Other mmos?

What other mmos people in here play that can be played alongside xiv? I need recommendations.

A few mmos that im not willing to try: Wow, new world and elder scrolls online... I don't really like the art direction of them.

Hello Kitty Island Adventure

I agree, don't like the art direction in those games myself which is why I haven't touched them either. I heard people talking about Blue Protocol but of-course its going to have every monetization in it known to man, cash shop, season pass, gacha so that's off my list. So I've just been going between FFXIV and single player games, Pokemon, FFVII Crisis Core Reunion, in a few months Resident Evil 4 Remake (I mean Leon's hot of-course I'm going to buy it), Baldur's Gate 3 in the summer and Diablo 4(If they don't ruin it with aggressive monetization). You could try Phantasy Star Universe Clementine, Final Fantasy XI (Take a look on twitch) or Temtem. Got to get a little creative during these trying times.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

What other mmos people in here play that can be played alongside xiv? I need recommendations.

A few mmos that im not willing to try: Wow, new world and elder scrolls online... I don't really like the art direction of them.

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FFXI for the time being.

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Originally Posted by ThroatDeep

Hello Kitty Island Adventure

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Is this real? I need it to be real

If you have never tried it, Warframe can be fun for a while

It has the issue that the more you play it, the less fun it is, and around Railjack/400hours in, it starts getting terribly frustrating to make any progress. But, just for the gameplay alone its worth giving it a shot, shooting dudes and zooming around is really fun (Also its free to play!)

Not quite an MMO, but I have friends that enjoy both Genshin and Tower of fantasy. Both Gachas that I wouldn't recommend, but might be worth taking a look at why so many people play them, you might like them

If you dont mind P2W being a mayor issue with the game, Lost Ark and BDO have some amazing visuals and fun combat

And a more personal suggestion would be Flyff Universe. Its a VERY old MMO that got a reboot by fans, the grind is kinda like Eureka and it doesn't have anything like daily or weekly quests, so it has no pressure on that kind of stuff. And most of the game is the leveling journey and the people you meet, not so much the endgame

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

What other mmos people in here play that can be played alongside xiv? I need recommendations.

A few mmos that im not willing to try: Wow, new world and elder scrolls online... I don't really like the art direction of them.

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I was playing New World for a bit. I got pretty bored though once I level capped. I think the lack of PvE group structure makes dungeons absolutely terrible. I can't stand ESO combat and they have never made any effort to improve it as far as I know. I don't play WoW as I don't enjoy the fixation on DPS and being a # rather than a player. I was going through these thinking I would have something I could recommend at the end. I can't say any of the games I mentioned are worth the time. Oh I forgot to mention Lost Ark. Good game but blatant P2W always keeps me away. I will never play it. Sorry I am not very helpful here.

