New Guinness Book of Records

I was looking at the Guinness Book of World records and the FFXIV community.



https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2017/2/final-fantasy-wracks-up-three-new-record-titles-at-frankfurt-fan-festival-463343



A quote from that article,


"Stephen Daultrey, Editor of the Guinness World Records Gamer’s Edition said, "It is testament to both the size and longevity of the Final Fantasy franchise that it can break Guinness World Records titles that are broad, eclectic, and landmark as these ones.”"



Here is one of the three records from the official site.




https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/453577-longest-end-credits-in-an-mmo-videogame



After looking at our FFXIV community of gamers, there has to be FFXIV gamers in the community including FCs that have broken these records or could easily break them if they knew.



https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/105599-biggest-mmo-guild


https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/484488-most-followed-mmo-videogame-on-twitter



In addition, I thought maybe some of the original FFXIV features would break a few of these records.


https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/first-mmorpg-to-use-a-mentoring-system



And I personally think our FFXIV musical system is far more complex than this record.


https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/89319-most-complex-music-system-in-an-mmorpg



Also, these records are easily attainable if we could find out the oldest FFXIV gamer in our community with highest achievement points, minions, and BIS gear.



https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/495235-oldest-world-of-warcraft-gamer-to-reach-900-average-item-level-of-equipment


https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/493532-oldest-world-of-warcraft-gamer-to-collect-850-unique-pets


Finally, I have a feeling we have a very large FFXIV community that have a particular mount….


https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/513824-most-popular-mount-in-the-elder-scrolls-online



Not only do I think the FFXIV community can make meaningful contributions, but also rewrite the history books…


Your thoughts?

For those that don't know how to apply for the Guinness Book of World Records (GBWR), these are the steps below:


1) Register for an account

2) You will receive an email with an activation link. Click on the link, and you will be brought to a dashboard page.

3) Click on the green ‘Apply for a record’ button.

4) Search for the record that you want to break.

5) When you find the record, click the ‘Apply Now’ button. If you cannot find the record you can apply for a new one by clicking ‘Apply for a new record title’ at the bottom of the page.

6) Complete the application form.


These steps must be done for 'New' records as well as challenging existing records.* See link below:


https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/contact/application-enquiry


In addition, I would like to remind everyone that anything against Square Enix or FFXIV TOS, copyright infringements, or the like won't be entered in GBWR because those violations would be inherently against GBWR policies, that include violations of illegal activities, inappropriate/offensive, and etc (See Link Below).


https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records/record-policies


Hopefully, we can see the FFXIV gaming community break or create new world records, and rewrite the history books.

Your thoughts?

Waste of time?

I'm hear to have fun playing a game, not set pointless world records.

Hopefully SE is also focused on creating a fun game and not setting pointless world records as well.

Sometime I feel like SE is one of the last gaming companies on earth who actually is still focused on creating fun games. They aren't always successful of course, but I believe the genuine effort is still there.

Hacks, Mods, and etc are not only a breach of TOS, but also a hindrance for bigger and better things.


The GWR looks at three criteria:


1) Standardized

2) Measurable

3) Everyone can do it


These mods and hacks are unwelcomed and affect the gaming community as a whole in pursuing bigger endeavors….


On a positive note, outside the TOP debacle, someone had a great idea of 'world fastest ffxiv crafter' or who can craft most unique HQ items in a minute in ff14.


It meets the 3 criteria on a Playstation 5.* If someone does pursues this, it requires 2 time keepers and 2 witnesses.

I think this is personally worth a try....

Is being able to see the Omega fight from Space going to be entered into the Guinness book of world records?

I feel that the mods are causing great harm and this is a great article about Blizzard and pursuing damages from mods.


https://www.polygon.com/2017/3/23/15...ld-of-warcarft

'Blizzard filed an action for recovery of over $8 million in damages in a US Court based on statutory damages and the German Court’s finding in its favor.'


The mods are not only hindering other legal pursuits such as GBWR, but also grave violations of copyright laws and intellectual property.


Again, the mods are unwanted for numerous reasons beyond TOS….

"First mmorpg to use mentoring system"? What?
There were MMOs from before 1.0 using a mentoring system.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

Sometime I feel like SE is one of the last gaming companies on earth who actually is still focused on creating fun games. They aren't always successful of course, but I believe the genuine effort is still there.

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Yeah, not many companies focus on fun games like Final Fantasy VII The First Soldier, Avengers, Babylon's Fall, Balan Wonderworld, Quiet Man and Forspoken. SE is impeccable.

