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HI! The discussion about new names for a certain duty roulette (i.e. the 50/60 blah blah blah roulette) has made its rounds already but, I would like to put my 2cents into the ring on this.
With that, my suggestion is this: Change the name for the "Duty roulette 50/60/70/80 Dungeons" to a simple "Legacy Max Dungeons" or "Legacy Cap Dungeons".
It helps with future expansions as well, since obviously we're going to keep adding more and more to it, so why keep adding a number to the name when we can put all that information in the description of the roulette page itself?
Don't know what else to put here, so thanks in advance for taking the time to read all that.
[Suggestion] New name for Duty roulette?
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06-15-2022, 06:46 AMJooceyBravo[Suggestion] New name for Duty roulette?
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06-15-2022, 06:58 AMRyuDragnier
Personally I'd have preferred if all 4-man dungeons and trials required for MSQ, leveling or not, were combined into MSQ roulette. Combine all non-MSQ required dungeons into a single roulette called Optional Dungeon roulette (that gives exp and tomes equal to the current leveling roulette). Keep Expert roulette. When the level cap increases, all previous expansion expert roulette dungeons are tossed into their rightful areas.
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06-15-2022, 07:10 AMryouma17no please for the love of Yda do not do this, keep the MSQ roulette as it is now i never want to run castrum meridianum or the praetorium ever againQuote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
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06-15-2022, 08:05 AMRyuDragnierEven though they're only 20 minutes now? Remember, they reworked them and Ultimate Weapon to be completely different. CM and Prae now take 20-30m tops, with the only cutscenes in CM being when you start, and right before Livia.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryouma17
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06-15-2022, 08:13 AMMomo_Kozuki
I'm curious how long the name will become when 10.0 drops, so no :D
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06-15-2022, 08:13 AMryouma17only if they make the cutscenes skippableQuote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
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06-15-2022, 10:52 AMShibi
Duty Roulette Levelling / Duty Roulette 50+ / Duty Roulette MSQ works quite well.
Although could likely slide a few of the HW into leveling now. -
06-15-2022, 02:06 PMJooceyBravoI feel like the way the roulettes are currently divided are good as they are, it’s just the naming I'm suggesting the change for.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
As more and more expansions come out, we’re going to get 10 levels per expansion unless something drastic is changed with how levels and progression are structured.
If we want to go down the route of redefining how the roulettes are structured, it couldn’t be called “Optional Dungeons” since a lot of them are no longer optional, even in the past we had to unlock them at some point during an expansion to gain access to the Expert roulette.
I don’t think a lot of people would enjoy having the MSQ roulette include things like Tam-Tara and Temple of Qarn, since those are story related, and accessed through the MSQ now. It would make a lot of sense having the three 4-man trials through the 1-50 story accessed through MSQ roulette though, since what we have in that roulette now is all 4-man content. -
06-15-2022, 02:08 PMhagare
they'll probably just rename the 70/80 DR to 1 yo max lvl - 1 dungeons if it gets too long
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06-15-2022, 02:31 PMRyuDragnierActually, Qarn is 100% optional, nothing requires you to beat it for MSQ. Or at least I can't seem to find a quest requiring it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JooceyBravo
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06-15-2022, 02:34 PMZomkei
what? you don't want to ask your friends if they wanna do duty roulette 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s 100s 110s... ?
Legacy Cap Dungeons sound good though -
06-15-2022, 05:18 PMFayt1203they could have change it, but there was a time u had to do Qarn it was not msq quest but the msq would be lock out if people had not done QarnQuote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
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06-15-2022, 06:00 PMTalithaSolarienIf you want to level up your Grand Company standing (which is completely optional) then you have to run Quarn (Aurum Vale and Dezmael as well). But nothing in the MSQ requires it otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
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06-16-2022, 01:46 AMRyuDragnierIt was like that back in the 2.x series, but I believe they dropped that requirement sometime since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fayt1203
On how things would change if we did my idea of Optional and MSQ, here's a list of optional dungeons during the leveling process that would be thrown in the Optional Dungeon roulette:
ARR: Halatali, Qarn, Cutter's Cry, Darkhold, Aurum Vale
HW: Dusk Vigil
SB: Shisui of the Violet Tides.
Those are the only optional leveling dungeons in the game, all the others are mandatory. As for the level cap dungeons before ShB that are mandatory MSQ (other than CM and Prae), we only have:
ARR: Snowcloak, Keeper of the Lake
HW: Aetherchemical Research Facility, Antitower, Sohr Khai, Xelphatol, Baelsar's Wall
SB: Ala Mhigo, Drowned City of Skalla, The Burn, Ghimlyt Dark
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06-16-2022, 09:26 AMTaleraRistainIt used to be required but I think they removed the post-ARR quest that required it. You had to go get a stone for a quest in Mor Dhona IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
To the OP, they could just change the name to "Level 50+ Dungeons"
That's how my friends and I identify it now for sake of ease -
06-16-2022, 10:55 AMDeveryn
I usually refer to the xp dungeons as x1-9, so maybe x0 for 50/60?
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06-16-2022, 11:37 AMJooceyBravoThe problem for me is that isn’t exactly right, because saying 50+ to me means 50-90 not, dungeons at x0 level.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaleraRistain
The dungeons in that roulette were at one point in time, released as max level dungeons for their respective expansions, hence the “Legacy Cap”. -
06-16-2022, 11:57 AMDeveryn
"Legacy Cap" might make sense, but it's also going to beg the question from a lot of people: "what's this mean?"