Anyone who's into MMO should give Guild Wars 2 a fair try. It is quite different to FFXIV - it's heavily focused on open world. FFXIV seems like 80% of content is at leveling, while GW2 has 95% of content at max level, even though leveling is great fun too.
- There's no skill downsync, you can even do events in low level maps and you'll get lvl 80 loot (you still won't one-shot, your stats are adjusted).
- It's king of all kinds of QoL. Full inventory? There's button which sends all collectable material into your bank. If you have salvage kits, you can clear your whole inventory in 10 seconds.
- Pretty much everything is account-wide. Ascended/legendary equipment is account bound, so you can transfer the good shit in-between your characters.
- You don't really need to bother about having subpar gear, exotic gear is cheap and only 5% weaker than BiS (expect fractals, which requires more agony resistance higher you go, which requires ascended gear). Some stat prefixes are harder to get, but nothing impossible.
- Condi based builds (Conditions = Damage over time). Plenty of different statuses, like fire which stacks intensity, poison which stacks duration but also reduces healing, chill reduces stamina regen and is considered soft CC, so it slightly breaks bosses Defiance bar. Torment deal higher damage if target is moving and so on.
- Professions actually have depth. Each has base profession + 3 specializations which change core of how profession is played + talent trees.
- You can change your build anytime outside of combat.
- Professions have some very distinct features. Mesmer creates illusions and can destroy them in 4 different ways, which do 4 different things. Elementalist switches between elements, completely changing their weapon skills. Ranger has pets, which you can summon only after encountering them in a wild, gotta catch'em all. All professions but elementalist and enginner can swap between 2 weapons sets in combat.
- Map exploration, people are actually in overworld. Also megaservers system, which ensures that you'll find people even in the middle of the night.
- Achievement hunting is great. If you're unsure what to do, you can check achievements and go from there. There's some cool flex glam for reaching achievement milestones, alongside of gold and other valuables.
- Jump puzzles
- Events (FATEs but actually fun, rewarding and populated) bring world to life. Especially some maps have meta events. Hard to explain, basically players in map do various pre-events, which contribute to meta event, then main stuff happens and you all go defend city/liberate village/confront bad guys and so on.
- World bosses
- PvP is decent, definitely better than FFXIV
- WvWvW
- Seasonal events are so much better in every shape and form. Check out Super Adventure Box on youtube.
- Economy is great compared to FFXIV, gold isn't worthless unlike gil
- Some maps have great verticality, Tangled Depths has 3 layers (I still can't navigate the map after 6 years though)
- No subscription. Idk how you buy it, I think you just buy bundle of all DLCs for like 50-60 bucks. It also has generous free trial which has full base game
- There's real money shop, but you can exchange gold for the "premium" currency. I even upgraded to digital deluxe edition using just gold.
- I've been playing on and off since release, honestly don't really remember how good is story. But nevertheless, game has insane amount of quality voice acting compared to FFXIV, which is my main gripe about FFXIV story's execution.
- Comparing Charrs to Hrothgars is like comparing tigers to inbred house cats. Lore-wise, these madcats waged wars against their own gods. And won.
- 99.999% server uptime. No maintenance at patches, servers go only down when DDoS'ed.
- Can't really beat FFXIV in terms of OST, bar is too high, but it's definitely greater than 90% of the games. Check Fear Not This Night, Battle on the Breachmaker and HoT theme.

Only game where I actually like mounts. Mounts in most games, including FFXIV, are just glorified 25%-50% movement speed buffs with your character riding on X or Y (bonus points if they can fly without any restrictions and ruin whole game's immersion). GW2 has different kinds of mounts that do something different. Jackal has short teleports, which are also used in 2nd DLC maps to access some areas. Rabbit has high jump, which, again helps you access some areas. Rolling beetle accelerates with ability on CD or by going downhill. When you crash you lose momentum, but if you're good, you can go insanely fast and even drift. Griffin can fly and gains speed when diving down. So you can jump of the mountain, dive, gain momentum, stop diving and then fly at insane speeds. All mounts are beautifully animated. Also, in 1st DLC, your character learns to use glider.

As a progression, after you get 80, you still gain exp, but it goes into mastery system. It's basically horizontal progression, you learn different stuff, like better gliding, your rabbit mount can jump higher, beetle drifting, utilize specific mechanic in specific map. You can choose what to level first, but some things obviously have prerequisites.

Game is best example of actual horizontal progression:
- Ascended gear that I crafted back when it was released in 2013 is still BiS 'til this day
- You don't ever run in hamster wheel like in FFXIV. Whatever you do, it won't become irrelevant. You can't just wait for content to become old and then one-shot it using no level-sync like in FFXIV.
- Crafting legendaries is experience and a half. Relics are jokes compared to this. Making all ARR relics is I would say about 1/4 of grind required to make single legendary weapon in GW2. It's about 3-6 months for me, you can get most stuff in different ways, so it's never repetitive (unless you make it that way yourself) and you can stop, do something else for week/month/year, and then come back.

Most important point, especially since you're looking for game to play alongside FFXIV, is that GW2, as opposed to FFXIV, actually respects your time. You don't need to run expert roulette 5x a week to cap tomes, you don't need start raiding at week 1 just so you won't end up behind. You don't need to consume content when it's released, just so you can experience it the way it was meant. There's always something to do, and while doing pretty much anything, you get rewarded.

