How much dev time is spent on housing?

I look at the new furniture, ginger bread walls, and all the other stuff they add and wonder why they put so much effort into it.

Not complaining. Love it. Love the variety and overall quality of housing decorations. Can always use more but at the same time...

Who is this all for? What percentage of players own houses? Take all the housing on every server. Are their more plots than total Viera and Hrothgar players? Why isn't that same care and effort put into actual playable races that ALL players can engage with if they choose. I don't have to enter a lottery for a chance to play Viera. Can apply this to all races really.

In general it seems housing customization is quickly outpacing character customization and that does not make sense.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

I look at the new furniture, ginger bread walls, and all the other stuff they add and wonder why they put so much effort into it.

Not complaining. Love it. Love the variety and overall quality of housing decorations. Can always use more but at the same time...

Who is this all for? What percentage of players own houses? Take all the housing on every server. Are their more plots than total Viera and Hrothgar players? Why isn't that same care and effort put into actual playable races that ALL players can engage with if they choose. I don't have to enter a lottery for a chance to play Viera. Can apply this to all races really.

In general it seems housing customization is quickly outpacing character customization and that does not make sense.

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Housing seems to be the largest issue so they at least want people to have options for whenever the issue is fixed?

I dunno. I got big, dumb brain. Unga Bunga smash is all I know.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

Who is this all for?

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There's this user named Sagacious. You may have seen them around... and I know they didn't make that gingerbread house for me.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

I look at the new furniture, ginger bread walls, and all the other stuff they add and wonder why they put so much effort into it.

Not complaining. Love it. Love the variety and overall quality of housing decorations. Can always use more but at the same time...

Who is this all for? What percentage of players own houses? Take all the housing on every server. Are their more plots than total Viera and Hrothgar players? Why isn't that same care and effort put into actual playable races that ALL players can engage with if they choose. I don't have to enter a lottery for a chance to play Viera. Can apply this to all races really.

In general it seems housing customization is quickly outpacing character customization and that does not make sense.

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furniture is easy, a lot of it is stuff they had to make for the cities and towns and dungeons anyways. It's also very popular, furniture design contests are a big hit event every time

Also, every FC house has private rooms for every member to decorate and apartments are free for all. If you want a private space to decorate or invite friends over to, you can have it
It's just one of the most popular things in the game so it get's attention

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

I look at the new furniture, ginger bread walls, and all the other stuff they add and wonder why they put so much effort into it.

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the thing is we dont know how much effort goes into housing vs everything else the devs are doing, for all we know housing could just be 1 or 2 people, square doesnt tell us the how many devs they have working on the game and who is working on what project

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

Who is this all for? What percentage of players own houses?

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since square doesnt tell us how many people are subbed to the game its impossible to know what percentage owns or can own a house vs how many people play but i'd guess its around 15% of the playerbase (depends on how you define FC houses is it owned by the FC leader or all FC officers or the entire FC) as for who this is for well its for people who own houses, it may be a small percentage but those that do own a house are still entitled to have new furnishings and other stuff, housing would be boring if we didnt get more options for customization

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

I look at the new furniture, ginger bread walls, and all the other stuff they add and wonder why they put so much effort into it.

Not complaining. Love it. Love the variety and overall quality of housing decorations. Can always use more but at the same time...

Who is this all for? What percentage of players own houses? Take all the housing on every server. Are their more plots than total Viera and Hrothgar players? Why isn't that same care and effort put into actual playable races that ALL players can engage with if they choose. I don't have to enter a lottery for a chance to play Viera. Can apply this to all races really.

In general it seems housing customization is quickly outpacing character customization and that does not make sense.

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last time I checked, furniture doesnt move. so no need to make sure it doesnt look all janky, clips or can wear gear. but feel free to think that the devs working on character or gear development dont apply care to their work.

also I doubt that the people doing characters or their gear, work on furniture. furniture can be made external to the team as it were and then the models brought into the game.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

There's this user named Sagacious.

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The love of my life you mean?

probably very little time, honestly.
Making a new housing zone and wards might be harder and timer consuming. But making furniture?

The devs adding new furniture and such doesn't bug me because people make some incredible stuff with housing and I always think it's cool. What does bug me is when they give away outdoor furniture for event rewards and I have no way to use it so it ends up wasting slots in a retainer's inventory. :P

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

last time I checked, furniture doesnt move. so no need to make sure it doesnt look all janky, clips or can wear gear. but feel free to think that the devs working on character or gear development dont apply care to their work.

also I doubt that the people doing characters or their gear, work on furniture. furniture can be made external to the team as it were and then the models brought into the game.

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My braids clip through many many many many armors. I doubt they care about that.

Every patch, they add in a little bit of everything. and I'll be honest. The housing items are ALWAYS what im the most excited for. Who are they making it all for? Me. That's right!!!!!!! Me. I'm the one in the crowd going 'omgomgomgomg!!' at the furniture lmao. I always link the image of whatever it is first and foremost to friends.

Believe it or not, there is a strong housing community in this game. Google HGXIV. HousingSnap. (ffxiv) HousingEden.
There are many many many players just like me. Also, most of those furniture were created during a housing furniture design contest. So its not all 100% the team having to rake their brains for things, some of it is player submitted ideas. and Luckily for us, Yoshi himself has said that he likes RP and has partken in it a few times himself. So he knows the importance of being able to build intricate immersive fantastic looking places.

I mean the same could be said about Savage or Ultimates.
I think it's fine to have content that a minority will engage with, it offers variety.

When you start trying to '' appeal to everyone '' things often tend to get fairly bland.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

My braids clip through many many many many armors. I doubt they care about that.

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Well, maybe in the graphical update?
This is a more complex issue tho than just adding new furniture, especially with how much gear and how many hairstyles there are.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

I mean the same could be said about Savage or Ultimates.
I think it's fine to have content that a minority will engage with, it offers variety.

When you start trying to '' appeal to everyone '' things often tend to get fairly bland.

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There is a world of difference between niche content that doesn't appeal to everyone, and the housing system where a ton of players literally can't have a house because there are none available.

Gotta love when stuff related to a specific dept. (art) gets lumped into "dev time". :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

Who is this all for? What percentage of players own houses?

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I don't think this is really relevant. Look at Savage and the % of people clearing it. Look at Ultimate and the % of players even just setting foot in there. And those contents take far more resources than furnitures while cater to probably even a smaller of player base. It's not really a 1 to 1 comparison, they do it for the shake of the overall health economy of the game.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

I don't think this is really relevant. Look at Savage and the % of people clearing it. Look at Ultimate and the % of players even just setting foot in there. And those contents take far more resources than furnitures while cater to probably even a smaller of player base. It's not really a 1 to 1 comparison, they do it for the shake of the overall health economy of the game.

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I'd wager more people participate in Savage then actively decorate housing (That is, decorate for more then an afternoon, doing more then just putting up some Maui Island heads in their yards)

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

There's this user named Sagacious. You may have seen them around... and I know they didn't make that gingerbread house for me.

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No I made it for the community to see. The exterior lights up from every part of the subdivision and is way bigger then the Cafe' I use to have. Yall know I crave attention and the gingerbread was made for me.

Believe it or not, there is a strong housing community in this game. Google HGXIV. HousingSnap. (ffxiv) HousingEden.

Exactly, housing is strong here and is getting stronger. People pay a sub just to keep the house when people finish a savage they quit playing the game and play other games till a new savage arrives. Just put a double moon effect on the central staircase landing come visit and leave a message.

However long it takes them to clone the drives for a new ward server.

They want to keep house owners happy while they're in their hostage situation :p