The Glamour options FFXIV needs: Glammable hairstyles and facial features!

Hi everybody!

After finishing my current glam it once again hit me:

We can not glam to the fullest without being able to glam hairstyles and -colors along with facial cosmetics. In fact glamming as a fun activity for creative character expression is severely diminished by this.

The reason is simple: the way your overall glam looks is massively influenced by your choice in hairstyle and facial features.

Here's an example:

https://i.imgur.com/82a1Say.jpg

My Gunbreaker glam along with a fitting combination of hairstyle and markings in my estimation, it goes well with the vibe of an industry worker.

But then when I switch to my Samurai glam, oh my god! Pure catastrophe:

https://i.imgur.com/MyfJZJz.jpg

The pigtails not only horribly clip, the bangs also block the view of the headpiece and the hairstyle overall is neither thematically nor shape-wise appropriate for this glam anymore, same with the soot stains.

If along with changing your glam you could also change those cosmetic features as well, this would be amazing:

https://i.imgur.com/moJxqGd.jpg

Much better imo!

What the lack of such a glam option currently leads to in practice for many people is they either

1. use a combination which fits their main and then are willing to look worse than they could with any other glam OR

2. they compromise by using just a generic hairstyle and makeup selection for every glam, which doesn't achieve the possible greatness of a more refined style for each glam OR

3. they glam exclusively such gear which inherently fits their choice of barbershop options or use helmets to hide their hair and faces, severely limiting their options.

There might even be people who run to the barber every time they change their glam, which would be incredibly annoying!

Those are all tradeoffs which hurt the joy of glamming, compromises which need not be made ! IF we had a system to glam those parts of our characters as well naturally.

There are some ways to go about implementing this feature but the most sympathetic one to me would be this:

Introduce a new option at the barber! In addition to just the makeover for the price of 2,000 Gil you may also have Jandelaine store the look in a prism for you for the price of 20,000 Gil and a Glamour Prism (or both for the combined cost).

https://i.imgur.com/vyNktH9.jpg

You can then slot in this special prism to your glam plates:

https://i.imgur.com/CMlOdkD.jpg

As you can see I put a little roman numeral to distinguish between multiple of those items. The info could be found in the item description as well.

It seems like an intuitive solution to me, one which doesn't exclude the barber NPC or a Gil sink.

As far as I'm aware there is no lore reason why we shouldn't be able to alter our features with glam like that at least I hope there isn't! :D

This is perhaps my number 1 requested feature! What do you all think?

Bump, because I'd love something like that.

Yea that would be great.

That's never going to happen lol. I'm pretty sure there's something in the code for how character models are saved that would prevent a real time swap like that. There's a reason the barber loads you into the character creation screen.

While I am definitely on board with saying this SHOULD be a thing, I also know it can never be under the current system.

Proposed solution: more updos like Gyr Abanian Plait

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Originally Posted by Ransu

That's never going to happen lol. I'm pretty sure there's something in the code for how character models are saved that would prevent a real time swap like that. There's a reason the barber loads you into the character creation screen.

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Ok, then a short loading screen! It's worth it to me.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

While I am definitely on board with saying this SHOULD be a thing, I also know it can never be under the current system.

Proposed solution: more updos like Gyr Abanian Plait

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An actual solution would be to allocate resources to fixing the technical issue and I would personally be all for it!

Additional hairstyles are no solution at all unfortunately :(

This thread is Jandelaine erasure.

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Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy

This thread is Jandelaine erasure.

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What do you mean exactly? Do you have to go to him every time you switch gearsets? I think that is not a worthy presence for an NPC - to be linked to an annoyance.


(I assume you read the thread and know that Jandelaine is still involved every time you need a new aesthetician prism.)

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Originally Posted by Eisi

Hi everybody!

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Your glamour is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Anienai

Your glamour is awesome.

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Thank you fellow Hellsguard ♥

I care about Glam a bunch which is why this issue with the hair and makeup comes up for me a lot :D

I'm all for this getting implemented, since I don't really want to have the same hairstyle on my healer that I use with my tank outfit.

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Originally Posted by Eisi

An actual solution would be to allocate resources to fixing the technical issue and I would personally be all for it!

Additional hairstyles are no solution at all unfortunately :(

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I won't say it isn't possible. Highly unlikely in the present time, but certainly not impossible in the near future. I once thought they would never actually add flying to ARR zones, and they did it. And when thinking in terms of the next 10 years as the dev team claims they are, then I do think that this is something that they will need to eventually address.

However, the gravity of this project needs to be understood. The dev team is already in a kind of debt as the game is still owed female Hrothgar, and both sexes for Viera and Hrothgar need their CC brought up to at least where the other races are at. They need to accomplish these things before they can even think about revamping the CC and glamour systems as both would need to take place in order to fulfill just this hairstyle-->glamour plate request. And this was precisely why I opposed adding any new races prior to Viera and Hrothgar, and now here we are.

Due to the enormity of the task, my proposed solution was more hairstyles. I recognize the juxtaposition with that, but I mentioned updos specifically because they prevent clipping while still giving the impression your avatar has long hair. It's a compromise, which is something we as players must do.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I won't say it isn't possible. Highly unlikely in the present time, but certainly not impossible in the near future. I once thought they would never actually add flying to ARR zones, and they did it. And when thinking in terms of the next 10 years as the dev team claims they are, then I do think that this is something that they will need to eventually address.

However, the gravity of this project needs to be understood. The dev team is already in a kind of debt as the game is still owed female Hrothgar, and both sexes for Viera and Hrothgar need their CC brought up to at least where the other races are at. They need to accomplish these things before they can even think about revamping the CC and glamour systems as both would need to take place in order to fulfill just this hairstyle-->glamour plate request. And this was precisely why I opposed adding any new races prior to Viera and Hrothgar, and now here we are.

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I agree, I think the best thing for the health of the game would be to finish Viera and Hrothgar first, it is the more pressing need. Female Hrothgar > Viera/Hrothgar headgear > better character customization options for Hrothgar and then all other races > Hairstyle/Makeup on glamplates. That's how I would rank those customization issues personally in terms of importance for the game.

Would be nice if the graphical overhaul came along with a bunch of those, I sense it might be a great chance to tackle some technical issues along with it!

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Due to the enormity of the task, my proposed solution was more hairstyles. I recognize the juxtaposition with that, but I mentioned updos specifically because they prevent clipping while still giving the impression your avatar has long hair. It's a compromise, which is something we as players must do.

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That is one of the compromises I mentioned:

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Originally Posted by Eisi

2. they compromise by using just a generic hairstyle and makeup selection for every glam, which doesn't achieve the possible greatness of a more refined style for each glam OR

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You want a better generic hairstyle which you can use for all glams, right? I see your issue and hope you get a non-clipping long-hair style which you aesthetically prefer over the ones we currently have.

For me personally that's not an issue I have and my problem would not be addressed by adding new hairstyles.