Wanted: Tomestone and nuts item refunds

In WoW, similar token purchases can be refunded for the full price for one hour, as long as they weren't equipped and soulbound. I just made a tomestone item purchase, then discovered I already had the augmented version in my armory chest, so I just wasted 495 Astronomy tomestones.

I guess the issue here is that there's no soulbinding concept to let the system know you've equipped the item. Without that, people could buy gear, use it for an hour, then refund it and then buy another piece for a different job with the same tomestones.

The item is soulbound to you if you glam it or use it in battle.
The issue isn't that. There's just no refunds because the game kind of expects you to double check when it comes to that stuff. You *could* see if your once-in-a-lifetime, once-per-account item restore could apply to this, but is it really worth it?

When dealing with this gear, I like to buy up the full left or right side before I start playing around with augments. You could do that or keep a checklist to avoid this problem.

The other way to avoid the problem is to have the same job equipped when you go to buy a new piece so you can do an item comparison to make certain you're buying an upgrade.

/isearch the non-augmented version (currently /isearch radiant) and all augmented versions that you own should come up too.

This is unlikely to happen unless you have taken a break and don't have all of it equipped.

Put this on the list of fundamental quality of life changes to core/old systems that will always take a backseat in dev priority to new content and systems. Next to glamor dresser, hrothgar/viera hats, and furnishing.

In a similar vain, what's with their token/currency vendor design making it as complex as possible to get what you want? As a simplified example if X costs A and B, and B always costs C, then just make X cost A and C.

This would be a nice-to-have QoL change, but I honestly don't see it as that much of an issue because tomestones and nuts are so easy to come by.

QoL changes like this seem to amount "Hold my hand and don't let me fall. Put padding on the ground in case I do" The problem was solved in a couple of posts. All it requires is a little thought and organization.

There are frankly more important changes that need to happen like improving accessibility within the UI for those that need it.

Before you buy something you can type in /isearch "item partial name" and it will show to you the full list of items that contain that name in your posession. Then you right click them and click search and you will see where they are.

ALWAYS do this before purchasing something.

Besides, if you made a mistake you can always do either of the following:
1. you can desynth most of the tome gear (except the newest one, but with time you can do that too) and the drops from desynth usually sell nice
2. you can sell your itmes for seals when they get old.
3. Give the gear to your retainer :) they will eventually bring you better things from their venture if you level their gear.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

You *could* see if your once-in-a-lifetime, once-per-account item restore could apply to this, but is it really worth it?

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Even then, it's a 50/50 chance they will give it to you. I got kicked out of my in game house due to being unable to log in due to RL issues and when I asked for an item back that I lost in the demolition and reclaimer they more or less told me to get bent and then would just send me a copypaste reply when I tried to escalate it so YMMV.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Even then, it's a 50/50 chance they will give it to you. I got kicked out of my in game house due to being unable to log in due to RL issues and when I asked for an item back that I lost in the demolition and reclaimer they more or less told me to get bent and then would just send me a copypaste reply when I tried to escalate it so YMMV.

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Have they ever given items back in that case? Might be policy because of the somewhat widely known fineprint of timing when it comes to demolition and stuff. Not that I don't think one should be free to request their item restore be used for whatever, btw, just asking!

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Have they ever given items back in that case? Might be policy because of the somewhat widely known fineprint of timing when it comes to demolition and stuff. Not that I don't think one should be free to request their item restore be used for whatever, btw, just asking!

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No idea, I just know I have heard that GMs can do something like that once but according to the GM I was talking to they don't do that at all. Stinks too since it was more of a sentimental item than anything else. :/

Is there perhaps a complication in reclaiming a housing item because the game stops seeing it as "your" item and it becomes "the house's" item?

(Hence why on the positive side you can use the house to pass untradable furniture to a housemate or FC member.)

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

QoL changes like this seem to amount "Hold my hand and don't let me fall. Put padding on the ground in case I do" The problem was solved in a couple of posts. All it requires is a little thought and organization.

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"Hold my hand" ...."Hold my hand"!? Seriously.

This is probably the most hand holding, baby's first, easy mode MMO on the entire market and a huge number of players demanded it be that way and won't have it change for anything. Then those same terrible players launch into self-righteous speeches about hand holding of all things over a single harmless QoL feature that helps with the very occasional slip up. Like they've never slipped up or been hand held on anything in this game.

I swear, I lose all hope in the community more every day...

Someone needs a break...

I used a one time item restore in FFXI when I dropped 99 Ordelle Bronzepieces.

That was worth about three million gil, which is like saying more like.... 30 million gil in FFXIV coinage. You're darn right I used my one time restore for that!

Buying the wrong tomestome gear did make me unsub for a while so would quite like to see a refund system.

I don't think anyone's ever done a refund system. I doubt they'll start. The main problem with having one here is the cap on tomestones. It takes a few seconds to confirm your purchase.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

"Hold my hand" ...."Hold my hand"!? Seriously.

This is probably the most hand holding, baby's first, easy mode MMO on the entire market and a huge number of players demanded it be that way and won't have it change for anything. Then those same terrible players launch into self-righteous speeches about hand holding of all things over a single harmless QoL feature that helps with the very occasional slip up. Like they've never slipped up or been hand held on anything in this game.

I swear, I lose all hope in the community more every day...

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And what makes you think they're the same people?

Pay attention before you buy an item? Its not the games fault you bought the wrong thing.

I think WoW had a refund option as far back as Cataclysm at least. I imagine it's not the only game out there that lets you refund things within a short time frame assuming you haven't used it. This game opted for warning menus. lol 8)

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

"Hold my hand" ...."Hold my hand"!? Seriously.

This is probably the most hand holding, baby's first, easy mode MMO on the entire market and a huge number of players demanded it be that way and won't have it change for anything. Then those same terrible players launch into self-righteous speeches about hand holding of all things over a single harmless QoL feature that helps with the very occasional slip up. Like they've never slipped up or been hand held on anything in this game.

I swear, I lose all hope in the community more every day...

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so you want more handholding?