Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

Everyone will know who to actually give a well deserved commendation to. Hahahahaha! ;)

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Originally Posted by Edelgarde

Everyone will know who to actually give a well deserved commendation to. Hahahahaha! ;)

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To the Mentor obviously. DUH!

I joke. If healer I give to tank, If tank I give to healer, if DPS I give to other DPS.

It switches if I see someone do "Above and Beyond"

If everyone sucks I just give to no one or to the person with the coolest name...as long as it's not some anime/video persons name. Try to be original people.

No thank you.

Why not? Can we also have that one add-on that blocks rmt and rp venue shouts and tells as well!?

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Originally Posted by Edelgarde

Everyone will know who to actually give a well deserved commendation to. Hahahahaha! ;)

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Most of us don’t need another “WoW” possibility of fostering toxicity & it wouldn’t be fair game (leave that for those who does savage however).

The majority of players are too inexperienced/ignorant to contextualize the information a parser gives them. This is evident if you have played other games with highly accessible meters.

The compromise we have now, with a kind of opportunity barrier and a don't ask don't tell policy, is fine imo. If anything, meters are already too prevalent on this game.

Forget damage meters. I wanna see how many clears you have. :p

since this is all just a dream, lets go chaotic. How about introduce negative commendations so that we can shame on bad play; with players whom acquired enough of them being temporarily barred from group content~!

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

since this is all just a dream, lets go chaotic. How about introduce negative commendations so that we can shame on bad play; with players whom acquired enough of them being temporarily barred from group content~!

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so toxic. let's go! :p

Imagine caring about commendations in 2022/3

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Imagine caring about commendations in 2022/3

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*locks a mount behind 3k comms*
Now grind it out, don't forget to pay for that subscription! (plus mogsgation tip!)

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

since this is all just a dream, lets go chaotic. How about introduce negative commendations so that we can shame on bad play; with players whom acquired enough of them being temporarily barred from group content~!

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Hell yeah. I'm all for this. Give my first negative commendation to Io Eos. Balmung players. Yeesh.

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Originally Posted by Edelgarde

Hell yeah. I'm all for this. Give my first negative commendation to Io Eos. Balmung players. Yeesh.

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Balmung is best!

They'd never add damage meters, at this point it'd be almost disrespectful to most players - they've let them get carried for hours and hours, then they're gonna suddenly shove evidence of their own ineptitude in their faces? Rude.

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Originally Posted by moroarda

They'd never add damage meters, at this point it'd be almost disrespectful to most players - they've let them get carried for hours and hours, then they're gonna suddenly shove evidence of their own ineptitude in their faces? Rude.

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make it more rude and have it play Argath's line "Does it grieve you, to see the depths of your own weakness laid bare? maggot!!"

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

make it more rude and have it play Argath's line "Does it grieve you, to see the depths of your own weakness laid bare? maggot!!"

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I wish. Emotional harm is just as good as physical harm to Renalt.

There isn't any point. If you aren't doing enough damage, you will wipe to enrage. If you are and you do mechanics, the boss will die. It's quite simple.

Devil May Cry rankings with unlockable sound packs let's go.

I would gladly trade my allegiance to the Immortal Flames to hear Mommy Merlwyb berate me for my shoddy performance.

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Originally Posted by Vencio

Most of us don’t need another “WoW” possibility of fostering toxicity & it wouldn’t be fair game (leave that for those who does savage however).

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Here is the kicker you rarely run into people that whine about the performance of others just cause often it is because they are under performing.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

To the Mentor obviously. DUH!

I joke. If healer I give to tank, If tank I give to healer, if DPS I give to other DPS.

It switches if I see someone do "Above and Beyond"

If everyone sucks I just give to no one or to the person with the coolest name...as long as it's not some anime/video persons name. Try to be original people.

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I give it to the person i think played the best, whether its the Dancer who correctly LB1/2'd the last trash pack instead of holding it for the boss or the healer who magically carried a terrible tank.

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Originally Posted by Vencio

Most of us don’t need another “WoW” possibility of fostering toxicity & it wouldn’t be fair game (leave that for those who does savage however).

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Knowing who is dead weight and treating them as such isn't toxic, what's toxic is being the dead weight

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Knowing who is dead weight and treating them as such isn't toxic, what's toxic is being the dead weight

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for once i agree with you fire.

People who don't even put the bare minimum effort in to learn the job they play, and get carried through content, regardless of difficulty, are incredibly toxic.

WoW has entered the forums.

This is a satire, right?

Also, WoW must be popular to be a punching bag on so many occasions. How commendable.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

This is a satire, right?

Also, WoW must be popular to be a punching bag on so many occasions. How commendable.

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WoW gets a commendation.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

This is a satire, right?

Also, WoW must be popular to be a punching bag on so many occasions. How commendable.

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My sweet baby WoW is a punching bag big buncha bullies i can't use my third party ugggghhh h8 this game /s

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Originally Posted by Saranade

WoW has entered the forums.

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As a former WoW player, believe me, this isn't anywhere near WoW levels of toxicity.

