Onsal Hakair (Danshig Naadam) hands down is the best Frontline map

It really is. From its layout, to its mechanic, to the colors in the field; it's by far the best of the maps. It really does put the other maps to shame, so much so, that I dislike playing any other frontline map but it.

I like it because the map feels fun and aysmetric without being totally fucked like Seal Rock.

It was, until the pala exploid...

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Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool

It really is. From its layout, to its mechanic, to the colors in the field; it's by far the best of the maps. It really does put the other maps to shame, so much so, that I dislike playing any other frontline map but it.

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It makes sense though, since it was designed way later down the road. Best pvp map.

With paladins insta capping points? It used to be my favorite. Now it's least favorite. A pity really.

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Originally Posted by Rueby

With paladins insta capping points? It used to be my favorite. Now it's least favorite. A pity really.

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...and STILL ignored by SE...

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

...and STILL ignored by SE...

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It's nutty how one little oversight can ruin an otherwise fun mode. I refuse to believe this is anything but an oversight that the team is unwilling to admit lmao

I'm beginning to believe its intentional. Patches are coming and going and they seem reluctant to do anything about pala cheese

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Originally Posted by Lustre

I'm beginning to believe its intentional. Patches are coming and going and they seem reluctant to do anything about pala cheese

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Even in the Japanese forums there's threads about it.

At the moment Onsal Hakair is actually the worst map to play on because people just cheat. One time a teammate even suggested doing it and I told them I'd rather lose. Not sure why people are so okay with using an exploit just because it seems like SE is ignoring it.

Personally I prefer Fields of Glory (Shatter) because it focuses more on actually fighting each other between spawns instead of just drive-by point-taking.

It actually works on seal rock too (seen people do it), it's just that you can recapture there so it's less effective.

But yeah, SE is just actively refusing to do anything about the PLD exploit at this point, so I have to say it's the worst game mode now.

I've seen too many teams hard carried by pld abuse to see Onsal as anything but a joke at this point. To the point where I don't even play it for the daily roulette. The instant I see cover cheese I just accept the fact that the teams who don't use it are playing with a massive inherent disadvantage, and my efforts become half-hearted and unmotivated.
It's way too easy to set up, most jobs have ZERO ways to counter it, and I'm just done. Done standing there uselessly while invincible enemies wade through the chaos and auto-cap.

Boycotting the whole map until a change is made. Losing to it is the worst feeling ever, and winning with it feels cheap and unearned.

It's the best by virtue of being the smallest, quickest, and most kill-friendly, which makes it less boring and good for achievements. Getting to keep objectives also helps.

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

It's the best by virtue of being the smallest, quickest, and most kill-friendly, which makes it less boring and good for achievements. Getting to keep objectives also helps.

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Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.

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Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool

Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.

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It makes it a bad map from the enjoyment PoV. It's not fun to play the 'objectives' when the objective is getting yoinked from under the noses of over 24 people. So yes. Currently? Worst map. Exclude PLD? Pretty fun.

Shocker I wonder why people are mentioning pld cover in a map where pld cover makes the mode objectively worse ahahaha

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Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool

Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.

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It's been broken for over five months. Until SE fixes it, it's just a part of the map at this point.

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Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool

Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.

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Since I see at least one PLD use that exploit every single time I'm there, it's definitely a core part of the experience on that map. You can't actually deny that.

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Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool

Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.

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It seems to be a pretty big part of the experience tbf. Funnily enough, I haven't ran into it myself yet. Probably jinxed my luck with that but hey.

Shatter is still by far the best map because it focuses more on actual fighting, and the ice spawns are actually fair.

Just like seal rock, onsai can be a lose simply because the leading team keeps getting all the good points close to their base, hate the rng of the point spawning on both these maps and wish it would be changed, though it's even worse on seal rock if west team keeps getting points near them due to the giant advantage they have of capping and defending those points.