If CC Didnt Exist, What Other Content Would You Want?

The season just reset and no one is playing: never queue pops during off peak times and same 20ish people during peak (diamond/crystal rank)

Imagine all the other content we could have gotten if they didnt make a whole new game mode to be dead half way through the 6.1X patch cycle?

So what content would you have liked to see instead?

I'd like to see the final arc of the Ivalice/Bozja storyline with additional Delubrum Reginae-style raids and exploratory zones. Neither of which are planned for the forseeable future.

I really want 8v8v8 pvp, smaller scale stuff that isnt CC. Think WSG or AB in WoW. I would also really like for garlemald to be properly fleshed out. Maybe they could tie it into the unfinished/abandoned bozja storyline.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I'd like to see the final arc of the Ivalice/Bozja storyline with additional Delubrum Reginae-style raids and exploratory zones. Neither of which are planned for the forseeable future.

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I really liked the DR raid, that too is kind of annoying that you have to go into bozja to even queue for it.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

I really want 8v8v8 pvp, smaller scale stuff that isnt CC. Think WSG or AB in WoW. I would also really like for garlemald to be properly fleshed out. Maybe they could tie it into the unfinished/abandoned bozja storyline.

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Capture the flag may be an interesting pvp mode. I think smaller modes 8v8 would make it feel like you arent getting perma stunned down and killed like frontlines.

If SE would of given all the frames for the tiers we completed then ranked pvp would be fire right now. Most are doing just casual because they are purposefully wanting to down rank to get the Diamond frame when this season is over.

Blitzball. The ultimate PvP game.

Palace of the Dead

Anything that felt complete and fulfilling also repeatable

Yeah r just another limited job

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Originally Posted by TheTyrant

The season just reset and no one is playing: never queue pops during off peak times and same 20ish people during peak (diamond/crystal rank)

Imagine all the other content we could have gotten if they didnt make a whole new game mode to be dead half way through the 6.1X patch cycle?

So what content would you have liked to see instead?

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From the outset of the announcement they'd be creating a new 5v5 mode, my opinion has always been that the effort should have been devoted to improving Rival Wings, adding CTF (TF2 version to avoid the "immortal flag carrying tanks" issue WoW had with the more traditional CTF style they went with), adding Onslaught (UT2k4), adding Assault (UT/UT2k4 version, or possibly TF2's version), etc, aiming for 24v24 in relatively large and open maps.

With the servers we have, something like WoW arenas is just never going to be feasible here, so I don't really agree with even bothering to try. I think CC is a lot of fun but it's always going to be held back by those awful server ticks. Maps and modes with more of an emphasis on managing objectives, piloting vehicles, maintaining effective player distribution, etc will fare better with low tick rates.

I *do* think the class rework/redesign was an 11/10 success, though. I love the unique+personal LBs thing and honestly wish they'd do that to PvE. I do think classes should generally have about 8-10 unique buttons (so 13-15 with shared Recuperate, Purify, Guard, Elixir, and LB) though. I think the current 6-7 is a little bit too limiting.

I want more objective style pvp maps similar to warzones in swtor.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

If SE would of given all the frames for the tiers we completed then ranked pvp would be fire right now. Most are doing just casual because they are purposefully wanting to down rank to get the Diamond frame when this season is over.

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I doubt more than a handful of people even remotely care about lower rank frames...

Various capture the flag 8vs8 or 5vs5

The CC game mode is fun and good. But who wants to play this when rewards suck and MMR system is trash. This game has a huge boosting problem and now it's even worse. Even if there were no boosters, the people who went full NEET life mode in previous season will be so far ahead that no matter how good you are, you will never catch up.
They can do as many new game modes or different content they want, it will always die if they don't do anything with it. Better fix the current stuff before they waste more time doing new shit that will eventually just go in the same bucket.

I've been playing this game for around 9~ months now, and I would like to play/try the previous pvp mode "The Feast".
Currently, I am excited for the return of Rival Wings, it will be my first time playing it.
Besides the above, I would like a small scale Frontline with its own maps, maybe 10v10v10? And bring rewards worth grinding too.
I have mixed feelings regarding CC, especially with the top 100 rewards that are lacking imo.

