The whole 'One Linkshell Rule' thing...

I've been seeing this a lot lately, and while I'm not against it and can somewhat understand it, I think some LS leaders can be a bit strict about it.

I've been party to a very small group of friends ever since 5-6 years ago in FFXI, the Inner Circle. We've never been anything more than a social LS with 5-8 people on (our joke was that if everyone else left, there'd still be Kuronori holding out). While not everyone has made the move to FFXIV for various reasons (most couldn't afford a higher end PC, failed launch, 2.0 PS3 release, yada yada) I made a point to keep the shell up and running for my friends when they did decide to come back.

We currently have about 3 active members. And since the LS wasn't originally mine, I'm wary about inviting players from outside our circle of friends. So it remains a tiny social LS where the most we can do is group together for light events/parties.


So naturally, I've been looking for endgame event LS's to take part in. But I keep running into the "One Linkshell Rule" asking me to give up my other one. The reasoning is that I'd be creating unnecessary multi-linkshell drama that's unwanted. I don't really see how my small, tight-nit social LS would do that.

TL/DR: I can understand having multiple Endgame linkshells being a problem. But multiple social LS's? C'mon.

Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous. Luckily I haven't come across that problem yet. And if someone asks me to drop a ls to be in theirs...I'll probably drop theirs. Depending.

it's not ridiculous because the 1 endgame rule been like that sense ffxi. But in ffxiv there a reason for it not many endgame linkshell know this they just do it for there own reason. But when 2.0 come out you can only be in one Free company which is for endgame the linkshell system would just be for talking and such you your allow to have more then one but free company you only allow to join one like wow guild system.

If your in a linkshell that is not a endgame linkshell saying you could only be in one linkshell then ya that just mess up lol.

Honestly, I have yet to hear of a linkshell on Aegis that has this rule. I run my own linkshell, it was social at first, but lately we've been scheduling events and such. I don't consider us an endgame linkshell, but there is no way... ever, that would cause me to enforce a rule like that. It's just ridiculous. In XIV, multiple linkshells are kind of needed, no matter how full and active your list is. You can't take everyone with you to your 'scheduled' events.
That's my opinion anyway... some rules are just too elitist for me. I tell my linkshell members to join other linkshells especially since timing can be an issue, and they are still pretty active in mine.

@Zanaku Not trying to be mean but, punctuation is not your strong point...is it? Nor is some of your spelling. I had to re-read your paragraph a few times just to get what you were trying to say. If English isn't your first language, I'll throw my grammar nazi out the window for now but...meh.

Anyway, I can understand having a main ls. I have one myself that I will not be willing to part with easily (I'll probably consider them my Free Company when that feature become available). And I have joined a few other ls's while telling them they are welcome to invite me for any primal runs or anything else if they need to and if I'm available.

I play this game to have fun and make friends. It's not a job, and I shouldn't have to have any entitlements. But it should also be known that I am not the type of person to join a linkshell to abuse their resources then ditch them. If people help me, I'm pretty good at returning the favor.

I run an end-game Linkshell for the present and future, and would never enforce a rule like this. People like to join their social linkshells during event down-time/off-days, And I have no problem with that. Although since our linkshell is a jack of all trades, people tend to socialize more in ours than their "social" linkshell, but even if they did talk in another linkshell, I really don't care. Our pearl is on during events, any other time it's up to the player's discretion. I rather people want to wear our pearl because we are a great group of people to talk to and be around, not because I'm forcing someone to do so. That is just silly.

If you or anyone is interested, check out our website, register and talk with us on our general forums, or apply if you are interested in joining as social or full member. We take all people looking for a great home to participate for Pre2.0, during 2.0 and beyond 2.0 :).

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Urist, hit me up when the game's up. I got a great shell for you with no restrictions. Also with nothing else to do other than primals and dungeons really, social shells will do said content to keep occupied for one. As you can have up to 8 shells this one shell drama is stupid. Even with largish shells you still alot of the time end up filling one or 2 slots with pugs.
Say for example, you have for the sake of argument 5 or so shells and they all do the dungeons, etc but your schedule isn't set in stone for work or rl, so you will end up going with whatever shell is doing whatever event at the time that fits you best. That could end up being you looking like you're hopping all over the place but that's how it is even with shells that are full and still are hard-pressed to fill the pt.

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I run an end-game Linkshell for the present and future, and would never enforce a rule like this. People like to join their social linkshells during event down-time/off-days, And I have no problem with that. Although since our linkshell is a jack of all trades, people tend to socialize more in ours than their "social" linkshell, but even if they did talk in another linkshell, I really don't care. Our pearl is on during events, any other time it's up to the player's discretion. I rather people want to wear our pearl because we are a great group of people to talk to and be around, not because I'm forcing someone to do so. That is just silly.

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This /10char

I'm a member of several shells and while I cannot fathom anyone demanding you only have 1 LS total, I can understand having to pick 1 main endgame LS.

