I feel like this is a very difficult issue for SE, especially in America, because even now there are bills in place to uphold traditional thinking of genders & identity for kids, and SE is trying to appeal to the new generation of gamers.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/nearly-240-anti-lgbtq-bills-filed-2022-far-targeting-trans-people-rcna20418
I feel that SE doesn't want to be caught up in a US state legal battle with parents that oppose the new thinking of gender identifications for their kids.
This is definitely a hot topic, and not something I think that can be done without careful consideration of not only US laws, but also respecting laws of other countries dealing with these sensitive topics.
Your thoughts?
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05-15-2022, 12:49 AMTempusFinisLGBTQ Representions in FFXIV
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05-15-2022, 12:51 AMRobynDaBank
Oh my Hydaelyn not again.
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05-15-2022, 12:54 AMjwilliam87
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05-15-2022, 12:54 AMLustre
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05-15-2022, 12:55 AMCyd3l
Plenty of other recent threads on this issue.
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05-15-2022, 01:19 AMIdowhatIwantClose this thread.Quote:
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05-15-2022, 04:00 AMEien713Better yet--delete this thread.Quote:
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05-15-2022, 04:01 AMZanarkand-Ronso
Great...Another One...
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05-15-2022, 04:11 AMVav2021
SE is not obligated to embrace woke western values. They can make the game to fit their vision as they see fit.
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05-15-2022, 04:15 AMKiao-KenNo. "oH, tHaN yOUr trANsPhObiC", I'm not BUTT, so be it. let the onslaught begin.Quote:
Originally Posted by TempusFinis
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05-15-2022, 04:18 AMKes13a
as a member of the community, I dont think SE needs to do... anything
certainly not a "hot topic" to anyone but trolls and "woke" tryhards trying to stir up drama
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05-15-2022, 04:18 AMRestonanceHow about your cult stops trying to force ideologies where it doesn't belong?Quote:
Originally Posted by TempusFinis
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05-15-2022, 04:21 AMVav2021I cant tell you how refreshing it is to see a fellow member of that group that just wants to relaxQuote:
Originally Posted by Kes13a
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05-15-2022, 04:27 AMVav2021I know you're probably not a transpose, but this is the gateway on how people end up disdaining a demographic -- it's endlessly and disproportionately shoved in your face, and if you question it, you're an (insert)phobe.Quote:
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05-15-2022, 04:32 AMColetergeist
Can it not all be contained in one thread?
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05-15-2022, 04:34 AMVav2021https://images.app.goo.gl/NkaEbhXz2HF9zgrF8Quote:
Originally Posted by Coletergeist
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05-15-2022, 05:26 AMKiao-KenThen so be it. (As someone who has delve into Google Scholar and written a plethora of APAs with peer reviews ranging from intuitive reviews to cynical passive aggressiveness, I humbly state that it's not worthwhile to embrace such subjects with "sincere" vocabulary nor grammatical accuracy on this topic (it's a game, FF14 that is). Hence, ones image does not constitute on the behalf of others "but this is the gateway on how people end up disdaining a demographic" to which I state; Then so be it.) Embrace the will of ZENOS; let their be mayhem and onslaught, feast on glory and death. Murder, be one with nature, for as without human definition, there's no right and wrong, only strong. UwUQuote:
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05-15-2022, 05:58 AMMaxilor
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05-15-2022, 06:47 AMFredco191Make your character a part of the LGBT community. Literally no one can tell you otherwise since it's your character.Quote:
Your thoughts?
And if that's not enough, head-canon some background NPCs. Who's to say you're wrong about a character who hasn't appeared in a cutscene where they're more than just someone in the crowd or someone having a conversation in the distance? -
05-15-2022, 06:52 AMTheMightyMolluskI've been shipping Cid/Nero since my first Praetorium and you will never convince me otherwise.Quote:
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05-15-2022, 07:48 AMBunnycakeWe all did, we alllll didQuote:
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05-15-2022, 07:55 AMVelvet_Lunarfang
how about NO. So sick of all of this. Can someone just push that red button and undo it all
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05-15-2022, 07:57 AMTitanWomen
I agree with you 100% Your excellency. A lot of players I’ve seen on here are indeed TRANSPHOBES.
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05-15-2022, 08:07 AMSoge01
No thank you. Keep gender politics and such out of video games. That's what you have protests, Twitter and politicians for.
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05-15-2022, 08:12 AMAdamantini
If I got $1 for every topic like this opened in the last few weeks, I would be paying my sub right now.
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05-15-2022, 08:12 AMShibi
I wish we had moderators, even if just to clear up the poor quality bait.
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05-15-2022, 08:41 AMGaiusDrakonDude this isn't meQuote:
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05-15-2022, 09:52 AMDBriggs304
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05-15-2022, 09:55 AMHolyReign
I really need to work on my Ignore list, atleast the trolls are mixing it up between SAM/Addons/LGBTQ+ threads, so that's at least impressive, I guess?
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05-15-2022, 10:02 AMDarthgummibear
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05-15-2022, 10:38 AMSkiros
I love threads like these because the amount of bizarre unhinged comments people make never fail to amuse me and my FC.
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05-15-2022, 10:49 AMOopsy
https://lgbtqgamearchive.files.wordp...npx-couple.png
https://youtu.be/zYPF_bOimzM
One problem is language.
Pronouns and much of gender identity issues are social constructs.... That may not exist in the same form in different cultures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japane...me%20frequency.
Japanese pronouns do not have exactly the same kind of meaning or gentrification as english pronouns.
I play lalafell. I can pick he or she with no real model different... though I definably maxed the boob slider... I think? Yet another reason lalafell is the master race. -
05-15-2022, 11:09 AMSturmChurrohttps://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.c...lm_ios_802.pngQuote:
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05-15-2022, 11:11 AMVav2021I made mine, then there was a few that came after (mostly from some notorious trolls)Quote:
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05-15-2022, 11:11 AMMaxilorBecause a certain user is going through all of the old threads and bumping all of the LGBT Related ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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05-15-2022, 11:37 AMCorueI've not touched the forums or the game in about 2 years and I come back to see it's as bizarre as ever,Quote:
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05-15-2022, 11:41 AMSoge01Some things change, but many things stay the sameQuote:
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05-15-2022, 12:05 PMColetergeist
Gods, please let all these threads die.
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05-15-2022, 01:50 PMVav2021It is as it is. Both can happen for the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soge01
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05-15-2022, 03:12 PMiluke77
ive said this a million times these threads are a menace .. as soon as one dies another one pops up and then the arguments and bs starts again our voice isnt being heard which cause's others to retaliate ..
As soon as these threads pop up they should be merged in to one super thread where people can "discuss" in other words argue and rant over and over about this without it filling up the forums with a beating a dead horse topic again !!
OR
just politely shut them down !!