Change loot system in Aglaia

For the love of god please change the loot system in Aglaia to a token system like Asphodelos. I've run this god forsaken raid 7 times now and have yet to see a healer chest or hands piece drop. This kinda stinks of something Blizzard would do in their poor decision making in not respecting the players time. True you were not guaranteed a piece depending on your roll, but at least you were guaranteed a drop.

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Originally Posted by Twinbros

For the love of god please change the loot system in Aglaia to a token system like Asphodelos. I've run this god forsaken raid 7 times now and have yet to see a healer chest or hands piece drop. This kinda stinks of something Blizzard would do in their poor decision making in not respecting the players time. True you were not guaranteed a piece depending on your roll, but at least you were guaranteed a drop.

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Changing this and the raids to one single token would make things easier to deal with. Dont wanna run this for 85 runs and never see what I want/need <.>

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Originally Posted by Twinbros

This kinda stinks of something Blizzard would do in their poor decision making in not respecting the players time.

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Saying it's something Blizzard would do doesn't make a whole lot of sense when there hasn't been tokens since alliance raids were first introduced.

But I do agree. It would be nice to not have to run a raid multiple times a week because the item I desire did not drop.

So....you'd rather be fighting 8 people for a token instead of 2 people for a job specific gear drop? Hope your roll luck is good.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

So....you'd rather be fighting 8 people for a token instead of 2 people for a job specific gear drop? Hope your roll luck is good.

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I mean, either you're fighting 8 people for a piece of gear or you're hoping that 1 out of the 2 gear pieces is the one out of 3 (?) possible types and is 1 out of the 7 sets of gear. I feel like it's less frustrating to lose a roll for something than it is to run through it and have it not show up at all also.

I’d rather they add a token system like in savage.

For those unaware, in each savage floor when you clear you get a book, once you have enough you can exchange them for pieces of gear specific to that boss, and so it acts as rng insurance so you’ll be able to get any item you want/need with enough time/kills.

I understand not wanting to add tons of currency to the game but I don’t think adding a token for the alliance raids would be excessive.

Well you could just upgrade crafting gear to the same ilvl as the gear that drops from Aglaia (this is what I do). The one piece of gear is just a neat bonus for me to not have to worry about purchasing bottles of rain. It makes very little difference to me personally if I get gear or not. I'm really just there for the coin (and a chance of getting the loot at the end).

A new alliance raid, a new thread about people who don't understand how loot works. It's the same as the rest of the game.

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Originally Posted by LeonKeyh

I mean, either you're fighting 8 people for a piece of gear or you're hoping that 1 out of the 2 gear pieces is the one out of 3 (?) possible types and is 1 out of the 7 sets of gear. I feel like it's less frustrating to lose a roll for something than it is to run through it and have it not show up at all also.

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When the normal raids first came out I spent hours running the same fight over and over just to get a chest piece token. Tokens are nice, but at the same time its not that great fighting the entire group on a roll. Alliance raids are also not a primary way through gear progression so overall I believe the current system is perfectly fine. You still get a coin at the end of the raid to go towards getting your 600 gear.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I’d rather they add a token system like in savage.

For those unaware, in each savage floor when you clear you get a book, once you have enough you can exchange them for pieces of gear specific to that boss, and so it acts as rng insurance so you’ll be able to get any item you want/need with enough time/kills.

I understand not wanting to add tons of currency to the game but I don’t think adding a token for the alliance raids would be excessive.

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Erm...You get a coin when you finish the alliance raid that functions similar to the books.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Erm...You get a coin when you finish the alliance raid that functions similar to the books.

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I think he knows about the coin, but they obviously don't do the same thing.

Bump. I don't farm for RNG glamour drops, but I can understand why some people do it. Definitely shouldn't be so hard. Alliance raid gear is already pretty useless when you can get equivalent or better gear from tomestones, crafting, or savage. So there's no reason it should be so hard to get what you want. Like, do the devs actually want people to use it or not?

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

Well you could just upgrade crafting gear to the same ilvl as the gear that drops from Aglaia (this is what I do). The one piece of gear is just a neat bonus for me to not have to worry about purchasing bottles of rain. It makes very little difference to me personally if I get gear or not. I'm really just there for the coin (and a chance of getting the loot at the end).

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The item drop and coin are certainly an attractive element for me, but I also love the fight against Nald'thal with 'In the Balance' playing!

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Erm...You get a coin when you finish the alliance raid that functions similar to the books.

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They don't do the same thing at all. Savage tokens are a secondary way of acquiring the specific gear pieces that drop from the savage raid. Alliance coins are only for upgrading an unrelated piece of gear.

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

Well you could just upgrade crafting gear to the same ilvl as the gear that drops from Aglaia (this is what I do). The one piece of gear is just a neat bonus for me to not have to worry about purchasing bottles of rain. It makes very little difference to me personally if I get gear or not. I'm really just there for the coin (and a chance of getting the loot at the end).

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Doesn't work with the Healer Chest sadly, since both crafted and tome have a large chunk of Piety, making them inferior even to the 580 Normal raid chest. The Aglaia healer chest is the second best in the game after the P4S chest.

This Raid is already so boring, every damn week over and over again for the last piece. I have never seen those Panthean Sollerets of Maiming. All I see is Dancer, Samurai and Ninja Gear. I swear, right after I got my last piece, i will never ever do this crap Raid again, even not for the Story.

5 Raids later .... just Dancer, Samurai and Sage Gear. Thx SE for this shit Raid and the frustation that comes with it. 6 Weeks, countless Raids and still not the last Piece.

Endwalker shit
All Dungeons 0815
Raids boring as hell
Story ... wait what Story? It was so unbelievable crap, that I will not even buy the next Expansion.

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

Well you could just upgrade crafting gear to the same ilvl as the gear that drops from Aglaia (this is what I do). The one piece of gear is just a neat bonus for me to not have to worry about purchasing bottles of rain. It makes very little difference to me personally if I get gear or not. I'm really just there for the coin (and a chance of getting the loot at the end).

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doesn't work when the substats are butt. enough of the crafted gear has spell speed that RDM can't use it.

I don't want more tokens. /cry
Make it stop. Make it stop.

I've been running Aglaia since its inception and have seen all of ONE Caster chest piece (of which I lost the roll).

I run sometimes as much as 10-12 runs on weekends and haven't seen a single caster piece at all the last fortnight.

Extremes have Totems. Savage have Books. The simple answer is... Alliance have Coins.
The Coin is a weekly locked piece, the same as a Book.

Just allow gear to be bought with X number of coins like we do in Savage raiding.

I honestly never got why they didn't do tokens in alliance after CT. Not only could you get them from the duties themselves, but they also drop in multiples from desynthing sometimes. Just make the token a weekly separate from the gear drops and it'd make life that much easier. I'm past the gear from having done p1-3s a bunch, but farming glams from current alliance raids is always a slog.

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Originally Posted by Twinbros

For the love of god please change the loot system in Aglaia to a token system like Asphodelos. I've run this god forsaken raid 7 times now and have yet to see a healer chest or hands piece drop. This kinda stinks of something Blizzard would do in their poor decision making in not respecting the players time. True you were not guaranteed a piece depending on your roll, but at least you were guaranteed a drop.

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Funny enough i was on the opposite, got the healer one on my 2nd run, goon on the third, only to have those drop like 80% the time..... xD

The loot rng sucks and id really love some backup...IF at least on the next patch we could get an npc to trade any piece for another of the same kind....