Please move crstal tower raids to main scenario

It just makes sense at this point, they're required to progress and because of that fact they weigh heavier than the other fights, they always pop up.

also, you have a joke of a rotation in these fights, which is another reason they're annoying to run through.

truthfully as someone who's been playing for years...i'm just tired of seeing the crystal tower, i dont know how many times i've ran them but i've done it enough, it isnt even fun at this point, it creates an annoyance that borders on anger, having the screen go black to load then hearing the first notes of those fights make me sad now.

meanwhile the fight knowledge of the mhach, ivalice and nier fights is terrible, players dont know them because they never see them, BECAUSE that terrible tower always grabs everyone.

Something needs to be done, but I disagree that this is it. The whole balance of MSQ roulette is that it's three duties which are equally long and (un)desirable – putting in the quicker CT raids leads to a risk of people fishing for them and more generally diverting people from the four-man duties.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Something needs to be done, but I disagree that this is it. The whole balance of MSQ roulette is that it's three duties which are equally long and (un)desirable – putting in the quicker CT raids leads to a risk of people fishing for them and more generally diverting people from the four-man duties.

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Imagine saying Castrum is as long as Prae or Porta

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Originally Posted by Acelyn

It just makes sense at this point, they're required to progress and because of that fact they weigh heavier than the other fights, they always pop up.

also, you have a joke of a rotation in these fights, which is another reason they're annoying to run through.

truthfully as someone who's been playing for years...i'm just tired of seeing the crystal tower, i dont know how many times i've ran them but i've done it enough, it isnt even fun at this point, it creates an annoyance that borders on anger, having the screen go black to load then hearing the first notes of those fights make me sad now.

meanwhile the fight knowledge of the mhach, ivalice and nier fights is terrible, players dont know them because they never see them, BECAUSE that terrible tower always grabs everyone.

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Alliance roulette is fine as is

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Something needs to be done, but I disagree that this is it. The whole balance of MSQ roulette is that it's three duties which are equally long and (un)desirable – putting in the quicker CT raids leads to a risk of people fishing for them and more generally diverting people from the four-man duties.

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Since the rework and splitting of the MSQ dungeons; they're all pretty close in duration now, and quite comparable to normal dungeons. Meridianum takes about 20min, Prae at 27min, and Decumana at 15min. Which averages out to the typical runtime of a CT raid as well.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Alliance roulette is fine as is

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And thats why this subject repeatedly shows up on the forums at a similar rate to the housing issues...

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Originally Posted by UkcsAlias

And thats why this subject repeatedly shows up on the forums at a similar rate to the housing issues...

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Just because it comes up ad nauseum doesn't mean it's an issue. It just means people are stupid

I wish they would remove MSQ dungeons from mentor roulett. Or at leats give the msq rewards if you get it.
Anyway crystal tower could need to some reworks to make it moreninteresting again, even for new players its not really interesting and nobody understands the boss mechanics.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Just because it comes up ad nauseum doesn't mean it's an issue. It just means people are stupid

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That differs a lot per issue. And the easier it is to understand, the more likely it is an issue. But its true, in some cases it can be inverted, where the issue is just being pushed while it shouldnt (you should not give the very vocal 1% an advantage over the silent 99%, they are silent for a reason). But even in that case, it stillidentifies there is an issue (even if only 0.01% is affected).

And just like the housing situation, the complaints can be plain wrong as they focus on the wrong aspect (the lottery system is not bad, its the lack of houses that make your odds patheticly poor, caused by simply not having enough supply. And regardless of used system, that issue is the real cause. Placard clicking doesnt change this, it only shifts the balance - in a bad way).

For the ARR raids, its clear there is an issue, but what the solution should be... that can differ. Personaly the best solution to me would be just that they get rebalanced so in difficulty they match the later raids again. But yeah, for someone who wants to just beat the MSQ, reworking it to an MSQ duty might be better. And some just want a quick reward so dont want changes (and this quick reward could be handed out in a diffirent way so they still wouldnt miss out). There are a lot of things to consider here. But this clash of oppinions shows there is an issue.

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Originally Posted by UkcsAlias

For the ARR raids, its clear there is an issue

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Again, there is no issue. Read, can you do it?

Being 24 man content instead of 4 man, SE may prefer not to merge CT into MSQ roulette.

Making a separate roulette for just CT would probably be a better solution. Most players who spam roulettes aren't going to object to getting an extra level a day. Considering the increasing number of jobs in the game, having that extra source of XP would likely be appreciated even by those who claim to hate CT.

Imagine waiting for 24 other people to do a MSQ roulette. . . . Keep in mind that they recently made the other MSQ dungeons 4 mans and NPC accessible, and therefore it doesn't mix very well number wise.

The solution should be an opt out option for the CT raids. The O N L Y time an opt out player will get it is if its a brand new player running it for the very first time, and the queue is in need of players. It won't cater to Free to play players spam repeating it because its the only thing they can do, relic grinders, won't deal with other players who are leveling alt jobs, or those doing their item level cheese strat. To me, I think that is more fair, and the opt in and opt out isn't going to hinder those players who want to do CT because its simply faster.

You want CT raids fixed? I got some solutions for you that arent "shove it into the roulette I don't want to touch anyways".

1.) Rescale the fights. Defensive stances are gone, Cleric Stance is gone, every equipment piece has Vitality and potencies are like 25-50% higher than back in ARR.
2.) Cap the item level to the corresponding raid tier's maximum available (90-95 LotA, 110-115 ST, 130-135 WoD). The minimum item level is 40 item levels below that, just to reference how much we are overpowering the raids (70-80 item levels over the minimum of LotA on average, 85 is maximum)

Other side things:
- adjust the exp of higher level raids (Lv60+) and maybe some of the scaling (Void Ark for example)
- dynamically change the requirements of Alliance Raid roulette based on the job selected

Explanation to the bold text:
- At Lv50-59, need at least 2x CT series unlocked and their minimum item level reachable.
- At Lv60-69, need all CT series and at least 1x Mhach raid and their minimum item level reachable.
- At Lv70-79, need all CT + Mhach series and at least 1x Ivalice raid[...]
- At Lv80-89, need all CT + Mhach + Ivalice and at least 1x Nier raid[...]
- At Lv90-99, need all CT + Mhach + Ivalice + Nier and at least 1x Myths raid[...]
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You get the point. It is not fun queueing into LotA / ST and seeing some smug fella going from half HP to full knowing full well what they did.

Not going to all the main scenario roulette dungeons is 4 man now. I don't think they're going to make CT 4 man. It's fine how it is now plus it helps out new players that need it. Easy fix if don't like getting CT in alliance raid roulette don't run it. Queue for the alliance raid in party finder that you want to run. I hate getting any of the Heavensward alliance raids but don't want then removed from it. Roulettes is for players to help new players with their duties they need.