Worst point of GW2 is definitely performance - back when it was released, it ran like shit. Now with more powerful PCs and better optimization it runs better, but definitely not as smooth as FFXIV (servers are still better tho, no snapshots, PvP is actually playable).

Graphically, it's also not the best, but I would say that it's at similar level as FFXIV, with some strengths and weaknesses shifted around.

Don't think other MMOs are worth anyone's time. BDO/LA are P2W garbage. Dragonflight seems to be headed in good direction, but still seems very anti-new players. ESO is not my cup of tea, but some people supposedly like it. New World is dead. Tera is dead, Josh Hayes killed it, thanks Josh. EVE is just excel simulator. Games like PoE aren't traditional MMORPG. Some older games might be good for 1 week for the nostalgia trip, but that's about it. All we can do is hope that Ashes of Creation will end up being decent.

Only play the best.

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Only play the best.

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Hmm your miqo seems different from the one I have. I can't quite put my finger on what it is.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Hmm your miqo seems different from the one I have. I can't quite put my finger on what it is.

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The eyes seem a tad bigger

Tried PSO2:NGS, realized it's not an MMO, but a glorified gacha platform.

Waiting for Blue Protocol, although I fear it may just be another PSO2.

More recently I've found non-MMOs to be a good complement to FFXIV. Been busy building my factory on an alien planet. It has been a lot more fun than crafting in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

The eyes seem a tad bigger

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Definitely the eyes.

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Is this real? I need it to be real

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"Island Adventure" isn't real, but Hello Kitty Online has been a thing for a long time now. I'm not sure if it's online still though, it's been like a decade.

If you want an MMO with the ULTIMATE Character Creator...

City of Heroes Homecoming.

It's an older MMO and was discontinued ( Not because of lack of interest but because the company just...stopped ) but the private server is alive and well. It gets frequent updates too. Actually I might jump back into it myself.

Guild Wars 2, definitely. I wouldn't really want to play two MMOs at the same time, but FFXIV and GW2 really do different things, they don't feel like the same type of game at all.

It's too bad you reject Elder Scrolls Online, as it's a really cool game actually. I get how you feel about the art style though. I feel like the Elder Scrolls series in general tries really hard to make its characters super ugly, and I don't know why. Still put hundreds of hours into Skyrim though. In fact, you know what you should do? Play Skyrim with some graphics mods to make the people prettier. It's a good time! Also get the Inigo mod so you can have a loveable catboi follow you around.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

It's too bad you reject Elder Scrolls Online, as it's a really cool game actually. I get how you feel about the art style though. I feel like the Elder Scrolls series in general tries really hard to make its characters super ugly, and I don't know why. Still put hundreds of hours into Skyrim though. In fact, you know what you should do? Play Skyrim with some graphics mods to make the people prettier. It's a good time! Also get the Inigo mod so you can have a loveable catboi follow you around.

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Kinda ironic that the modding community turn Skyrim into a game that has the best looking characters of all western RPG, and I dare say that probably is still true these day.

GW2 is definitely a good try. There's also, um... Genshin. I don't really like endorsing gacha games but if you find the "anime" style enjoyable it might be your thing. SWtoR is sleepy, but the story can be fun.

I've been playing FFXI recently again after some time away, it's been nice. It's definitely not for everyone though, it's older and much slower. Great story though, one of my faves. ShB was very much a mix of Zilart and Promathia in terms of story, if that grabs you at all.

Otherwise outside of that, I occasionally play LOTRO when I get the urge to go live in Middle Earth, happens a few times a year at least lol. It's been a while since I played SWTOR, but I have played that as well. Both are f2p but not p2w; LOTRO you can get points pretty quickly and I think SWTOR is similar. Nice housing tho, both are easy to get.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

What other mmos people in here play that can be played alongside xiv? I need recommendations.

A few mmos that im not willing to try: Wow, new world and elder scrolls online... I don't really like the art direction of them.

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BDO, but it's boring.

If you like Star Wars stories and a single player focus then SWTOR might be fun for you.

