let me tell u guys “Win-trading”

Based on what you know, you would think the process would look like this. I have a DRG here and I have a DRG here.

My DRG is playing well!

The DRG on the other side sucks...

The DRG on the other side just quit the game.

This is a “win-trading”？

yes，but let me say the other way.
I won't say who he is.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWyD8h-V...pg&name=medium
But let me tell you how he got here.

This is a gang of more than 10 people.
To do RMT behavior on ** server, tell people how stable he can be without being banned.

They would start in the wee hours of the morning when there were very few people, have one person start the match, and when the match was made, he wouldn't click confirm.

At that point, everyone else will match together.
bomb A new competition appeared.
Then they play around, as long as the character destined to score high doesn't have bad numbers.

Then, lest anyone doubt it, he will play some normal games.

For the record, these people are not newbies, they are just efficient RMT seekers



Anyone who saw him in a normal game would praise him and think he was "awesome."

Because he plays BLM, people don't deepen their suspicion because the "job" is so meta right now.

Are they in the minority?

NO！！！！！！NO！！！！！！NO！！！！！！
There are about 20 of them in GAIA and MANA! All in the top 30 and top 10, even number one.

I reported it three times. These people still use this way to ”Ranked up”.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV25HzmU...jpg&name=large

I think there's also separate report on SQEX website somewhere, I recommend gathering all the possible evidence and reporting them and if others have met them and have anything from screenshots to personal experience then have them also report them.

It might seem like an uphill battle but they have removed cheating top 1 from some NA datacenter and also another wintrader from EU datacenter, so they can do something at least about the most obvious ones.

Not sure how hard it is to catch a bigger group doing this, but keep trying, don't let the cheaters get away with it.

I've tried a lot of things to prove it, times of play, m.O. It all seems to come down to a lack of evidence.

It's almost impossible to gather evidence. They're fixed, but you don't know the exact time.

I only have access to one of them, and the rest of the gang doesn't have open access.

I'm Posting this post just to show that there is a cheating problem, and if the upcoming update allows all servers to match together, it will fix the problem.

Can't believe Mana have these win-trading, such an embarrassment :(

If you cant prove they are cheating you definetly have a skill issue.

Just Git good

/S

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Originally Posted by Garten

If you cant prove they are cheating you definetly have a skill issue.

Just Git good

/S

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I don't know what you're talking about. You can't match any of these guys. And I want you to see my ranking and how many times I play.

My evidence is absolutely overwhelming, but can you tell the Oscar actors that they're not acting properly?

this wouldn't be an issue if the game mode was populated and there were many people queuing for the game mode at all times of the day
but guess what, they messed up again and now it's dead at the end of the season, making win trading much easier

Your suppossed win trader has kills and assists?

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I don't know what you're talking about. You can't match any of these guys. And I want you to see my ranking and how many times I play.

My evidence is absolutely overwhelming, but can you tell the Oscar actors that they're not acting properly?

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I was kidding (Guess you missed the /s). I really feel your pain and Just wanted to make a Little fun of all the people here that Just comes to Say "get good" to everyone. And those ppl dont even log here with their mains >_>

I have played with the top rank 3 Heal Us (now rank 4) player in Chaos multiple times in a row. Sometimes we got matched together, sometimes we got matched against one another. The matches were good. She lost some and she won some.

Our top #1 Nergo Gigantes is a player I remember from Frontline as being (in almost all matches we got matched together) the best DPS dealer who often played as a tank.

We had the exact same situation in Light and the rank 1 player who constantly played only against same 1-3 people on the same job that threw against them. It took 4 weeks of reporting to get them removed from the leaderboards :p

Also use the Special Task Force report option from Square's own site to report it and provide all the details. People have been retroactively removed from leaderboards before and SE has sent rewards to the rightful owners after it too so not all hope is lost :p

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Your suppossed win trader has kills and assists?

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I know what you're describing. They do. They don't care about time. They care about results. If you were in a match, which is unlikely, you would see all the normal players do, except for one thing, which is that the "player" would win all the time, then lose a game or two on a regular basis to avoid arousing suspicion.

Speaking of which, why do I doubt it?



First of all, like I said at the beginning, they never play during normal hours, have a fixed win rate, and never lose points when leaderboards are updated.

Second, start the game at a ETtime. It's basically integer time.

And how they show off their "skills" without reservation on VCAPP.

These people gross me out.

I can only imagine the problem getting worse once SE adds gear/mounts to the top 100.

GMs should be given more autonomy by SE to better deal with wintrading cases. Having heard from ex-GM posts from multiple MMOs before, I know the scope of what they can do is incredibly limited.

really?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...7a9a2fa97a.jpg

lmao (message must be at least 10 characters)

Just read the first thread again. This is wintrading not RMT (real money trading), right?

Win trading is usually incentivized by RMT. But I don't think win-trading is as bad as OP says, at least in my DC. Rank 2, last time I checked, had around 1100 victories. You can assume they had around 800-900 defeats or something like that. That's a lot of time spent. If someone is win-trading their number of games played tends to be lower as well, as they do not want to lose the points they spent money on. But then there is always the possibility that they got lucky or are very skilled players and therefore have a high win rate.

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If someone is win-trading their number of games played tends to be lower as well

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Yes. Thus the case above is clear cut to me when you look at their # of victories. They probably lost 635 in a day trying to play by themselves or to attempt to make it less obvious.

Add the points they lost and they're at 9417 which is probably as high as they chose to go with RMT.

My point is: since you don't know if they exchange money would RMT really be the correct report?

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My point is: since you don't know if they exchange money would RMT really be the correct report?

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Win-trading is enough. Today in ranked, I reported a BLM sitting in one of the corners on the enemy side of the map, doing nothing and letting them win, after spamming Nice job because AST died in the beginning. Though most win-traders won't make it that obvious. I am guessing BLM in that game raged.

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So you did report them for "win-trading" and not RMT right? Did it do anything? They don't tell you, right?

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So you did report them for "win-trading" and not RMT right? Did it do anything? They don't tell you, right?

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Yes, I reported them for win-trading. And yes, they don't tell you anything, just a copy-pasted response to block the user and that they will investigate.