6.28 Patch Notes

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a104c1961a5c87

I see alot of good buffs for ranged and casters, alongside with PvP buff that SMN can use their LB through wall...

That Phlegma buff tho, holy hell xD that's not a 20 potency buff!

They'll keep nerfing nin in pvp until monk and drg are the only melees worth playing, again.

Oh yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

That Phlegma buff tho, holy hell xD that's not a 20 potency buff!

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Phlegma Balls...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...png?1667267742

fell cleave

Garbage adjustments

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Phlegma Balls...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...png?1667267742

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Can’t wait to snotter on people with extra potency now

PVP changes always making the PvE changes look dull and boring.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

They'll keep nerfing nin in pvp until monk and drg are the only melees worth playing, again.

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Dunno but MNK's at least in frontlines are the WORST DPS in the entire mode. With the def % buff to every class even at max BH you cannot get a kill with your combo+LB anymore.

my word all that gear made dyable
granted they have already reused it but still a nice change,
I wonder if they did that because of the tactics ogre remake.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Dunno but MNK's at least in frontlines are the WORST DPS in the entire mode. With the def % buff to every class even at max BH you cannot get a kill with your combo+LB anymore.

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Monks literally can't die and all they have to do to be useful is instant transmission to someone, push them inside them inside their team then transmission back, they are literally the best melee in frontline actually.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Monks literally can't die and all they have to do to be useful is instant transmission to someone, push them inside them inside their team then transmission back, they are literally the best melee in frontline actually.

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No they don't, I play exclusively Frontlines almost everyday and I never see a single MNK doing something useful besides being a meatshield or feeder, their combo deals little to no damage.

You are telling me that you are going to dive in between 10 players to push a random enemy to your team to get an assisted kill? that's never going to work against decent players.

Go check the damage output after every match its a miracle if they can deal more than500k damage per map.

Maybe they are fun to play in BR because you can troll and push people outside the bridge.

Right now the top Melee DPS classes in FR are DRG/NIN/SAM/RPR.
There is no reason to play MNK right now when you can roll an entire alliance as NIN.

Mao does little happy dance. BLMs can do bit more burninatings.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Dunno but MNK's at least in frontlines are the WORST DPS in the entire mode. With the def % buff to every class even at max BH you cannot get a kill with your combo+LB anymore.

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I don't know what kind of MNK you fight with but they're still pretty tanky and you won't win 1v1 with them... With this buff, they're getting stronger and tankier :eek:

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I don't know what kind of MNK you fight with but they're still pretty tanky and you won't win 1v1 with them... With this buff, they're getting stronger and tankier :eek:

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Welcome to Frontlines a mode when you have to fight 48 players on screen and you are never going to duel someone 1vs1 unless you are playing off the objective. Why play as MNK to be tanky when RPR/NIN exists? their ultimate's are more useful than bringing out someone off guard (RPR does it in a AOE and charges it quickly) they deal more damage, can secure kills, NIN can stun you from range, DRG can play as a "range job" and Reaper its literally unkilleable if you rotate your CD'S properly.

Before the PVP DEF% patch, MNK were extremely dangerous because no matter what job you are they could 1 shot you with max BH with no effort.

No PvE Dancer buffs? I thought the Phys Ranged jobs were getting buffed because of the whole 'ranged tax' thing, surely that applies to Dancer too?

Only 1 healer buff and looks like Yoshi is showing his favoritism again lol.

They buffed MNK in PVP?! They really didn't need to have even more survivability.

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Originally Posted by SorrowsEnd

Only 1 healer buff and looks like Yoshi is showing his favoritism again lol.

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Would be nice if other healers besides sage got some love

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

No they don't, I play exclusively Frontlines almost everyday and I never see a single MNK doing something useful besides being a meatshield or feeder, their combo deals little to no damage.

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People pay attention to what others do in Frontlines? *scared that somebody has seen how awful I am*

Did you know they want NIN to play somewhere between black mage and garbage mage at some point? Just you wait, this is only the beginning.

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

No PvE Dancer buffs? I thought the Phys Ranged jobs were getting buffed because of the whole 'ranged tax' thing, surely that applies to Dancer too?

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DNC was before this patch higher than SMN, RDM, MCH, AND BRD in damage, surprisingly. The changes to guaranteed d.hit crit skills had pushed them up on the damage scale.

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I'm hyped for the gear that's made dyeable, I hope that means they figured out how to unscrew all those sets without having to make brand new items with the dyeable flag toggled to on.

Also I'll definitely take this as a Tactics Ogre Collab lmao

Tactics Ogre is so good, I wish there were more games like it ; ;

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Originally Posted by Alpheus

I'm hyped for the gear that's made dyeable, I hope that means they figured out how to unscrew all those sets without having to make brand new items with the dyeable flag toggled to on.

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I'm very excited about that too! Not so much for the specific sets (though the "priest" robe/dress and boots are nice) but for the wider potential that this is probably the first step to doing it for everything.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm very excited about that too! Not so much for the specific sets (though the "priest" robe/dress and boots are nice) but for the wider potential that this is probably the first step to doing it for everything.

