Interview with Yoshi Final Fantasy 14's Naoki Yoshida on creating the ultimate MMORPG

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"In my eyes, the ultimate ideal is not 'playing all the game content' but 'being able to choose what content you want to play."

Pretty weird thing to say when you make a 10 years old quest chain mandatory to unlock an unrelated current content.

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Originally Posted by RukoBoshi

"In my eyes, the ultimate ideal is not 'playing all the game content' but 'being able to choose what content you want to play."

Pretty weird thing to say when you make a 10 years old quest chain mandatory to unlock an unrelated current content.

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Which one was that?

(Leaving aside that ARR won't be ten years old until next August, because that's just nitpicking.)

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Originally Posted by RukoBoshi

"In my eyes, the ultimate ideal is not 'playing all the game content' but 'being able to choose what content you want to play."

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I agree Yoshi P. Let my Blue Mage play what it wants. *Sardine Toss*

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Which one was that?

(Leaving aside that ARR won't be ten years old until next August, because that's just nitpicking.)

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Well, there is the entire Rabanastre raid series in SB to unlock the Bozjan content. Similarly, there is the requirement for the completion of Hildibrand questline in order to unlock the upcoming relics.

That being said, I do think it's a bit hyperbolic, and I don't really think this 'direction' should really preclude or be used to undermine the outlook the director/producer has, given that it is done fairly moderately, and seemingly 'appropriate' for the direction that they want the relics to go in. - It's a fairly healthy 'requirement' in the grand scheme of things as it entices players to take part in the content they may not have otherwise touched if there is an incentive behind it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Which one was that?

(Leaving aside that ARR won't be ten years old until next August, because that's just nitpicking.)

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Hildibrand, it's an exaggeration but it feels weird to me to have multiple expansions worth of content be necessary to unlock new content and then say that people are free to choose what they play.

Not particularly bothered since i enjoy Hildibrand and i'm up to date, but i still feel it's weird to promote variety when said variety can get locked being content requirements.

From what I got from a Content Creator covering it..,
it's more like Getting Certain wary demographics to try the game. and ease them into new content they may not realize they enjoy, or open them up to the idea if they choose to, one day.

though I do understand how it could be semi-restrictive, counter/conflictive to itself.

A person may not bother trying with something if they aren't sold on it, via ads, friends, or nudges with Content and rewards.
<like with Solo Players, if they only do the story, the majority of the game will be a deal breaker, or not worth the price. hence the changes>

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Which one was that?

(Leaving aside that ARR won't be ten years old until next August, because that's just nitpicking.)

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Technically you could argue XIV goes against that statement to its very core, since it's designed around forcing you to do the MSQ before anything else.

I’m sick of the propaganda interviews. Have not seen eye to eye with “the king of final fantasy” for some time now and I’d rather see him work to improve the current state of things than continue reading interviews that serve little to no meaningful purpose.

Dragonflight releases November 28. With the game the way it is now, can’t imagine retaining much of the WoW crowd or what few of them remain here.

from what I read so far, people can hopefully calm down at the "if it wasnt obvious" statement that Yoshida made about IS based on current feedback.

<ahem and claps hands> he said they're going to continue to improve on it.

For me, if they ever update it to where customizing the island's facilities and other buildings become a free form grid based system I'll be happy.

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Originally Posted by RukoBoshi

"In my eyes, the ultimate ideal is not 'playing all the game content' but 'being able to choose what content you want to play."

Pretty weird thing to say when you make a 10 years old quest chain mandatory to unlock an unrelated current content.

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"You see, these types of things are tied to the fact that we're extremely particular about Final Fantasy 14's story"

It's both.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I’m sick of the propaganda interviews. Have not seen eye to eye with “the king of final fantasy” for some time now and I’d rather see him work to improve the current state of things than continue reading interviews that serve little to no meaningful purpose.

Dragonflight releases November 28. With the game the way it is now, can’t imagine retaining much of the WoW crowd or what few of them remain here.

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Yoshi P lying in an interview about FFXIV's design in order to make himself look good??

noooo....never....

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I’m sick of the propaganda interviews. Have not seen eye to eye with “the king of final fantasy” for some time now and I’d rather see him work to improve the current state of things than continue reading interviews that serve little to no meaningful purpose.

Dragonflight releases November 28. With the game the way it is now, can’t imagine retaining much of the WoW crowd or what few of them remain here.

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Ehh, not going to lie I very much hope the WoW community returns to their game and stays put, clean out the sludge and give FFXIV devs a good kick in the butt and change their gears when numbers plunge.

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Originally Posted by Hanayumi

Ehh, not going to lie I very much hope the WoW community returns to their game and stays put, clean out the sludge and give FFXIV devs a good kick in the butt and change their gears when numbers plunge.

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This is why Yoshi P himself usually refuses to badmouth WoW and likes to credit them. You know that Ian, Yoshida, Josh, and whoever is the director for ESO probably talk to one another. If you pay attention in there Dragonflight initial release they when far to talk about how they play there game(valid criticism that Yoshi P gave them) and (unless you were a druid or a priest) the alpha/beta has had a lot more communication than previous alpha/beta passes.

