Would you like to buy a beer for the devteam?

Hey, thanks for checking my thread out. I was just discussing with my friend that also plays how cool it would be if something like what I put in the title existed for the FF14 team. I got the idea when I saw that a restaurant offered a charge that was "buy the cook a beer" essentially allowing you to reward the staff for an excellent meal above and beyond. We then had a pretty sweet idea, which goes something like:

New mogstation item is pitched in an update, said item is priced a bit high, with the 'extra' proceeds going to doing something fun for the dev team. Company outing, party, buying them cool office swag, whatever. The results of the funding is then shown in the following live letter or some such public outreaching showing how our money was spent and how it was fun for those involved.


Idk seems like a cool idea, I know something like what I described might not scale super well for a really large team like we have, but in the off chance that it might give someone a better idea, I figured it was worth putting it out in the universe.

Anyway, thanks for reading. Hope you have a great day.
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My brother in christ, what?

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Originally Posted by Denji

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My brother in christ, what?

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Yeah I'm with him.

I pay them with my monthly sub and the occasional store purchase to maintain a game I still mostly enjoy. I'm not here to fund their recreational activities, even less so after having my intelligence insulted before this most recent patch went live.

I buy them beer every few months a year for the price of $13.99 United States Dollarz.

That said, the sentiment is cute but I'm not wanting to give them more money to do stuff like
this when I'm not particularly happy with the state of the game. So no.

while its a cute idea
1) i dont trust SE not to blow the proceeds on cryptotrash
2) tipping is not really a thing in japan

EDIT: remember when Blizzard had the community buy a store item promising the profits would supplement their E-sports tournament prize pool and then just refused to fund the thing themselves?

Bro they have more than enough money buy themselves a beer.

No thank you. Not only have I not seen anything in game recently that was excellent or above and beyond, I'm pretty sure that they can pay for their own beers.

I'd buy them a Beer, but first they have to buy a NFT of it first, since they seem quite interested in that topic.

You're a very kind and sweet person for even considering this. Would it actually work? Probably not. Every single time things like 'tips' come into the equation, corporations immediately decide to just pay staff less and force them to rely on the tips instead of actual payment instead. And that is just a huge pain in the neck for everyone involved. When managers hear anything about a tip, they start foaming at the mouth and want in. There's no way of getting out of it. They're going to feel entitled to a cut of whatever their employees are getting. So. I would say only thing that would work is if these people put up little 'ko fi's or whatever they are but that would probably be a disaster too lmao. Just support via your sub and maybe a mog item here and there. Your heart is in the right place at least.

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Originally Posted by Blindedfayt

New mogstation item is pitched in an update, said item is priced a bit high, with the 'extra' proceeds going to doing something fun for the dev team. Company outing, party, buying them cool office swag, whatever. The results of the funding is then shown in the following live letter or some such public outreaching showing how our money was spent and how it was fun for those involved.

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Nah I’m good

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Originally Posted by Denji

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My brother in christ, what?

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no no, hear them out, he wants devs to work while drunk, I approve that. it was when yoshida was drunk that they started bringing back old collabs

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I love the comments in this thread. This really shows the sentiment in the community right now, a thread like this wouldn't have been received this way awhile back.

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I can honestly say I made the same face.

I'd rather them not having any crack ideas to add into the game, thanks. I like them when they're sober.

Some people in this community have a very weird parasocial relationship with Yoshida and the developers.

yeah, nah.

In light of recent events, they should likely consider switching to drink tea or water.

No thank you. We don't need them to get further behind what they are now with new content. I'm pretty sure they don't need beer which could cause them bad health conditions.

The Devs are not your friends, sure some may have passion for their work and maybe enjoy it but ultimately ... you do your job you get your money.

None would be in the dev team if not for one motivational factor ... money, there not there for the players and you know what ... that's how live works and no one can fault them for it because that's what almost everyone does in their own way.

And with the current game cycle and content, I'd rather not get them the idea they need to be rewarded.

Might be a good idea. If they get drunk enough then they might accidentally give each job a distinct and fun identity

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Some people in this community have a very weird parasocial relationship with Yoshida and the developers.

