Frankly, Im done...

I love me some pvp, toxicity and all.

But with the "balancing" that was done, the gacha game on the team mates, the heal spam, the self sustain of certain classes, the server tick, and the horrid MMR, and the BURST that you need to kill one person, the INFINITE CC...

Why do I bother anymore, the rewards are MEH at best. If the pvp was more about a good brawl then just getting CC'd into next expantion it wouldn't be this depressing.

It seems to really not be very popular atm, I fight the same people every match and/or get people that seem way out of my range (top 20 crystal players or low golds instead of my actual rank) I think it’s pretty fun at times but…they didn’t even add new rewards to get more people trying out ranked :/ I only tried ranked this season bc I wanted the diamond title, i only did casual before. Now that I have it and have seen what the matchmaking is like in diamond rank and even plat I don’t know if I have motivation to continue lol

Servers are weird too, I’ve had recuperates go off too late, guard not go off, etc.

I think they need to add some more changes to make sure CC doesn’t die

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Originally Posted by nighttimebunny

It seems to really not be very popular atm, I fight the same people every match and/or get people that seem way out of my range (top 20 crystal players or low golds instead of my actual rank) I think it’s pretty fun at times but…they didn’t even add new rewards to get more people trying out ranked :/ I only tried ranked this season bc I wanted the diamond title, i only did casual before. Now that I have it and have seen what the matchmaking is like in diamond rank and even plat I don’t know if I have motivation to continue lol

Servers are weird too, I’ve had recuperates go off too late, guard not go off, etc.

I think they need to add some more changes to make sure CC doesn’t die

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wait 5-10 minutes between matches and you'll get another group.

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Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool

wait 5-10 minutes between matches and you'll get another group.

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this is probably the best advice tbf

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Originally Posted by nighttimebunny

Servers are weird too, I’ve had recuperates go off too late, guard not go off, etc.

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Those aren't the servers, it's the netcode this game had since forever. It is just a lot more noticeable in pvp because it is faster and more reaction based than pve where you watch a boss stand there and cast it's "tick tock instant death"-mechanic for 5 seconds. And even in pve the server ticks occasionally get someone killed, despite your heal going out and the ability going on cooldown. The server has already registered them as dead and nothing you do can change it.

Yes I’m over pvp too. It’s ridiculous. I hate when I use guard only for me to go into animation with the barrier not around me and I still take damage and die. The fact that purify doesn’t work correctly and I get 5-7 seconds of constant CC. No thanks. Plus the rewards are terrible for ranked.

PVP is one of 3 reasons I actually log in to do anything in XIV (with the other 2 relating to maintaining my estates and running a single dungeon/roulette with friends upon their personal request)...
Sadly, they Yoshi'd all over that P and job balance is worse now than when it started (and it seems like they're going to just make it worse due to arbitrary abstract reasoning that I don't think even they understand), so the fun's been sorta sucked out of it for me. Mounts notwithstanding, there's basically no reason to accumulate those crystal points and PVP rewards are still not as substantial unless you want a lot of GC Seals.

It would be nice if Squeen could just not be so... Squeen, when they begin trying to "refine" the fun parts of their game.

The idea behind the PvP changes were good, but SE clearly is unable to properly support it. It's worse when it needs a lot of help like the state it's in now but even basic changes seem to take forever.

What idea behind...either you can pull it off or you fail. Considering they should know their own engine etc. the whole rework is complete bogus.

I hate to say I agree with you, but I do. I honestly love the PVP. My issue lies with the netcode or server tick or whatever you wish to call it. I also hate to say I’ve gone back to WoW for pvp now that they announced solo rated shuffle :(

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Originally Posted by Khalitas

I hate to say I agree with you, but I do. I honestly love the PVP. My issue lies with the netcode or server tick or whatever you wish to call it. I also hate to say I’ve gone back to WoW for pvp now that they announced solo rated shuffle :(

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Just wait till you get that enemy team with the Gladiator and the dude in green quest trash. xD

So true. I’ll at least give it a shot. I’m honestly a bit interested in the spec based rankings. So even if your spec is bad, you can rank up and place on the leaderboard. Interesting way to handle their terrible class balance

The degrees of negligence on PvP right now feels like, despite the exciting start with the 6.1 rework, the developer has fallen back to their usual attitude of PvP. I know a lot of the noise is people being unreasonable or misinformed, but like a lot of really good points and grievances that are upsetting both hardcore and casual fans alike feel completely unaddressed. It feels like the people who do make changes don't actually play PvP. It feels like they are not aware of what is fun. They routinely made really bad decisions, and anyone could have told them they were bad ideas before we even got 6.1 in our hands, but here we are almost half a year later and almost nothing anyone asks for is addressed, even the simpler changes.

Its pointless to play pvp without simple diminishing returns on multiple CCs

what they need to do is pull PVP from the game work on it till 8.0 and bring it back or work on as must as you do msq/raids.

They don't need to pull it. Wanted to see feedback from the JP forum about the changes via google translate. ....................overtime. It's going to go back to the way of The Feast in terms of rank ques. Casual matches is the future for the majority. No stress for the rank tier and can complete your series board whether you win or lose.

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They don't need to pull it. Wanted to see feedback from the JP forum about the changes via google translate. ....................overtime. It's going to go back to the way of The Feast in terms of rank ques. Casual matches is the future for the majority. No stress for the rank tier and can complete your series board whether you win or lose.

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True :/ also true for the achievement titles, there’s a lot of them and you can get them very easily by just doing casual matches. Most players aren’t going to even try for the top 100 titles and there’s not really any reason to do ranked for these achievements when casual makes progress towards them too (like the alpha wolf title, the undamaged, etc).

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

Those aren't the servers, it's the netcode this game had since forever. It is just a lot more noticeable in pvp because it is faster and more reaction based than pve where you watch a boss stand there and cast it's "tick tock instant death"-mechanic for 5 seconds. And even in pve the server ticks occasionally get someone killed, despite your heal going out and the ability going on cooldown. The server has already registered them as dead and nothing you do can change it.

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2012 netcode in 2022 XD

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Originally Posted by NightHour

2012 netcode in 2022 XD

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Not even 2012. As much as people seem to enjoy hating on WoW, that game came out in 2004 and it already had netcode that was more responsive back then.

Maybe the netcode is one of the few survivors of the calamity. xD

I m trying to get on diamond with gunbreaker, triple the pain I ensure you.

what se need to do is pull pvp out of the game now and re work it and i mean full test and balance it and not show it back up to 8.0 at least

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Originally Posted by Latarma

what se need to do is pull pvp out of the game now and re work it and i mean full test and balance it and not show it back up to 8.0 at least

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Nah, they don't need to do that. For one thing, it's probably going to come out worse than it did going in. For another thing, this PVP still has potential but they need to commit to tweaking the balance bit by bit with multiple patches, rather than trying a kneejerk reaction to a problem and slide from one extreme to another with a single patch and pretend it'll be alright until a major patch drops.

Just remove it. They can't handle it. It is beyond their skill set to implement in anything close to an acceptable level.