Will Krile become the poster child for Beastmaster?

Or something akin to that next expanaion?

I thought I'd ask this since she'll be the focus for the next expansion and since she somewhat follows the original FF5 Krile's background up to a certain degree, I thought maybe she'll become a Beastmaster or something like that come the next expansion considering her Echo allows to talk with animals.

Actually, yeah I would love it if she was the beastmaster. How freakin awesome would that be.

Considering Beastmaster is most likely to be slated to become a limited job, I think it's unlikely Krile will become one. I do expect her to get a job change and become a trust in the next expansion, but I strongly doubt it will be Beastmaster that she will become.

Necromancer. If her echo lets her talk with animals that's a Lenna character trait and Lenna made a cameo as Necro. So Necro it is.

It'll probably be Geo or Chemist tho.

Geo and BST are highly requested. But I think a XIV specific job is more likely.

I cant see them adding more jobs personally, they're struggling balancing what they already have.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

I cant see them adding more jobs personally, they're struggling balancing what they already have.

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Yoshida has said many times that they know they can't not add jobs with expansions, so you're pretty off base here.

i feel like theyre scraping the bottom of the barrel with jobs since many of them which they drew from ff3 and ff5 (and to an extent ff4 and 8), there's a lot of them that are just "X job but better" or "X job but slightly different) (think thief & rogue) or have mechanics in them that can't really be translated to an mmorpg. for example geomancer in ff5's abilities were dependent on the terrain you were on (overworld, forests, caves, etc). both jobs in endwalker are essentially XIV originals, with sage being a classic ff reference in name only (sages in ff3 just could do white, black and summon magic, tellah the sage in ff4 was a master of both black and white magic). honestly i'd rather them just do their own spin of a job instead of arbitrarily limiting themselves because "it wont be faithful". they could've just done blue mage (and had its job quests be about you learning monster magic. i don't hear anybody crying that dark knight doesn't use HP for their abilities despite that being their signature ability in FF4.

anyway next expac jobs will be either a tank+caster or tank+phys ranged. they have always released a melee (or melee-lite in the form of a tank) in an expansion.

ninja was released in ARR
HW had dark knight
SB had samurai
SHB had gunbreaker
EW had reaper

they'll need a cool badass melee job to use as the posterboy for the expansion. since it was paladin's turn this time, expect either ninja or gunbreaker to be the posterboy for 7.0

same goes with that response.[edit:to what aniya said]
things have always changed, they for sure will at least at some in the next 5 years.
but they might be offshoots of existing classes<maybe Ala sch>. but we will never know.

<but yeah, BST is already limited, and we won't ever have Geo, or Chem. due to similarities to existing classes and NPC jobs.>
Though a certain job, a samurai we know took on, could work, but that in itself is already close to Geo, without geo, despite being Blatantly different.
though a Magical Melee and or Dynamis User. or a Scout/Ranger-Rouge/tactician amalgamation may exists in scout gear can exists.

so much can exists.
but as to the thread itself.
who knows what krile will grow to.
But it'll definitely have to deal with all that she has dealt with.

Like the visions, and flashes/pain.
<imagine she goes all green ranger, and fades. just to come back renewed.>

we can only see.<but she may just be a custom Main Cast Class. which tbh, she could have a custom Summon> but that doesn't really move her beyond what she already is or could already do.

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

i feel like theyre scraping the bottom of the barrel with jobs since many of them which they drew from ff3 and ff5 (and to an extent ff4 and 8), there's a lot of them that are just "X job but better" or "X job but slightly different) (think thief & rogue) or have mechanics in them that can't really be translated to an mmorpg.

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FWIW in an interview for XI this year he was asked about future jobs for XIV and said that going forward they'll all likely have to be original as there isn't much inspiration to pull from anymore.

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they'll need a cool badass melee job to use as the posterboy for the expansion. since it was paladin's turn this time, expect either ninja or gunbreaker to be the posterboy for 7.0

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Or Summoner, since it was changed to be the most mobile, active caster and would lend itself well to a CGI scene. Also "posterboy"? Yoshida has made mentions earlier this year that the WoL for 7.0's trailer might be a woman, so uh... might wanna reconsider that phrasing. lol

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

Considering Beastmaster is most likely to be slated to become a limited job, I think it's unlikely Krile will become one. I do expect her to get a job change and become a trust in the next expansion, but I strongly doubt it will be Beastmaster that she will become.

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It doesn't have to be. Look at summoner, just make the beast jars like that with customizable skins.
Though i've warmed up to blue mage of late, if we actually got beast master with full pet control like the ff11 days i'd actually find that very fun

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

Yoshida has said many times that they know they can't not add jobs with expansions, so you're pretty off base here.

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While we're on this, wasn't it also said that new jobs added would be original ones?

