Suggestion: The ability to equip animation sets of other races/genders as an item

https://i.imgur.com/MnnuP5Q.png

I posted this elsewhere but I wanted it to get more visibility and discussion as I think it could potentially be a great thing for people to have. (Apologies for the re-post)

The concept is pretty straight forward, you would have a slot on your character screen that allows you to equip an item that changes your current race and gender animations to that of another race and/or gender. And I mean everything, running/walking, idle poses, sitting animations, all of it.

Now, I understand that the reality of developing such an item would be somewhat complicated as animations would need to be scaled up and down for races they weren't originally intended for. But lets be real, it's totally doable and there are more than a few cases of different races with different proportions already sharing idle poses, so we know that it can be done.

As much as some people would despise the idea, I think it would be a great mogstation addition, if that's what it would take to make this a real feature for the game. I know that I personally would be more than happy to pay a few dollars to change the way my character animates and the extra freedom and customization that it would bring.

Pretty good idea can't argue with that. However I still despise it :)

I'd love this. However if it were a mog station item in which we had to pay for each individual animation, I would absolutely hate it.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

I'd love this. However if it were a mog station item in which we had to pay for each individual animation, I would absolutely hate it.

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It wouldn't be each individual animation, the item would give you access to the whole set for the race/gender you chose to get. So if you decided for example, to get [Spirit of the Female Miqote] and equipped it. That then changes everything your character does to animate like a female Miqote, it would almost be like changing race/gender without changing your look at all.

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Originally Posted by CaffeinatedKing

It wouldn't be each individual animation, the item would give you access to the whole set for the race/gender you chose to get. So if you decided for example, to get [Spirit of the Female Miqote] and equipped it. That then changes everything your character does to animate like a female Miqote, it would almost be like changing race/gender without changing your look at all.

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I'd be down for picking animations, though I'm not sure how much I like the idea if changing one animation changes all animations. I like the animations I have now except for like 2. I wouldn't want to lose all of them to get rid of only 2.

I think your idea is well thought out, and I love the photo you included, but something like this would displease a lot of people… Myself included. I’m sorry

I’m a person who would like more significant differences between the races. By making each race’s animations accessible, the races would be further homogenised and any sense of individuality between them is gone.

Also, I personally can’t imagine SE going through with this route because what makes the other races appealing is what earns SE Fantasia sales.

If it were possible, I’d like them to create more variety of different animations/idles for our races, so it doesn’t feel as limited as it does now.

I just want the Princess Run lol!

Me: Female Highlander
Also Me: /equips Male Lalafel animations, proceeds to /panic

Jokes aside, male Lala emotes are really good.

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

I think your idea is well thought out, and I love the photo you included, but something like this would displease a lot of people… Myself included. I’m sorry

I’m a person who would like more significant differences between the races. By making each race’s animations accessible, the races would be further homogenised and any sense of individuality between them is gone.

Also, I personally can’t imagine SE going through with this route because what makes the other races appealing is what earns SE Fantasia sales.

If it were possible, I’d like them to create more variety of different animations/idles for our races, so it doesn’t feel as limited as it does now.

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I'd personally value more options for self-expression with our characters over preserving an aspect of racial identity.

It's always bugged me that Xaela females are stuck with very feminine emotes despite their cultural background and the more proud and confident emotes utilized by Roegadyn and Highlander females would arguably suit them better.

They'd probly have to limit lalafell animations or greatly change them for other races, but i like this idea alot tbh

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

It's always bugged me that Xaela females are stuck with very feminine emotes despite their cultural background and the more proud and confident emotes utilized by Roegadyn and Highlander females would arguably suit them better.

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Agreed, but the last sentence in my post stated I’d like them to create new ones with more of a variety of personalities, but more in theme for our races. This could branch out to making new confident emotes for the Xaela and so on.

I guess I just don’t understand the appeal of going back and working on unlocking old cosmetics/animations, when we could be moving forward and have more things that are new.

In this case, we’ll just have to agree to disagree :)

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

Agreed, but the last sentence in my post stated I’d like them to create new ones with more of a variety of personalities, but more in theme for our races. This could branch out to making new confident emotes for the Xaela and so on.

I guess I just don’t understand the appeal of going back and working on unlocking old cosmetics/animations, when we could be moving forward and have more things that are new.

In this case, we’ll just have to agree to disagree :)

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It's mostly an appeal for something that is presumed to be mostly easy to do. Making new animations takes resources and dev time. Making it so we can use existing animations on more chars, is presumably just a flip of a switch.