I have often refused invites to linkshells because they required me to drop other pearls...

Same I'm in an awsome ls check us out www.pandemoniumls.enjin.com we are on the same server :)

I have my own linkshell with a hundred members. Half are inactive, so not only do I have my own linkshell, I'm still part of other linkshells as well. Who am I to tell someone how to play a game they purchased. Don't make since to me. My job is to make the environment suitable for my members. I could end my linkshell and remake it and the ones I touched will look for me.

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Same I'm in an awsome ls check us out www.pandemoniumls.enjin.com we are on the same server :)

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I've seen your shell around some.

Urist, go to http://aegisknights.enjin.com/

I'm starting to see this happen a bit on Hyperion. personally I think it's silly as hell, but some people are stupid serious about this rule >< it's really annoying. multiple LS' mean more chance of full parties, I don't see anything wrong with it at all.

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Originally Posted by Giit

I'm starting to see this happen a bit on Hyperion. personally I think it's silly as hell, but some people are stupid serious about this rule >< it's really annoying. multiple LS' mean more chance of full parties, I don't see anything wrong with it at all.

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Exactly how I see it. More ppl more chance of a full pt . I remember someone once saying it's the attitude they brought over from FFXI. I have np reminding them this is FFXIV not FFXI.

There have been a bit of Linkshells like this on Selbina/Ridill in the past, and from my knowledge, still are a few. I've been in two so far myself.

First one, was very strict with the 1 LS Rule, to the point that if they saw you with another Linkshell equiped, they would boot you, or send someone out to do it. Although I must say, we did get stuff done, and things were very organized, aside from the rule and the drama it caused and people who ultimately quit the game over the drama, it wasn't a bad shell. However; Nov of last year, both leaders quit and took the LS bank with them. ><

Second, was a must needed improvment from the first. They weren't as strict, just have your pearl equiped during Linkshell Events. But one day this Linkshell kicked a few good players for not having their "LS flag" equiped during CC/AV runs....The people kicked were NA, and were pretty much the rock of our NA player base, and they were also the people I did most of our Linkshell events with. After all of this, the Linkshell updated their rules, disbanded and reformed shell, and you had to accept new rules before you could get your pearl back.......and as you can guess, I haven't went to go pick up my new pearl yet.


I think this rule, whether they let you have multiple linkshells or you can only have one linkshell EVER, is stupid. It's only there, so that one day to cause drama, drama over something stupid. I personally know of multiple people who ultimately quit over the drama that this rule has made.

I feel I have made too many friends or acquaintences on my server, and I like having social shells, on top of having an endgame shell, and think it's dumb that anyone would want to be part of something that restricts you from being the best player you can be.

I am for this rule. I feel that the sense of dedication and loyalty I have for my LS and to the people in it is reflected by my choice to have one LS only.
I want the people in my LS to feel that I will stand by them first before anyone else. That is why I joined. We have a pretty good family in Counting Sheep and we stick by each other.
It is nice to have people you can depend on.

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I am for this rule. I feel that the sense of dedication and loyalty I have for my LS and to the people in it is reflected by my choice to have one LS only.
I want the people in my LS to feel that I will stand by them first before anyone else. That is why I joined. We have a pretty good family in Counting Sheep and we stick by each other.
It is nice to have people you can depend on.

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I can understand this, but you're asking a lot of any new recruits who may already have linkshells and friends.

There's other ways to solve the problems of dependability. Like having a 2 linkshell system for your guild. One is a proving ground for new players - all members are apart of it and it's considered more social than endgame, but you still do events. The other is the elite group, where people who've proved themselves get to be part of the permanent team.

Another way to solve this would be with guild/linkshell ranks, but until we see how player companies are run, who knows if that'll ever be a thing.

I agree, I definitely think that the implementation of player companies will change how Linkshells are organised. But until then I feel that Keeping our Linkshell as close-knit as possible is the best idea. You may be right I'm sure a lot of people think it may be a tough ask but the sign up process has all the rules clearly spelled out. We didn't always have this rule. It was created out of necessity. Who knows, it may change in the future but for the time being the security and piece of mind it brings outweighs the possibility of being taken advantage of.

Just join us @ http://distantworld.enjin.com/galler...532#pid=515376 we don't have restrictions, but really look for spirited team players who are here to have fun with others whether it be for exp parties, crafting/social gatherings, raids, primal fights, or being part of live streams and let's plays, we'd love to have ya. Just seek out Pico Man, Okazaki Masamune, Katella, Mini Ninja, Sambonz, or Myself (I don't have add privileges but will get in touch with the folk that do if you can't yourself)

Personally i think this game caters to multiple LS and you are kind of gimping yourself by only having one. There is so much content to do now that it's just easier to find ppl to do stuff with if you have LS's that are made specifically for those events i.e. Caravan, Hamlet, Raids, Lvling etc. Unless you have no job and everyone else in your one ls also has no job and is always on every day the same time as everyone else is...i don't see how one LS works.