We have some exceptional gamers in the FF14 community. This is just one example of one gamer on PS3 that was the first to clear FF14.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com...antasy-xiv-ps3

Because it meets the 3 GBWR criteria (i.e. standardized, measurable, and everyone can do it), FF14 console users are more likely to be officially amazing. I think there are a lot more FF14 console gamers that could be in the GBWR with proof from psnprofiles.com, lodestone character profile achievements (timestamped to the day), and etc.

Other great examples would be first to obtain harder Gold Saucer achievements, FATE achievements, Firmament achievements, and etc.

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Originally Posted by ThroatDeep

Is being able to see the Omega fight from Space going to be entered into the Guinness book of world records?

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I second this nomination of _UNAMED for world's furthest seeing video camera.

I just don't see the point in it – inventing things for the Guinness Records as a whole, not just getting more FFXIV stuff into it. It becomes a contest to invent the most infinitely specific category you can think of to get your name on it.

"First to clear X content" / "most points scored in game X" type achievements are best left within the game's own leaderboards or achievement logs, not duplicated in a labyrinthine new system just because you can.

The records don't have to be complex and some are already existing, but Blizzard has records like,


1) First to level 80

2) First to level 70

3) Most gamers at a virtual funeral*

4) First Stan Lee Cameo*

5) Oldest World of Warcraft gamer to earn 10,000 Achievement Points

6) Most Twitch channels for an RPG videogame

7) Most expensive World of Warcraft mount

8) First LGBT hero in Overwatch

9) Tallest mobile cosplay costume based on a videogame (single person)

10) Oldest World of Warcraft gamer to reach 900 average Item Level of equipment

11) Most watched World of Warcraft machinima on YouTube



I think these could be FF14 equivalent world record titles using Blizzard's record history.**


1) First to level 90 in FF14

2) First to level 80 in FF14

3) Most gamers at a virtual funeral*

4) First Green Ranger Cameo (Could really be anyone)

5) Oldest FF14 gamer to earn 20,000 Achievement Points

6) Most Twitch channels for an RPG videogame

7) Most expensive FF14 mount (FF14 has '50 million gil' mounts)

8) First LGBT hero in FF14*

9) Tallest mobile cosplay costume based on a videogame (single person) [Hydaelyn Cosplay]

10) Oldest FF14*gamer to reach 630 average Item Level of equipment

11) Most watched FF14 ultimates, savage, extremes on YouTube


I feel there is a lot of potential GBWRs that could be obtained, and some even challenging existing Blizzard records.

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inventing things for the Guinness Records

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Insert obligatory moment from hbomberguy's video about Tommy Tallarico

(I tried to make a clip of the relevant moment but you'll have to settle for a link to a timestamp and decide for yourself when to stop watching because YouTube refuses to cooperate)

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Originally Posted by TempusFinis

We have some exceptional gamers in the FF14 community. This is just one example of one gamer on PS3 that was the first to clear FF14.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com...antasy-xiv-ps3

Because it meets the 3 GBWR criteria (i.e. standardized, measurable, and everyone can do it), FF14 console users are more likely to be officially amazing. I think there are a lot more FF14 console gamers that could be in the GBWR with proof from psnprofiles.com, lodestone character profile achievements (timestamped to the day), and etc.

Other great examples would be first to obtain harder Gold Saucer achievements, FATE achievements, Firmament achievements, and etc.

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There are some exceptionally obnoxious personalities within this community™ as well.

An additional thought on the "record" categories, even aside of Fyrebrand's link – so many of them are just not interesting.

"Oldest person to do X" is interesting if it's something that is difficult to do, like being the oldest person to run a marathon or climb Mount Everest. Oldest person to sit on the couch pressing controller buttons until they achieve a long-but-not-difficult process in a videogame.

"First to achieve X" is only interesting if it's something historic – from the list above, "first LGBT character in any medium" might be interesting, but "first LGBT character in a specific title" is pointless.

I have to question the application of "first achieved" to the idea of "records" in general because a record should be something that is capable of being broken. Nobody else can attempt to be the first person to achieve a thing. They're separate categories of trivia.

Also, actively trying to beat a "biggest funeral" record sounds like incredibly poor taste.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

"first LGBT character in any medium"

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And this is one of the things they wont do as it involves politics, and cannot be clearly defined either. Because a solo character in any game might not show this identity at all, and therefor could be made to be like that later on. Once it involves politics, you are just creating a constantly changing field which can just be adjusted to whatever is deemed normal at a certain time (and in history certain things used to be normal which now are definitely not done).

