Remove mandatory tattoos from glamor items

There are already a few examples of this in game and after seeing this set from an upcoming Tataru quest, I feel the need to reiterate this. I cannot stand tattoos, but do not want to take the option away from others, but seeing the arm and chest tattoo instantly makes the set not an option for me.

Image of the set

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...1227_mm_09.png

I think it's just an inescapable part of how gear pieces are built here. You can't add it as an extra option and would have to make a second separate version of the piece to have it without the tattoo. (I'd love an all-round "change one thing about the item" button like the visor button, but for body pieces, though I don't know whether that would be viable to add.)

You could say it's just painted on and you can wash it off later?

I mean I could tell myself that I can "wash it off later" but I still have to see this on my character if I want to use it, which is the main issue. It's more a visual problem than an RP one. It's just such a letdown personally when they make a really good looking piece of glam, but then add one thing to it that makes it unusable. Tattoos literally make my skin crawl.

It's my biggest gripe on the outfit. The way the tattoos stretch when you do any poses is not natural looking. I have nothing against tattoos, have a few myself but a two set top with and without a tattoo would have probably been the best way to go in my opinion.

Agree. Hate the tattooes. I understand that some people like them, but atleast give option to have them removed. (Like the thavnarian turban with the veil.)
I love the tank top in game but never use it bc of the tattoo.

Perhaps they could make a tattoo toggle like the visor

They should just add the tattoos to the character editor. Then everyone can combine tattoos and gear after their liking. But I guess I know the answer why they can't do that and go the way with the gear instead >.>

Taking the tattoos from the armor sets and adding them into base character models would be really nice... I think there is a slight sliver of hope with the 7.0 graphical updates, but I don't expect them to do anything sensible when it comes to character customization.

Honestly...I agree.
I do wish some armor pieces that give tattoos were toggle-able.
It often looks awful on my Hrothgar Alt. Wish I could turn it off.

i agree, i really like the skyworker singlet because its the only tanktop i know of in the game yet it has that annoying tattoo that runs down your arm

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

i agree, i really like the skyworker singlet because its the only tanktop i know of in the game yet it has that annoying tattoo that runs down your arm

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I want to use that glam myself but refuse to for the exact same reason.

Another problem with tattoos is that they look wildly different depending on skin color. If you happen to have a skin color that is fairly close to one of the colors used for the tattoo, you'll have what looks like an unfinished pattern or just specks of mud on your body. Or if there's a stark contrast to your skin color it looks like someone had fun with a permanent marker.
Armor isn't as bad in that regard as it's still 3D and can't blend in that easily and you can dye it. Many armors anyway.

Taking the tattoo of this set as an example, somoene with pretty dark skin will look like they have a bunch of angry-red pimples about to burst. Not a cool look.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

You can't add it as an extra option and would have to make a second separate version of the piece to have it without the tattoo.

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I think that would be a perfectly fine solution, and SE would get to say that they added more outfits per patch. There are so many clothing items that have one or two little things wrong with them which make them go from great to unusable.

I will just add that it is something that looks awful on Xaela, the black paint blends too well with your scales, so it just looks off, even if we assume it is washable paint magically treated to hold for as long as you want, it doesn't help with the scales, it makes these outfits unusable for me, personally.

Agreed. Fake Tattoos make so many interesting glamour pieces unusable because I don't want my character to have tattoos.

Disagree, I'd love to have more tattoo items if it's not possible to have them in the character creator. But I do agree it would be better to have the latter option if that's a possibility, if only so I can have a bunch of them on at once. :D

The nice thing about having them in character creator would be that you could choose different colors instead of being stuck with one that may or may not look nice with your skin color.

All it come down to just having the gear in more compartmentalized form. The issue with tattoo is the same issue with pauldron, cape, toolbelt/satchel .etc. Especially the last one. Oh how I wish for so many good looking piece doesn't look like something a person would wear because they're in a workshop.

I wish they remove tattoos from gear. Any gear that has them I will never use because don't want to have a tattoo on my character.

I'd rather the gear didn't have the tattoo. We should have a "body marks" option in character creation instead.