I would like something that doesn't focus on ganging up on one person on the opposite team or a single playstyle so PvP can feel more diverse and fun.

How about we race to a certain item that can cause the other team to blow up? Trap doors, some poison potions to throw people off, maybe a DPS race on mobs/bosses with each time having their own to fight. Kinda like the alliance raids where 3 mobs pop up and each team has to go to their own locations to fight them.

I love the idea of capturing the flag someone mentioned. Maybe if a team is losing FAR TOO BADLY, a NPC or a mob of some sort comes and helps support the losing team in case things are far too unbalanced.
Maybe a soccer like game where you have to use abilities to hit a ball to a goal. We can swim so blitz ball would be an amazing feature!

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Originally Posted by Habbit

The CC game mode is fun and good. But who wants to play this when rewards suck and MMR system is trash. This game has a huge boosting problem and now it's even worse. Even if there were no boosters, the people who went full NEET life mode in previous season will be so far ahead that no matter how good you are, you will never catch up.
They can do as many new game modes or different content they want, it will always die if they don't do anything with it. Better fix the current stuff before they waste more time doing new shit that will eventually just go in the same bucket.

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welcome to online multiplayer games. There's always going to be boosting. It's up to the devs to reduce incentive to do so by making glams and mount available to everyone and not just top 100 and actually cracking down on ppl multi-char boosting. If they want to reward those ppl in the top at the end of a season, then just give then titles and maybe adventure plates but the moment you add an exclusive glamour or mount you will get rampant boosting as seen over the last 9 years pvp has been in this game.

The battle pass is the right step in realizing that there are less ppl interested in pvp than in ultimate in this game. Most ppl don't care for pvp and only want the rewards in it and that is a fact.

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Originally Posted by Lacksz

I've been playing this game for around 9~ months now, and I would like to play/try the previous pvp mode "The Feast".
Currently, I am excited for the return of Rival Wings, it will be my first time playing it.
Besides the above, I would like a small scale Frontline with its own maps, maybe 10v10v10? And bring rewards worth grinding too.
I have mixed feelings regarding CC, especially with the top 100 rewards that are lacking imo.

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I would like the feast back as well, but people tend to not like pure arena combat even though the feast did sortof kindof had an objective lol. The mode wasn't popular at all, and the strict role requirements made the queue extremely long.

Something similar to Alterac Valley from classic wow.

Capture the Flag (8v8) and King of the Hill (frontline based) come to my mind with that question.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I want more objective style pvp maps similar to warzones in swtor.



I doubt more than a handful of people even remotely care about lower rank frames...

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You’d be surprised.

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Originally Posted by KhudusQestir

I would like something that doesn't focus on ganging up on one person on the opposite team or a single playstyle so PvP can feel more diverse and fun.

How about we race to a certain item that can cause the other team to blow up? Trap doors, some poison potions to throw people off, maybe a DPS race on mobs/bosses with each time having their own to fight. Kinda like the alliance raids where 3 mobs pop up and each team has to go to their own locations to fight them.

I love the idea of capturing the flag someone mentioned. Maybe if a team is losing FAR TOO BADLY, a NPC or a mob of some sort comes and helps support the losing team in case things are far too unbalanced.
Maybe a soccer like game where you have to use abilities to hit a ball to a goal. We can swim so blitz ball would be an amazing feature!

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Blitzball has been a Gold Saucer beg for years now. Who knows, maybe we'll get it in 6.4 or 6.5?

UT-style Assault would probably be fun. It still involves a whole lot of killing, but generally speaking the defenders have to divide themselves up to protect multiple objectives and there's typically multiple ways for the attackers to clear each given phase. If the maps are large enough, Onslaught also might fit the bill, since it requires the teams to divide up in many cases.

Hidden Gorge already fits the bill in a lot of ways. There's always stuff that needs to be done, so it keeps teams split up and moving around instead of zerging in one big clump. They really should have just put more effort into Rival Wings, honestly.

The Feast (with old skills and as much hype as CC got).

I'd like to see a pvp zone. Something like the ettenmoors in lotro.