If Yoshida is gonna go with original jobs of their creation, then maybe something beastmaster-esc could work for Krile. Like with the whole Summoner thing being pointed out above.

What if Krile takes a piece of a animal, monster, etc essence and essentially use that bit to go into a trance state that allows her access to all of their abilities temporarily? Like how Bahamut used to work with the trance system back in HW. Could also make for a nice nod to her experience being possessed by Hydealyn.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

I cant see them adding more jobs personally, they're struggling balancing what they already have.

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well they solved that issue by making everything have 2 min burst.

and they can't sell an expac without having a new dps job because the playerbase thinks tanking and healing are hard.

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

Yoshida has said many times that they know they can't not add jobs with expansions, so you're pretty off base here.

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Because of course, what yoshi p says always comes true! Meanwhile two races still can't use headgear. I'm sure balance will improve with intern-san having to do two more jobs. Or maybe theyll become more homogenized to cut back on workload, probably the latter.

That being said, there isn't really much to be gained from new jobs being added. The one limited job we have is essentially forgotten content at this point, so adding another isnt going to help things (because content in xiv is a zero sum game). And with regards to the regular jobs, we're already at the point where practically every single FF job has representation or a direct equivalent already, hence them having to add reaper and sage which arent even FF jobs (or just barely). I'd rather they fix the messes theyve already created (see limited races/state of job design) than move onto the next new thing to create another expansion rush, but each to their own

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Or something akin to that next expanaion?

I thought I'd ask this since she'll be the focus for the next expansion and since she somewhat follows the original FF5 Krile's background up to a certain degree, I thought maybe she'll become a Beastmaster or something like that come the next expansion considering her Echo allows to talk with animals.

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I'm not sure about Beasmaster... Not a caster is so out of her league, and regarding the original reference, in a recent interview they said that the references from previous FFs are meant to be their own thing in XIV, as in, not necessarily following the source material in every way.

However, I would find very likely for Krile to take the mantle of the new caster job that is inevitably coming in 7.0, especially because her current job is a generic 'mage', as per her journal entry.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

I cant see them adding more jobs personally, they're struggling balancing what they already have.

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Balancing is only really an issue right up at the top end of high end content and they seem to be working through that. They cant not add new jobs because pro gamers at the top end of the game find a 1% dps difference.

Do we even know IF Beastmaster is going to be a THing?
If I remember correctly YoshiP said that 7.0 moving foreword they want to start making Unique Jobs. So unless we get something akin to Beastmaster, we arnt getting Beastmaster.
I just dont see it myself

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Originally Posted by Lustre

Because of course, what yoshi p says always comes true! Meanwhile two races still can't use headgeear.

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Yes, when he speaks about jobs, coming to the game he produces, directs and calls all the shots for I am pretty certain he knows what he's talking about. Jobs are an expectation of expansions, they are the quintessential feature that denotes a main patch as an expansion and adds to the hype and PR. Furthermore, jobs being added to the game has nothing to do with the state of Viera and Hrothgar hats and hairstyles. As the combat/balance/job design team are one in the same and are separate from the character and gear design teams. We know this, comparing the two is nonsensical because they're completely different departments with separate tasks, training and workflows within the team and they have admitted that they do not cross-train.

I too wish they would focus on and fix the issues with the current roster of jobs we have, as the problems are glaring, egregious and often-times inexcusable. Which is why I suspect we'll only see one job for 7.0, as they've already announced overhauls for DRG, AST and a 6.3 overhaul for PLD. I have a feeling as the 6.X series goes on more cracks and fractures will appear for individual jobs and they'll have to re-address most if not all of them in some capacity.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Do we even know IF Beastmaster is going to be a THing?
If I remember correctly YoshiP said that 7.0 moving foreword they want to start making Unique Jobs. So unless we get something akin to Beastmaster, we arnt getting Beastmaster.
I just dont see it myself

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It might, but maybe the reason we haven't heard about it is because they saw how BLU was received and are cautious. Or bc no one asked him, so he never felt like he had to reply :p

But they said they wanted to make Unique Jobs. Some people seem to have interpreted it as wholly new, never before seen stuff in the franchise. But it could also be new takes on existing concepts.

What that means for Beastmaster I don't know. It could mean we'll have it in a different iteration, or it might mean they won't do anything that has already shown up elswhere. One thing to keep in mind is that the dev team doesn't seem fond of designing pet classes due to the issues the framework has in dealing with them. So if we don't get BST, it might be due to that.

All the players know for sure is Krile will be more involved so there is a chance she will spearhead a new job class and they will keep adding job classes as that's a big part of retaining their concurrent players.

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

Considering Beastmaster is most likely to be slated to become a limited job, I think it's unlikely Krile will become one. I do expect her to get a job change and become a trust in the next expansion, but I strongly doubt it will be Beastmaster that she will become.

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This. There's no way she doesn't end up in the trust system with something new.