Especially considering how some races are designed, where the tattoos look stretched, out of place and clash with their fur.

As an Au Ra player I would kill for them to give us two versions of gear with tattoos, one with and one without. The tattoos look terrible on scales like... it's bad and I can only imagine how bad it looks on poor Hrothgar.

I agree tattoo's are stupid. I don't like them in real life. I don't like them in video games. I will never use this glamour because of this.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of tattoos in general, but they look specially ridiculous on Hrothgar due to their overlapping fur patterns (I assume Au Ra have the same issue). There are already some glamours that have "with and without" variants, like the fireglass hoodie, or the Rebel and Urban coats, so adding tattooless versions should be easy.

Bottom line, tattoos should be optional to begin with.

I thought I liked the Skyworker's Singlet with its rad tattoo at first, but when I actually spent money on it I started wishing it was just a regular vest. :p

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Originally Posted by Allegor

(I assume Au Ra have the same issue).

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They do. Vrankyl already mentioned this, but it looks unnatural on both Au Ra and Hrothgar.

On Au Ra it looks spray-painted on, shoddily going over their scales rather than having a design that's made to fit.

On Hrothgar it literally looks like a pigeon pooped on us. Because while Au Ra look spray-painted on, the uniform lines still make sense. Over fur it makes no sense for the lines to be so neat. I know it's a byproduct of it being a videogame with a simple approach to graphics because it's an MMO... but that just makes it all look jarring. They look like something solid is on us.

https://i.imgur.com/xJIQeq1.png
https://i.imgur.com/V6bvFUV.png

Now I'm sorry but this just looks like plastic over us.
https://i.imgur.com/PnMiTQC.png

If there was a way to /visor chest pieces I would agree, but for now I think the best solution is for us tattoo-enjoyers to keep the handful of tattoo pieces available to us and for others to just not wear them.

I want to wear that but they don't look good on dark skinned characters :(

I have no clue if this was said in here, so I will drop it anyway. Be forewarned I am also terrible at explaining things. The models that SE uses are polygonal. That would be your meshes for basically everything. So, a skin texture, for example - this would be applied to a wire-like mesh and then 'made' to look 3D. Before slapping on the final texture, it is also made to mimic the higher quality one to work with low-end PCs better. It isn't just a SE thing, it is a MMO thing because not everyone has a high-end PC. Things like bodies are done this way to lighten processing loads. While it sort of works for human-type characters..I guess. It is pretty awful for any body type with scales or fur. (pretty much what everyone has said.) TL;DR: flat textures slapped on a flat mesh look bad.

On that note, making two versions is very possible and pretty quick. They already have the mesh, delete the extra and call it a day. I have no clue why they don't do this. I like the tattoos, but they need to make some that don't look straight off a skid row tat shops wall of flash. OH. And since I am here, make more gear that don't cover up the legacy tattoo. Or put it in a place that isn't awful. Thanks. :rolleyes:

Agreed. I propose adding a toggle option like the visor's so that we can remove things like these from chests in a thread I made some time ago (see here).

That would open more options for chestpieces in general and to those that like and dislike the tattoos in this case. It is also particularly annoying for the Skyworker's Singlet due to to it being the only tank top in the game with nothing else attached to it.

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Originally Posted by Gendo-Ashina

There are already a few examples of this in game and after seeing this set from an upcoming Tataru quest, I feel the need to reiterate this. I cannot stand tattoos, but do not want to take the option away from others, but seeing the arm and chest tattoo instantly makes the set not an option for me.

Image of the set

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...1227_mm_09.png

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I think it would make everyone happy if body tattoos were a separate character customization options that everyone can turn on/off and choose from differently.

I love tattoos but wish they were separate, yes just like /visor

I hate tattoos... love that piece but they just repulse me so hard... but also i loved a version with both sleeves down and both up. that half-dressed look drives me nuts xD

I like tattoos but they really could use those for character customization not for a glam. It is already a rarity getting face paints too...

The worst they could do is to release another set without those...

Thats already a thing but we don't talk about the m-word here!

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