Regarding Non-participation/Taunting Behavior During PvP

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...4efa39f992435a

Remember guys, we are getting told we are naughty instead of hotfixes for all the gameplay problems. Better not anger the Yoshi-p or he will ban you.

Discuss.

We banned chat so people wouldn't be toxic. You guys still found ways to be toxic in a world full of ironic and witty lingo. We didn't see that coming, so please knock it off. Also we know there are hackers and cheaters destroying matches, please continue to play an uphill battle or we will ban you.

Nice Job!

I find it funny that this was considered a big enough issue to get a personal dev response, not the cheaters and win traders, though I imagine that might just be because most people aren't even aware of them...

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Originally Posted by Brixy

We banned chat so people wouldn't be toxic.

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The least they could do is let us talk to /ls or /fc while I am dead for 15 secs (timer plus respawn animation).

Lmao, this so sad and tone deaf.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I find it funny that this was considered a big enough issue to get a personal dev response, not the cheaters and win traders, though I imagine that might just be because most people aren't even aware of them...

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Most people that are just starting pvp now might not know. Hacking and win trading is what actually killed Feast, not poor game design.

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Originally Posted by TheTyrant

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...4efa39f992435a

Remember guys, we are getting told we are naughty instead of hotfixes for all the gameplay problems. Better not anger the Yoshi-p or he will ban you.

Discuss.

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The last line is at least promising.

"In any case, we will continue to make adjustments to PvP job balancing to bring even more exciting, passionate PvP content to you. Please continue to enjoy your matches while upholding the code of conduct."

Of course since there's 20 seasons of Feast that said otherwise, not going to hold my breath for the patch tonight.

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Originally Posted by Enjuden

The last line is at least promising.

"In any case, we will continue to make adjustments to PvP job balancing to bring even more exciting, passionate PvP content to you. Please continue to enjoy your matches while upholding the code of conduct."

Of course since there's 20 seasons of Feast that said otherwise, not going to hold my breath for the patch tonight.

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Yeah I saw that thrown in there and it didn't register because of how disingenuous it sounded.

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Originally Posted by Enjuden

The last line is at least promising.

"In any case, we will continue to make adjustments to PvP job balancing to bring even more exciting, passionate PvP content to you. Please continue to enjoy your matches while upholding the code of conduct."

Of course since there's 20 seasons of Feast that said otherwise, not going to hold my breath for the patch tonight.

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"continue". They have to start, first lol.

This is the first time I've been disappointed with Yoshidas response to something.

Yes the taunting/spamming/AFKing is annoying but it's a drop in the ocean compared to the win trading, scripting and hacking that's infesting ranked mode.

Not even dedicating a single sentence to the issue is disheartening to say the least.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

"continue". They have to start, first lol.

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https://i.imgflip.com/6duvyr.jpg

Use whatever tools that are available. I am not encouraging you to use it per say but it is pretty clear this is something SE does not care about.

I have quit ranked CC and will never touch it again. But, for those looking to seriously climb the ladder, at this point all competitive integrity is non-existent. If you have to question whether or not the match was legit or not then the system has failed.

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Originally Posted by Elikzords

Use whatever tools that are available. I am not encouraging you to use it per say but it is pretty clear this is something SE does not care about.

I have quit ranked CC and will never touch it again. But, for those looking to seriously climb the ladder, at this point all competitive integrity is non-existent. If you have to question whether or not the match was legit or not then the system has failed.

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Just got seemingly globaled by a ninja from 100-0. Sums up this trash.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Just got seemingly globaled by a ninja from 100-0. Sums up this trash.

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NIN can effectively kill someone if they catch them unawares in 5 GCDs if they don't guard or heal.

Assassinate > Mug > Bunshin > Three Mudra > Forked Raijin > Fuma Shuriken > Three Mudra > Fading Raijin > Hyosho Ranryu > Fuma Shuriken

Bunshin and Three Mudra are both OGCDs

If a NIN solos you faster than 5 GCDs they're using scripts.

Handle word, being solos.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

NIN can effectively kill someone if they catch them unawares in 5 GCDs if they don't guard or heal.

Assassinate > Mug > Bunshin > Three Mudra > Forked Raijin > Fuma Shuriken > Three Mudra > Fading Raijin > Hyosho Ranryu > Fuma Shuriken

Bunshin and Three Mudra are both OGCDs

If a NIN solos you faster than 5 GCDs they're using scripts.

Handle word, being solos.

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Didnt know that. I will watch out for it.

"And for all we know they are aware and working on balance changes, but nothing is so broken in pvp that the devs would be forced to take the game down. There are bugs and imbalances but again it's been 2 weeks and only an armchair dev would say that's plenty of time to QA and release a balance patch."

An excerpt from reddit...

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Originally Posted by TheTyrant

Didnt know that. I will watch out for it.

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Especially watch out for it if they have LB. If they drop you below 50% and force you to guard, they can still execute you with Seiton Tenchu.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

only an armchair dev would say that's plenty of time to QA and release a balance patch.

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Balance isn't exactly the problem, it is like purify, guard and tickrate.

What game are they playing? Because it's not Final Fantasy 14. Some dev got offended he was spammed nice job when he couldn't carry as a WHM or RDM?

The priorities are so out of wack. Lmao. WTF AM I READING.

I'm kind of curious to see what the patch will contain. Normally SE wouldn't touch balance midseason for the same reason they don't mess with it during the prog portion of a raid tier. But perhaps the response has been strong enough this time around they might make an exception..?

So, can we have chat back?

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Normally SE wouldn't touch balance midseason for the same reason they don't mess with it during the prog portion of a raid tier.

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In PvP games you sometimes have to do balance changes just to keep things alive not with the intent to get towards 'perfect balance'. If they dont balance change during the ranked season, pvp will literally be dead before the first season is even over. Then add on top of it that this is pretty much a new game mode altogether where we dont expect it to be perfect, despite our current concerns...

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

I'm kind of curious to see what the patch will contain. Normally SE wouldn't touch balance midseason for the same reason they don't mess with it during the prog portion of a raid tier. But perhaps the response has been strong enough this time around they might make an exception..?

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I don't expect balance changes, more bug fixes:

Cure 2 Exploit
Purify not applying CC immunity
Sound drop forcing a relog

Those I do expect to see addressed.

Have you seen the cheats people are using? Its so out of order and we getting told off for spaming quick chat.... As usual let the 3rd party people get away with anything they want. Games so full of cheating from market board, pve and pvp more than ever.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

I don't expect balance changes, more bug fixes:

Cure 2 Exploit
Purify not applying CC immunity
Sound drop forcing a relog

Those I do expect to see addressed.

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Yeah, that's what I'm expecting too. Just the amount of feedback and activity has me wondering if they'd make an exception, or if they'll stick to the same playbook as ever. I expect the latter, but I'm curious to see the patch notes just to see for sure.

Well at least "Realm Reborn Red" isn't banned. I will continue to pop the cork on anyone chasing me to my base and getting 1v1'ed.

Good Match!

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

...but I'm curious to see the patch notes just to see for sure.

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Me too, I hope there is meaningful fixes/changes.