Well, your thread certainly went better than mine did...

That aside, I'm in favour of them letting us choose animations somehow, be it through character creation itself (which was my proposal) or an equippable item like your idea. All of the races are humanoid with plantigrade feet (unlike WoW's Draenei, Tauren etc.) so there should be nothing stopping them being able to swap animations, aside from maybe Lalafell and (male) Roegadyn/Hrothgar potentially being incompatible due to their proportional differences, as well as some of them having tails while others don't... but adding tail movement would still be less work than animating anything from scratch.

Personally I don't care that it would homogenize them, they're already very similar across the board, I'd rather focus on my own character(s) and how they stand to benefit than the races as a whole...

I like this idea in general, but I really wish people would stop asking for things to be added that cost more money when we give them millions of dollars every month in subscription fees.

We need this in the game. Especially if it can change the generic idle stance to another race's. I'd use it on my female highlander and male Miqo'te so they'd finally look more relaxed.

PSO2 has let you use the other gender's emotes for nearly a decade. I'm honestly shocked FF14 still doesn't have this.

Give me fem Viera animations on fem Au Ra and I'd be thrilled.

Throw in Viera height too while I'm aiming for the stars.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

Personally I don't care that it would homogenize them, they're already very similar across the board, I'd rather focus on my own character(s) and how they stand to benefit than the races as a whole...

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I know. But in addition to what I previously said, even if this thing were to come to fruition I would rather the restricted races are kept out of it.

The thing is, it would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for the limited races. We’re not allowed to have headgear, despite years of our constant pleas.. but imagine if the other races then received access to Viera and Hrothgar’s emotes

Any sense of ‘uniqueness’ we were initially promised is just faded, we can’t wear headgear but everyone gets our emotes/animations

That’s my worry… sorry if my post came across blunt, I don’t want to sound confrontational :/

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Give me fem Viera animations on fem Au Ra and I'd be thrilled.

Throw in Viera height too while I'm aiming for the stars.

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This right here, the dream...

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

The thing is, it would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for the limited races. We’re not allowed to have headgear, despite years of our constant pleas.. but imagine if the other races then received access to Viera and Hrothgar’s emotes

Any sense of ‘uniqueness’ we were initially promised is just faded, we can’t wear headgear but everyone gets our emotes/animations

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... there's no denying Viera and (especially) Hrothgar have it rough rn, so I get where you're coming from.

That said, the way I see this happening is it would come *after* they're done with everything else (hair, hats compatibility, female Hrothgar etc.)

while i want this, as others testing has shown it isnt quite as easy as just "tell the game to use the other emote" heck even male and female hyru SAGE idle animations arent 100% compatable... AND THEY ARE LITTERALY JUST MIRRORED


its a bit more work then most expect, they would have to go trough each emote and make sure it works with each race


Hrothgar and lalas would not work with most emotes, and vice versa and some vierra emotes would look incredible odd

If you wanna talk odd, it'd probably be more Miqo'te than Viera emotes looking weird as hell on anyone else. Y'know, like nya~

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

If you wanna talk odd, it'd probably be more Miqo'te than Viera emotes looking weird as hell on anyone else. Y'know, like nya~

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If can't see a Hrothgar do the neko pose then what's even the point of the game?

I'd love the male Au Ra idle animation where he crosses his arms, love the leg pose on that one. Also one of the female Midlander Hyur idles.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...96/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...08/unknown.png

On that note, something that came up in my own thread was that, rather than take a race's animations wholesale, they could instead put together "personality types" using a mix from this or that race/gender, depending. That would be more work, to ensure the idle stance is consistent throughout, so idk...

*Cur bump*

This idea needs more attention. :)

I also made a suggestion about this topic in the game itself. I suggested to add another special gatherer/crafter 'the traveling Scribe'. One that is both, gatherer and crafter. Somehow..., collecting 'information' and writing (crafting) some kind of these 'Ballroom Etiquette' books. This books for example can contain one emote or pose from another race or gender.

And then have another emote/pose menu, where you can set which emotes/poses you want to set for your character. For example which ones for idle or sitting, and which for joy, surprise, laugh, (and so on) and which pose for example with drawn darknkight weapon, and so on.

I don't know if this would be possible, because I have no clue about programming, but I thought it could be nice to have an option to 'collect' those emotes and poses. Some of these Ballroom Etiquette books could be personal binded and some could be tradable.

What do you think about the idea? :3

Ah btw! The Scribe should be able to glam every piece, regardless of job or level.
Could be also some kind of 'fashion' job, when it's about glamour. : D