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Yea definitely

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Originally Posted by Ishe-P

Tactics Ogre is so good, I wish there were more games like it ; ;

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I'm hyped for Reborn, particularly because it was always less popular than FFT, which means if they're putting in this much work into Reborn I'm wondering and left excited for what it'd mean for revisiting FFT whenever they get around to that.

Kaiten's still not coming back. All is well.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

People pay attention to what others do in Frontlines? *scared that somebody has seen how awful I am*

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Match finished.
Look up the scoreboard
Filter damage/Kills

Not really that hard, also when someone its doing good you can see a big red mark over their names.

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

No PvE Dancer buffs? I thought the Phys Ranged jobs were getting buffed because of the whole 'ranged tax' thing, surely that applies to Dancer too?

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Why would the easiest job in the game get a buff?

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Originally Posted by Libby9

Why would the easiest job in the game get a buff?

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What are you talking about? SMN just got a bunch of buffs?

We really don't know how impactful these changes are going to be so generally this is more speculation.

Phys Ranged:
It doesn't look like enough to me but it's something I guess, We will see later down the line how certain jobs perform
"when reviewing the balance of dancer in relation to other physical ranged DPS jobs, we decided it would not require such adjustments."
Seems like they consider dancer the bar for damage output they want phys ranged which if you ask me dancer doesn't even do enough total damage, compared to the melee dps, I don't think dancer nor phys ranged should be on par with melee but they shouldn't be far off, Bards and machinists changes look very lacking to me... I really dont think Dancers damage is the bar for phys ranged.

For casters:
Smn/rdm always very different to discuss compared to other jobs, hopefully they're ahead a bit, although I kinda want Red mage to be ahead of smn just because RDM generally struggles with less mobility, then again I don't know yet. BLM Hopefully now at least competes with melee dps damage, I generally think casters got ok changes.

Warrior(Tank):
I guess they're waiting on PLD's general changes in 6.3, shame as I feel like they could have done with a little boost but makes sense, I really hope they make PLD's general kit just better right now theirs no reason to bring a PLD because DRK/GNB outshine it in tanking ability and damage output, that ontop of being clunky and complex with no reward kinda stings (although its rotation is actually very fun so I'm worried about any changes), Warrior likely needs more then what it's been given, I don't really want it ahead of PLD... guess we will see. I don't know In general about warrior changes, but I believe they're good, Personally I think they need to generally change tanks overall in 7.0 the current tank job design is somewhat of a mess.

Can't say I'm too happy with the changes but they're good changes, my problem is they don't look to be enough.

I'm fairly certain they said "we will reconsider how we balance range from now on"
I don't think that was including 6.28 tho

WAR just gonna get potency fluff but what it really needs in damage buff on IR

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

Would be nice if other healers besides sage got some love

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Would be nice if they got more then just a damage buff, all healers.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

We really don't know how impactful these changes are going to be so generally this is more speculation.

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Current estimations from Balance are as followed:

Warrior: 1.25%
Reaper: 2.3%
Sage: 1.4%
Bard: 0.7-1%
Machinist: 3%
Red Mage: 1.8-2%
Summoner: 1.7%
Black Mage: 1.5%

Overall, they will have very little impact on the current landscape. Not to say they aren't good buffs but they won't shake anything up. Reaper being the sole exception. It's buffs are actually fairly substantial, and may allow it to crack into the Melee meta again. As for the remaining jobs, this doesn't move the needle. Red Mage will be noticeably behind, Warrior may pull ahead of Paladin but both will be outclassed by Dark Knight and Summoner, the Prange are all still very weak as is Sage.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Would be nice if they got more then just a damage buff, all healers.

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A rework would be ideal! yes, yes. :D

Recently though, I got a foot pedal, and I must say it's far nicer tapping out (dosis) 1111111111111 with my right foot, then my finger. It's freed up my left hand for QEWASD a lot more.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Welcome to Frontlines a mode when you have to fight 48 players on screen and you are never going to duel someone 1vs1 unless you are playing off the objective. Why play as MNK to be tanky when RPR/NIN exists? their ultimate's are more useful than bringing out someone off guard (RPR does it in a AOE and charges it quickly) they deal more damage, can secure kills, NIN can stun you from range, DRG can play as a "range job" and Reaper its literally unkilleable if you rotate your CD'S properly.

Before the PVP DEF% patch, MNK were extremely dangerous because no matter what job you are they could 1 shot you with max BH with no effort.

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I do play Frontline daily as well and I play all jobs. MNK is about picking target to push your target to your group and defeat them. Earth Reply can give you full heal and >15k AoE damage to melees and tanks, even bigger on ranged. Gap closer gives good mitigation and has 3 charges that you can gap closer to your team and there's no way you die in pack easily.

I don't doubt NIN/RPR are tanky but IMO RPR has the weakest damage over all melees.

BLM buff is meh. SMN one is OK. RPR is interesting. I don't really play MCH or the others so I can't really comment on them.

lol wish they would stop giving the top 100 in CC rewards. Lets be real, they are all bots, cheaters and win traders.

As for DNC buffs..... they over sold the patch in advanced i guess.

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Originally Posted by Libby9

Why would the easiest job in the game get a buff?

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Ease of play should have absolutely nothing to do with job balance.
Especially when every job has been made incredibly easy.