First to achieve X only works when things can be measured and the measurement doesnt need to be changed over time (some game speedrun categories already resolved that by using a subcategory - some which became more popular than the default). And yes, sometimes discoveries show that certain runs became invalid because memory of previous runs was used (and before that, was assumed just rng). But again, all of these involve things that can be measured, and thats why they work well. The same can be applied upon game expansions and a certain level because the measurement doesnt change, its just a limited number of opportunities.

Some records also dont need to be broken, because it simply isnt going to be possible in any logical way, yet can still be quite an achievement For example: First to achieve 1m views on youtube. It cant be broken, but 2m, 5m etc can just become a new category as follow up. And at some point certain numbers become more special as the next major treshold is effectively unreachable (for youtube views, its usualy each multiple of 10 as its the first round number, and at some point runs into the issue of not enough people existing).

The biggest funeral one was caused indirectly, because that funeral actualy caused major server issues. It wasnt expected to become this big either. But because of the issues, its number became something meaningful. But an important note, it is a record that might be removed at some point. As any record that promotes something very unhealthy can face this. If someone is going to try to plan a death just for this purpose, it might very likely be a reason that its removed. But on that note, its just highly unlikely to happen because of a lot of factors that are very hard to control (hence it still exists).

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Originally Posted by UkcsAlias

And this is one of the things they wont do as it involves politics, and cannot be clearly defined either.

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I'm not expecting they would do it, just quoting it because it's one of the examples given above of things we could allegedly aspire to, but if it's "political" to do it on a broad scale then what makes it non-political when you make it about a single game?

My point is, it's useless as a "record", and making it interesting is more like a deep dive into cinema/literary history than a single-statement record. At best it's a piece of trivia.

My apologies for the delayed response.* I was spending time in downtown Los Angeles at the crypto.com center and going site seeing.



What's the motivation behind the Guinness Book of World Records?


I will start with an IRL event that happened almost ten years ago.* I still remember walking off the Harvard T-station and into Harvard square, passed the student center construction to the Qdoba shop.* I was starving and was going to use my Harvard ID with crimson dollars to get food.* It was the first time I had seen President Xi in person and his daughter.* The Chinese president was at Harvard University to see his daughter graduate in Psychology and we were all in line at Qdoba to get food.


So, all of a sudden, an Qdoba employee yelled in a typical bostonian demeanor* "Get to the back of the line!" I cringed when I realized what just happened.* This is the Chinese President of a superpower.* President Xi the official leader of BILLIONS of people, commands a military of hypersonic missiles that can carry nuclear warheads, and has rumored secret Chinese police stations worldwide (i.e. just like the CIA stations) was just treated like a commoner and humiliated in front of his daughter.


I still remember President Xi firmly grabbing another guy by his arm whom was lunging forward.* I had assumed this was his guard from the Ministry of State Security and whispered something while pointing to his daughter, and they all quietly walked to the back of the line.


They always say hindsight is 20/20 and all of us were shocked at the time witnessing a powerful world leader treated like that at Harvard University.* Like everyone else, we were paralyzed to take action.


I had wished I had done something like, "hello sir.* You know what….. I'm not hungry anymore.* Do u wish for u and your daughter to take my spot? I'm running late anyway and need to hop back on the T."**


But I didn't and now here we are almost ten years later and reading all these verified articles on Xinhua of western biases….that I can verify are absolutely true because I have seen it myself personally…..

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This game could definitely set the record for most degenerates contained in a single online community.

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This game could definitely set the record for most degenerates contained in a single online community.

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I was spending time in downtown Los Angeles at the crypto.com center and going site seeing.

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I will start with an IRL event that happened almost ten years ago.*

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The Chinese president was at Harvard University to see his daughter graduate in Psychology and we were all in line at Qdoba to get food.

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"Get to the back of the line!" I cringed when I realized what just happened.* This is the Chinese President of a superpower.* President Xi the official leader of BILLIONS of people, commands a military of hypersonic missiles that can carry nuclear warheads, and has rumored secret Chinese police stations worldwide (i.e. just like the CIA stations) was just treated like a commoner and humiliated in front of his daughter.

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I had wished I had done something like, "hello sir.* You know what….. I'm not hungry anymore.* Do u wish for u and your daughter to take my spot? I'm running late anyway and need to hop back on the T."**

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But I didn't and now here we are almost ten years later and reading all these verified articles on Xinhua of western biases….that I can verify are absolutely true because I have seen it myself personally…..

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Uh, what's going on? Is this still about Guinness world records somehow?

I feel like I just walked into the ending of MGS2.