everything. see the post above this one.

That would make sense if the Glamour chest was in the same instance as the rest. This would not be the case if you read my post.


The only way this could affect it would be if the calls became more frequent due to the more accessible location of the Glamour chest, but that honestly doesn't sound possible considering it would be limited by the number of houses (with some being locked to the public natch) and it is something they should be able to handle for a company of this size, and at worst add they could timers like the FC storage already has.

Ultimately I am flabbergasted why anyone would be ok with the current situation anyway. if the current system doesn't work then maybe they should build a new one, and the consumers should not be the ones finding excuses for the company.

I think having a separate dressing room or glamour boutique in the neighborhoods that takes you to a copy/paste instanced area like the inns or FC workshops might work best. (ﾉ^ヮ^)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧
It kind of reminds me of back in the day when FC workshops were introduced and people suggested adding other rooms like a dressing room. I wonder if something like that could work too. (*´∀｀*)

They 100% could do it or fix the system or implement a better one if they wanted to. They just don't.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

I think having a separate dressing room or glamour boutique in the neighborhoods that takes you to a copy/paste instanced area like the inns or FC workshops might work best. (ﾉ^ヮ^)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧
It kind of reminds me of back in the day when FC workshops were introduced and people suggested adding other rooms like a dressing room. I wonder if something like that could work too. (*´∀｀*)

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Those are exactly the solutions I have thought as well!