Granted, my scale may be skewed, I was around for the heyday of Barrens Chat.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

The majority of players are too inexperienced/ignorant to contextualize the information a parser gives them. This is evident if you have played other games with highly accessible meters.

The compromise we have now, with a kind of opportunity barrier and a don't ask don't tell policy, is fine imo. If anything, meters are already too prevalent on this game.

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Agreed, and the biggest thing a lot of players dont understand is that a parser isnt going to help much for the vast majority of XIV's content. Parsing is mostly an FFLogs side game.

XIV is mostly about mechanics, the vast majority of wipes are due to people eating mechanics and most raids in XIV dont have DPS checks or phase skips that are difficult to clear. You can probably count on one hand the number of battles that have tight DPS checks.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

This is a satire, right?

Also, WoW must be popular to be a punching bag on so many occasions. How commendable.

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Right? All this talk makes me want to find a WotLK Private Server and play it again.

i want one added purely to see the chaos that would ensue. it'd be pretty entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Tiramu

Agreed, and the biggest thing a lot of players dont understand is that a parser isnt going to help much for the vast majority of XIV's content. Parsing is mostly an FFLogs side game.

XIV is mostly about mechanics, the vast majority of wipes are due to people eating mechanics and most raids in XIV dont have DPS checks or phase skips that are difficult to clear. You can probably count on one hand the number of battles that have tight DPS checks.

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From my experience on then current savage content, mechanics count more in the long run than tight dps checks. You cant clear a dps check without the party doing the dance first and foremost with little to no error. Its a heck a lot harder for groups to fully understand their part in that dance and memorizing mechanics without dying. Once thats figured out, the dps checks usually always clearable.

This is of course saying as the majority rather than the absolute.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Knowing who is dead weight and treating them as such isn't toxic, what's toxic is being the dead weight

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I dunno, I have a hot take for you.

I've blind progged numerous MINE Ex and Savage raids. I dont consider myself particularly good. I might go as far as to say that I suck half of the time and am passably decent the other half. In other words, if I can do it, anyone can. People need to stop being babies and just get on with it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

As a former WoW player, believe me, this isn't anywhere near WoW levels of toxicity.

Granted, my scale may be skewed, I was around for the heyday of Barrens Chat.

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I miss Barrens Chat. I would hang out there for hours. Part of the reason I moved to Balmung. It's the closest I've got to Barrens Chat that wasn't exactly that.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

From my experience on then current savage content, mechanics count more in the long run than tight dps checks. You cant clear a dps check without the party doing the dance first and foremost with little to no error. Its a heck a lot harder for groups to fully understand their part in that dance and memorizing mechanics without dying. Once thats figured out, the dps checks usually always clearable.

This is of course saying as the majority rather than the absolute.

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Thats kinda what Im getting at. I know there are some nasty dps checks out there, but for most content you just need to know how your job works and learn the mechanics and jobs a good'un.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

To the Mentor obviously. DUH!

I joke. If healer I give to tank, If tank I give to healer, if DPS I give to other DPS.

It switches if I see someone do "Above and Beyond"

If everyone sucks I just give to no one or to the person with the coolest name...as long as it's not some anime/video persons name. Try to be original people.

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Whoa.

That's almost exactly the same way I decide, Renalt. The only difference is if most people choose to be silent, I give my recommendation to the one person who said hi.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

No thank you.

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I feel the same way. I despise damage meters and not because they show me my deficiencies.

I appreciate that information because I'm the kind of player who likes to do well. My goal was always to place in the upper 15%.

No, it's because so many people can't interpret the data and use the damage meters solely to castigate others.

I forget comms even exist most of the time, honestly.

If any of you get me in a party, don't comm me. I already have the mount, I don't need the ego-stroking.

The only time I care that I get comms is if everyone give me one and I'm on DPS. Means I was either the best in the group by a huge margin, or they all took pity on me. Either is a win. Lol

No thanks.

Damage/heal meters are toxic.

Quit Overwatch 2 when they added the stats page.

Stats don't ever tell the full story, and it encourages bad play.

They are fine in games where K/D matters.

But damage/heal meters encourage poeple to top the charts rather than actually play properly.

For example, I have seen plenty of healers 'top' the charts in games I play, but they are playing absolutely woefully. Their heals are mostly them opting not to remove themselvs from crap. Same with DPS. High DPS is great, but not if you are putting yourself in the way of death.

Then you have people bitching if you don't do a job (as per the stats), etc.

No to Meters<but yes to changes to the current in-game measures the SSS, or BField. something that at least teaches players something.., though of course actually doing/completing said content does more for that.>

asides that, no to negative comms. but add a new subsection to comms/type of comm that you can select alongside individual comms.., A TeamPlayer/Team cooperation Commendation.<The more there is, the more at the very least you can give a decent gauge of a player being able to do well with the group with no qualms>
but in the end, it's not like we can see each others comms in game with ease. so nonissue

We’re all pressing buttons. What’s the difference?



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