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Yeah its pretty strange. If you dare say anything negative about Yoshi P and the devs, these types of people will come out of the woodwork to ridicule you, especially on the FFXIV subreddit.

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Yeah its pretty strange. If you dare say anything negative about Yoshi P and the devs, these types of people will come out of the woodwork to ridicule you, especially on the FFXIV subreddit.

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Typical hero worship. You see it with any popular person (such as Huss of Lips, Toby Fox, JKR, Stan Lee, Notch, that sunny-d coloured man who was in a white-coloured house for a few years, Rebecca Sugar, etc etc.) Once you achieve a certain level of popularity you'll always end up with a group of people whose obsession overrides all logic and reason. It essentially becomes a cult.

Whether they're good or bad, these people have these groups that form around them that lash out at any naysayers.

We're gonna accidentally summon a Yoshi-P primal at this rate.

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We're gonna accidentally summon a Yoshi-P primal at this rate.

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Maybe that's SE's master plan for world domination or something.

No. Let them people work, I'm not paying extra for them to have fun or whatever. They can have fun when they'll come home.

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Rebecca Sugar

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why her? :confused:

OP, you're a kind person, please, never change.

That said, keep in mind that Mr. Naoki Yoshida is also a member of the board of directors of SQEX (A multi million dollars company), director of one, if not their most successful game.

He has enough goodwill inside the company to make a lot of things happen, including rewarding a job well done.

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why her? :confused:

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... Have you seen the SU fandom?

Unfortunately corporate would step in with anything like this and take their cut.

Would I if it could be assured they wouldn't? Yeah. I'm a software engineer. I understand the importance of feeling like what you coded matters and how morale is factor in being a good architect of code. I would be willing to give them that show of appreciation. Especially since I can only imagine the stress they're all under right now. It's not fun to have a bug at all and feels even worse if it makes it to the customer.

Nobody else has to agree or do the same. That's just my personal take. I would do it out of solidarity because I've been there.

@OP: at a personal level, i'd love to buy the writing team a beer (and might take the opportunity to mildly drown the people in charge of healers on the balance team).

but as part of some weird mogstation cash shop thing? hell no, that seems scammy as hell.

Wait for the fanfests and conventions coming back. For example this year the biggest gaming convention in germany will be back and Square Enix often celebrates fangatherings with them. You have the chance to meet community reps, Morbol, Yoshi-P or the main-translator.

Put on some cool cosplay on. Yoshi-P really likes this stuff. Or be creative with a little crotched minion. Even showing them your respect and this will be gift enough.

lmao no way they should buy us all a beer instead, im gonna be needing several if we're forced to hang out with the scions for another expac.

If the devs want to get paid what they are worth then they need to unionize. A difficult task to start from scratch but the only thing that will protect you in the long run.

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I'd buy them a Beer, but first they have to buy a NFT of it first, since they seem quite interested in that topic.

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Honestly, with the BS SE's CEO is spouting, it's only a matter of time before they are close to bankruptcy again. The sold legendary IPs (Deus Ex and Soul Reaver for instance), brought out garbage like Babylon's Fall and that Avengers game, FF XV was an absolute train wreck and XIV's cash shop is getting more intrusive and the game gets dumbed down more and more to broaden the audience.

I would as long as they bought me one as well,if not for me and all the others they would be making Tamaguchis

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Originally Posted by Varilyon

...Or be creative with a little crotched minion....

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Crocheted maybe? Because a little crotched minion would be the opposite of...

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

Honestly, with the BS SE's CEO is spouting, it's only a matter of time before they are close to bankruptcy again. The sold legendary IPs (Deus Ex and Soul Reaver for instance), brought out garbage like Babylon's Fall and that Avengers game, FF XV was an absolute train wreck and XIV's cash shop is getting more intrusive and the game gets dumbed down more and more to broaden the audience.

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If you think that is bad, just wait until we get NFT Treasure Maps and all Job identity removed to the point, that Story NPCs (the ones which we temporarily control) have a better kit than we do.