My comfort 2nd MMO was TERA.
Since they just closed it for no good reason I have not found a other one.

I wait for the Riot MMO, but that will need a few more years.

I wanted to give Guild Wars 2 a try and played the free? Part.
But within a week of playing people from China and Russia tried to login on that new account.
The Login name and email were the ones I used everywhere gaming related and I only had these problems with the GW2 account.
So I deleted it and never touched that game again.

I play both LOTRO and SWTOR.

I jump into ESO from time to time, but with about 10,000 hours I am somewhat burned out.

LOTRO is my go-to right now. It is nice to play through while you are reading the books. It is one of those no-pressure games. I believe it also has the largest world in any MMO (and it is still being added to, with the most recent expansion coming out a month ago).

I do like BDO, but I would never touch it. The community is vile.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

If you want an MMO with the ULTIMATE Character Creator...

City of Heroes Homecoming.

It's an older MMO and was discontinued ( Not because of lack of interest but because the company just...stopped ) but the private server is alive and well. It gets frequent updates too. Actually I might jump back into it myself.

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City of Heroes did have a lack of interest. Once it went to F2P, the player base plummeted.

City of Heroes ultimately got shut down because Paragon 'stole' money. They were given cash to produce COH2, but decided not to do so. In secret, they developed some other game in the hope of asking permission later. It failed and, as punishment, they lost COH.

RIFT

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Usually, I return to the latest WoW expansion during the dead periods in FFXIV, but not this time, since they broke my target closest enemy macro. If they fix it, I may go back for a while.

I'm still waiting for Pantheon, Rise of the Fallen.

Going to be awhile, I think. At least at this point, I can forget I paid so much for it.

Id go with GW2, its fun, exploring each zone is engaging, has the best mount system in the genre, has the best transmog system in the genre (imo) and you get so much value for your buck with its only buy once play for free forever model

Been jumping back into BDO every once in a while, theyve been updating it pretty regularly after the ownership/development shift, lots of new classes and some occasional new regions, gearing still a grind/rng fest but theyve added a few optional ways of going about it now.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

"Island Adventure" isn't real, but Hello Kitty Online has been a thing for a long time now. I'm not sure if it's online still though, it's been like a decade.

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Ah sadly it’s not anymore since 2017 :(

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

Ah sadly it’s not anymore since 2017 :(

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I dunno why but Hello Kitty Online reminded me of Robot Unicorn Attack. No relation whatsoever...just somehow popped into my head.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I dunno why but Hello Kitty Online reminded me of Robot Unicorn Attack. No relation whatsoever...just somehow popped into my head.

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Ok that looks amazing!

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

Ok that looks amazing!

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The song WILL get stuck in your head if you play it.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

The song WILL get stuck in your head if you play it.

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That song gets stuck in my head when someone just mentions it. Like right now. It's on super repeat.

I venture back to EQ2 every so often for the joy of decorating my several houses there and for some of the regular events.

I should find another to try just for the hell of it. Unfortunately my PC is an aging potato and can't run much anymore, and PC parts are stupid expensive still.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I dunno why but Hello Kitty Online reminded me of Robot Unicorn Attack. No relation whatsoever...just somehow popped into my head.

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Ah why did you have to remind me of RUA ffs. I had it on my phone for a while after loving the original flash game but I don't think I can restore my purchases since I unlocked stuff on it prior. :(

Took a bit of a break a few months ago and decided to try out guild wars 2 and ended up lasting about 200 hours before dropping it.
I enjoyed exploring and doing hero points especially in one of the expansions, but the game loop wasn't fun to me and being constantly gold hungry drove me away from it. Whether I liked it or not, 14 seems to draw me back in especially after trying out other games including PSO2:NG, lost ark, and new world. Tried those for a bit but nowhere near as long for GW2.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I should find another to try just for the hell of it. Unfortunately my PC is an aging potato and can't run much anymore, and PC parts are stupid expensive still.

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Old parts have nice value as well which can be cheap. Just one example here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AShjrkoZTrc