Can we increase the drop rates of Aglaia loot please?

It's bad enough that you are limited to one item a week.

It's bad enough that ques are absolutely atrocious for the new raid right now since it's not on the roulette for god knows why and the community has almost completely abandoned it now. Especially as a tank, que's take as much as 2 hours during PRIME TIME.

But when the drop rates are so garbage, like the tank chest, it's just absurd. I have spent the entire week trying to farm the chest, having to deal with 40min ques minimum, the longest being just over 2 hours, only for it not drop even once. Reset is almost here and I still haven't gotten it.

Now I understand you want maximum milking of MAU's and so keeping people farming as long as possible is what you want, but this is just bad. The instance is basically abandoned at this point as barely anyone still runs it, and since it's a max level instance you can't turn off sync and solo it, so having to deal with nightmarishly long ques only for the item you seek to never drop is just hot garbage. At this point just make every single item a guaranteed drop each run so glam farmers can get this over with.

I think the queue problem is a role specific issue. Throughout the week to even Monday queue times for DPS are extremely low. This is due to the fact that out of the 24 slots for the raid 15 of those are all DPS. Tanks get the short end of the stick for 24 mans, only 3 slots for each instance of 24. It's been this way since they went to the 3 tank model for 24 mans back in HW.

I didn't know it wasn't on the roulette. I wonder why. But every Tuesday I queue up and can get the item I'm looking for in about 3-4 runs. I got the tank chest as a BLM the other day, it's good to have a list of things to greed on even if its not the main item you are looking for so can farm a bit more efficiently. If you're only down to that one item though it may be harder.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

I didn't know it wasn't on the roulette. I wonder why.

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Current alliances are never in the roulette, at least for a patch or so.

Huh I'm pretty sure I got Aglaia through Alliance roulette a few times already

The instance is a lot of things. Abandoned is not one of them. I don't know how to fix whatever issues you are having, but the instance isn't dead by any means. The drop rate of the tank chest is also the same as everything else on a per boss basis I think.

Absolutely not abandoned content on my DC at least. Queue times for it rarely take longer than 5 mins unless I queue up at some ungodly hour, and honestly the gear (for me at least) is at best a side-grade to the tome stuff so I just lot on whatever piece looks good at the moment since I level everything and could use it anyway. Obviously not the same experience for everyone but this is how every Alliance Raid is when it's current so I don't know what to tell you.

They could maybe look into offering role-specific coffers as rewards since so many jobs are available now.

Tank queues are always abysmal for raids, and everyone wants that chest.


Also, drop rates are equal for all pieces. RNG is RNG.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

The instance is a lot of things. Abandoned is not one of them. I don't know how to fix whatever issues you are having, but the instance isn't dead by any means. The drop rate of the tank chest is also the same as everything else on a per boss basis I think.

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It's basically dead on Primal. It takes an eternity to get a pop, at least as a tank, now here even during prime hours (over 30-40 mins average) . And god help you if you que after primetime. Be prepared to have something else to do to pass time because you could watch a full length movie by the time it pops.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

I didn't know it wasn't on the roulette. I wonder why. But every Tuesday I queue up and can get the item I'm looking for in about 3-4 runs. I got the tank chest as a BLM the other day, it's good to have a list of things to greed on even if its not the main item you are looking for so can farm a bit more efficiently. If you're only down to that one item though it may be harder.

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I have never seen the tank chest drop since the instance was release. Not even once. Boots, gloves? Almost every run. Chest? Nope. Just ran it again after 40 minutes of waiting only for nothing to drop this time. This is why RNG-based systems are terrible because somebody may get extremely lucky while someone else spends forever farming something someone else got in one try. There is zero reason for RNG-based drop rates. Just make it guaranteed, all this does is make people burn themselves out on a piece of content farming for something they want.

Content used to favour dragoon loot before but since EW they heavily favour ranged drops. That is my RNG experience

I forgot to even run it this week. Whoops.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

It's basically dead on Primal. It takes an eternity to get a pop, at least as a tank, now here even during prime hours (over 30-40 mins average) . And god help you if you que after primetime. Be prepared to have something else to do to pass time because you could watch a full length movie by the time it pops.

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sounds like you need to make a dps friend because they'll speed your queue up massively

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I have never seen the tank chest drop since the instance was release. Not even once. Boots, gloves? Almost every run. Chest? Nope. Just ran it again after 40 minutes of waiting only for nothing to drop this time. This is why RNG-based systems are terrible because somebody may get extremely lucky while someone else spends forever farming something someone else got in one try. There is zero reason for RNG-based drop rates. Just make it guaranteed, all this does is make people burn themselves out on a piece of content farming for something they want.