I only need one ls

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Personally i think this game caters to multiple LS and you are kind of gimping yourself by only having one. There is so much content to do now that it's just easier to find ppl to do stuff with if you have LS's that are made specifically for those events i.e. Caravan, Hamlet, Raids, Lvling etc. Unless you have no job and everyone else in your one ls also has no job and is always on every day the same time as everyone else is...i don't see how one LS works.

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silly silly man

I can't agree with the one LS rule. A major aspect of MMOs is social networking, forcing your members to adhere to only one shell simply is not congruent to that fact. I've got seven shells that are all at least somewhat active, if I need an extra person for a Hamlet or Primal or anything of that nature, the odds of getting a volunteer are exponentially higher if my sample size is bigger, it's simple logic. This small scale xenophobia works alright on other MMOs, but it's simply a bad idea in this one.

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Originally Posted by Nanaya

I can't agree with the one LS rule. A major aspect of MMOs is social networking, forcing your members to adhere to only one shell simply is not congruent to that fact. I've got seven shells that are all at least somewhat active, if I need an extra person for a Hamlet or Primal or anything of that nature, the odds of getting a volunteer are exponentially higher if my sample size is bigger, it's simple logic. This small scale xenophobia works alright on other MMOs, but it's simply a bad idea in this one.

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Originally Posted by Nanaya

I can't agree with the one LS rule. A major aspect of MMOs is social networking, forcing your members to adhere to only one shell simply is not congruent to that fact. I've got seven shells that are all at least somewhat active, if I need an extra person for a Hamlet or Primal or anything of that nature, the odds of getting a volunteer are exponentially higher if my sample size is bigger, it's simple logic. This small scale xenophobia works alright on other MMOs, but it's simply a bad idea in this one.

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why not get 8th LS? sample size the bigger the better

Been looking around for the last one. I am not above whoring myself out, but I have standards. It's a precarious situation.

I have three shells that all have 90% of the same players. Go me!

Only one linkshell is required to get everything I need done. Everyone in this shell is very active and I am well acquainted with everyone in it. I cannot fathom how having multiple shells will allow for you to really get to know anyone since most of the time you'll just be switching between one linkshell or another asking to get something done with an incredible amount of inefficiency and wouldn't really know what everyone within a shell is capable of.

Unless, of course, you have already been in a certain shell for a long time and know what peoples' schedules usually consist of then I suppose having one more linkshell is ok, but still, having one extremely efficient, active, fun, and friendly linkshell consisting of dedicated people is the most desirable thing I would like, which I've already achieved and would never want to have another linkshell. Having high morale and faithful linkshell members is the best thing a linkshell could possibly have, which only requires one.

tl;dr: I disagree about having multiple shells. It's inefficient and you can't really spend a lot of your time getting well acquainted with those within several different shells.

1 Linkshell rules= endgame Hardcore focus all into the newest content----
that would be what you will call Company---- in the future-

linkshell now will be turned into social aspect 0-

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Originally Posted by Nayrr

Only one linkshell is required to get everything I need done. Everyone in this shell is very active and I am well acquainted with everyone in it. I cannot fathom how having multiple shells will allow for you to really get to know anyone since most of the time you'll just be switching between one linkshell or another asking to get something done with an incredible amount of inefficiency and wouldn't really know what everyone within a shell is capable of.

Unless, of course, you have already been in a certain shell for a long time and know what peoples' schedules usually consist of then I suppose having one more linkshell is ok, but still, having one extremely efficient, active, fun, and friendly linkshell consisting of dedicated people is the most desirable thing I would like, which I've already achieved and would never want to have another linkshell. Having high morale and faithful linkshell members is the best thing a linkshell could possibly have, which only requires one.

tl;dr: I disagree about having multiple shells. It's inefficient and you can't really spend a lot of your time getting well acquainted with those within several different shells.

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Perf all day man.

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Originally Posted by Geo

This^^

Perf all day man.

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Oh HAY there fellow Hamlet ls member.

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Originally Posted by Nanaya

Been looking around for the last one. I am not above whoring myself out, but I have standards. It's a precarious situation.

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Nanaya and I are high class escorts, we have standards, and you can take us home to meet mom. If you pay enough we'll even let you say we're your girlfriend.

<3 Vehemence.

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<3 Vehemence.

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Originally Posted by Geo

WHO?????????????

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If it's any consolation, I don't know who Perfection is either.

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If it's any consolation, I don't know who Perfection is either.

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Yep, okay. Server firsts, how we roll on Masamune:

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Edit: Sorry for the derail.

NEVER FORGET

They need to raise the cap on LS members, i'd also like to see a LS perk system similar to what WoW has. For instance, the LS itself gains levels for completing events, recruiting members, length of operation etc and the perks are things like increased EXP for leves, increased gil gain from quests etc etc

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NEVER FORGET

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How's PUG everything working out for you? :p

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Originally Posted by Geo

How's PUG everything working out for you? :p

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About as well as it is for you