If the competition does well it means that you can(usually) ask for money to keep up. WoW getting back on its feet would be a Net Positive for FF XiV as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd

This is why Yoshi P himself usually refuses to badmouth WoW and likes to credit them. You know that Ian, Yoshida, Josh, and whoever is the director for ESO probably talk to one another. If you pay attention in there Dragonflight initial release they when far to talk about how they play there game(valid criticism that Yoshi P gave them) and (unless you were a druid or a priest) the alpha/beta has had a lot more communication than previous alpha/beta passes.

If the competition does well it means that you can(usually) ask for money to keep up. WoW getting back on its feet would be a Net Positive for FF XiV as a whole.

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Yup, as someone who closely follows WoW, I'm somewhat impressed with the way a lot of their dev team seems to be communicating with their playerbase and their decisions in WotLK and Dragonflight that feel overly positive from all the interviews they've done with many of its long time players.

Very obvious that the team has finally looked into their competition and with their still recent troublings within their company has hopefully been providing that kick in the rear to genuinely change their course.

We'll have to see come Dragonflight's release and beyond to see if this bears fruit but more competition is always good

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Dragonflight releases November 28. With the game the way it is now, can’t imagine retaining much of the WoW crowd or what few of them remain here.

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Mate, word of advice? Id think twice before buying an expac to a game that has personified the words "buyers remorse" over the last five years

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I'm somewhat impressed with the way a lot of their dev team seems to be communicating with their playerbase

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https://media.tenor.com/kuWgRPBDCdQAAAAC/lol-lmfao.gif

Many lessons western developers like the ones in WoW can never understand since they unironically believes raiders are special and everything else should have inferior rewards not realizing that this mentally just ruins the game for casuals and people who dare not raid.

Always happy to hear what a better ideology Yoshi has compared to many western mmo devs

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Similarly, there is the requirement for the completion of Hildibrand questline in order to unlock the upcoming relics.

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This got confirmed where?

From the informations we have, the Relic is around Godbert and Gerold. I don't see any requiremend in Hildibrand questline. Gold Saucer was also not attached to it.

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Originally Posted by RukoBoshi

Pretty weird thing to say when you make a 10 years old quest chain mandatory to unlock an unrelated current content.

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This problem have almost all games. The devs want, that if they put content into the game then almost everyone should consume it. It is a financial decision. If they invest money then they want a return of this investment. :)


Cheers

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

This got confirmed where?

From the informations we have, the Relic is around Godbert and Gerold. I don't see any requiremend in Hildibrand questline. Gold Saucer was also not attached to it.

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The requirement was announced in a live letter (image):

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The quests will begin in Patch 6.25, so those of you who’ve yet to catch up on all the Hildibrand sidequests may want to get caught up before then.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

This got confirmed where?

From the informations we have, the Relic is around Godbert and Gerold. I don't see any requiremend in Hildibrand questline. Gold Saucer was also not attached to it.

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Here you go.
https://cdn.fanbyte.com/wp-content/u...600.jpg?x48911

Unlocked in 'Somehow Further Hildibrand Adventures'

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

This problem have almost all games. The devs want, that if they put content into the game then almost everyone should consume it. It is a financial decision. If they invest money then they want a return of this investment. :)


Cheers

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I mean with the way this game loves to dictate story with almost all forms of content. It was expected. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask its own playerbase to do a very easy questchain that can be done in a day with cutscene skipping if you didn't care for the story anyway. Especially since they announced this was gonna be a thing months ago, people had plenty of time to do it if they care about diving into relic quests immediately.

Actually surprised to find people whom haven't done it since there's a couple of trials locked behind it and that's content.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Dragonflight releases November 28. With the game the way it is now, can’t imagine retaining much of the WoW crowd or what few of them remain here.

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Only if, by the term "the WoW crowd" you mean the sudden influx of players from that game after the disaster that is Shadow Lands. There are some of us who played both WoW and FFXIV concurrently. Me, for instance. It was no longer worth my time to play WoW back when BFA came out, so that's 4 years worth of WoW I haven't been playing.

The need to retcon the entirety of the lore about Dragons in their next expansion sounds like "meh, I'll pass" to me.

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Originally Posted by RukoBoshi

"In my eyes, the ultimate ideal is not 'playing all the game content' but 'being able to choose what content you want to play."

Pretty weird thing to say when you make a 10 years old quest chain mandatory to unlock an unrelated current content.

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Jobs come to mind.

XI should be the blueprint of how to tie jobs into lore, without needing to do a billion missions to unlock it.....

Then again, I could always buy a job boost ticket to unloc......Ahhhhhhh........I see..........

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Originally Posted by RukoBoshi

"In my eyes, the ultimate ideal is not 'playing all the game content' but 'being able to choose what content you want to play."

Pretty weird thing to say when you make a 10 years old quest chain mandatory to unlock an unrelated current content.

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Yes. And thanks to this, all that MSQ content has to be catered to all the players who'd rather just spend their time with Island Sanctuary, Housing, Fishing or other non combat features.