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And I've done two or three runs where tank chest dropped and was discarded because no one rolled for it. RNG is RNG and a fickle mistress.

I've been going for tank loot myself and just doing the raids as a dps when I queue solo. And still get my weekly loot.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

It's basically dead on Primal. It takes an eternity to get a pop, at least as a tank, now here even during prime hours (over 30-40 mins average) . And god help you if you que after primetime. Be prepared to have something else to do to pass time because you could watch a full length movie by the time it pops.

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As others said. 24 player alliance raid queues for Tank are generally long because there are only 3 tank slots per 24 ppl. It's pretty much the only content where tank doesn't insta-queue almost all the time.

The same number of gear pieces drop every time. The chance of the thing you want filling one of those slots is the same as any other possible result on the slot. Blame RNG for not seeing the single item you want. Though some would say hidden laws of probability state that the things you want from RNG will default to a 0.00000000001% chance of appearing just because it's the thing you want.

Lastly. The queue time you're claiming sounds like a gross exaggeration because I've queued that as a tank as well a few times and it was nowhere near that long a wait.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Lastly. The queue time you're claiming sounds like a gross exaggeration because I've queued that as a tank as well a few times and it was nowhere near that long a wait.

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I am currently sitting in que right now that has surpassed 30 minutes with zero other players qued up even after all this time. It's dead.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

I am currently sitting in que right now that has surpassed 30 minutes with zero other players qued up even after all this time. It's dead.

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Welcome to queueing as a tank for an alliance raid, and queueing for a busy one at that. It's not dead regardless of what you think.

You want to have fun with drop rates try collecting all the field notes in Bozja. I have 5 bikes and that's only cause I'm a crazy person.

I understand you're not having luck with the tank chest but I have it on a number of my alts and they're not even queuing as a tank. Can't speak for primal but I can speak for Aether, Chaos, Crystal, Materia and Light and the queue times are fine for healers and dps.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

I am currently sitting in que right now that has surpassed 30 minutes with zero other players qued up even after all this time. It's dead.

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It's Sunday. Most people have already gotten their drop for the week and don't want to queue for it until Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

It's Sunday. Most people have already gotten their drop for the week and don't want to queue for it until Tuesday.

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on top of that, it's mothers' day. probably less people in game since they're, y'know, doing mothers' day things

I only care with tank gear so it's ezpz for me :)

Here are my experiences with the raid’s loots & queues up till now:
• 1st week: Healer Top. Obtained in 3rd run. Queues were relatively fast, under 5 minutes
• 2nd week: Fending top. Obtained in 2nd run. Queues were okay’ish, around 12m or so.
• 3rd week: Scouting top. Obtained in 1st run, yay! Queue was instant!
• 4th week: Aiming top. Obtained in 8th run (yuck). Queues were relatively fast, each under 5 minutes.

Next weekly reset my goal will be the caster top. Honestly, are we even surprised at this point? RNG’s gonna be RNG. While I agree they can be bad at times, but what else can you offer as solution? I remembered one of the forum dwellers proposed to have the raid token to be tradeable for gears but only for when the content is already outdated; strictly for glamour purpose that is.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

I am currently sitting in que right now that has surpassed 30 minutes with zero other players qued up even after all this time. It's dead.

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If that's the case then I would assume you're more likely 10th in the queue or something and too high up to see anyone else filling healer and DPS slots next to the people who are 1-3 in the queue.

Whether it's DC-based or role-based, I have had no issues queuing as DPS so far. It's always less than five minutes wait.

There is really three main things that contribute to long tank queues for alliance raids, other than CT, if you are queuing for them directly.

1. The limit of three tanks per raid.
2. People who only have CT unlocked due to story requirements.
3. People who queue naked so that they end up in one of the CT raids.

The longest I had to wait, on a Wednesday evening, as tank was 35 minutes.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

on top of that, it's mothers' day. probably less people in game since they're, y'know, doing mothers' day things

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Probably pick up tomorrow because of ppl that forgot or didn't get a chance to do it already for this week trying to get something before weekly reset.

Just go in as DPS and roll on the tank stuff. If this is for gearing up for dungeons, maybe go another route. If it's for glamour, just relax and it'll drop eventually. The way these series work, the first one remains relevant all the way to the end.

It should be noted that this is your best chance of acquiring tank gear without having to queue as tank to do so. When people can only roll on a single piece per week, they're less likely to be after that specific piece even if they can claim Need on it and you can't.