Viera ears don't seem placed right

To be clear, this is not a complaint against FFXIV as such, because they're replicating a race design from a previous game, but it's something that mildly bothers me and I'm wondering if other people feel the same.

Viera ears seem oddly disconnected from being ears, if that makes sense. They seem too high up, or too forward on the head, or something. Maybe because they end up out of shot in a close-up of the character's face? Or they're just generally too far away from where ears should be.

It's a disconnect I've never felt with Miqo'te – on the contrary I've thought in the past that despite being positioned differently to human ears they still seem a natural part of the character's body.

It's not something I expect to be changed, but I just wanted to say it.

The Ivalice Viera ears seem better designed than their FFXIV counterparts. Or at least from what I can tell from this CGI image of Ivalice Viera, anyway.

https://imgs.search.brave.com/UR1Ri-...W/aWVyYTIuanBn

The ears don't sprout out from the top of the head compared to the way the FFXIV Viera ears seem to do and come out more from the sides of the head, making the ears look more natural on the Viera's head.

They also lack the floof around their ears, too. So their hair doesn't look strangely unkempt just around their ears for some reason.

If I had to make a suggestion to the Devs, it would be to redesign the Viera ears to be positioned like their Ivalice counterparts so hairstyle additions for the race would be far easier to do and look less awkward with certain hairstyles.

Yeah Viera ears definitely are way too high up and too far forward compared to where they reasonably would be, which is... roughly equivalent to where Miqo'te ears are! I don't expect that'll ever get fixed though, given the devs are clearly struggling...

The female Viera ears seem fine to me, the male Viera ears look like they're a bit too far back though.

Took a (very brief) shot at illustrating how I think their ears ought to be positioned: essentially where Miqo'te ears are, as mentioned. You're welcome to disagree, of course

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...879040/fdg.jpg

EDIT: Okay gave it another shot, with a modicum more effort this time. They've got hair and everything now!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...8633620/th.jpg

yeah, they look like antennas now.

I can’t unsee it!!! Noooo

Oh man I was doing fine before reading this post ;)

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...8633620/th.jpg

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Am I the only one seeing a new Donkey race here?

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Am I the only one seeing a new Donkey race here?

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Get out of my head. XD

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Am I the only one seeing a new Donkey race here?

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What can I say, it's a thin line, especially combined with a(n almost) regular human face.

On the other hand if they were donkey ears it could hint at Viera being distantly related to Miqo'te, who themselves have horse ears (for some goddamn reason)

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

What can I say, it's a thin line, especially combined with a(n almost) regular human face.

On the other hand if they were donkey ears it could hint at Viera being distantly related to Miqo'te, who themselves have horse ears (for some goddamn reason)

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Maybe are miqote's half horses? :D

Oh no... :eek:

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

Oh man I was doing fine before reading this post ;)

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Do not Picture Google "Viera Mouth Breather" if you want to be fine.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I prefer them where they are. I have two pet bunnies, and the current viera ear positioning is more similar to real rabbit ear positioning.

Viera ears in XIV aren't the same ears they had in XII
Something I've always disliked

If I could have an overhaul of ears, I'd have them all replaced by the Viera ears in XII
she even has spots. I just prefer Frans ears so much more
The ears in XIV look more like a hair that acts as a hat with ears while imo in XII their ears come off abit more natural to me.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...2/HgveevU.jpeg

https://64.media.tumblr.com/eced5df4...cdfceee4ad.jpg

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

Viera ears in XIV aren't the same ears they had in XII
Something I've always disliked

If I could have an overhaul of ears, I'd have them all replaced by the Viera ears in XII
she even has spots. I just prefer Frans ears so much more
The ears in XIV look more like a hair that acts as a hat with ears while imo in XII their ears come off abit more natural to me.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...2/HgveevU.jpeg

https://64.media.tumblr.com/eced5df4...cdfceee4ad.jpg

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I was so hopeful the males could have had Fran‘s ears at least. I don‘t really like any of the options at the moment. :(

This always bothered me since viera came out. The ear placement is right on top of the head instead of the side. :/
I feel like hat placement and hairs would be easier if the ears were more on the head and not right in the middle of everything. I can only assume the dev team did this to avoid them looking like miqtoe but with longer ears.

given the nearly constant complaints about viera and hrothgar from head to feet... you have to wonder if Yoshi P ever wishes he had never introduced them.

not saying anything is unfounded, but very few people seem happy with either for a variety of reasons

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

given the nearly constant complaints about viera and hrothgar from head to feet... you have to wonder if Yoshi P ever wishes he had never introduced them.

not saying anything is unfounded, but very few people seem happy with either for a variety of reasons

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His biggest mistake was releasing both races at the same time. He should have went the route of Au ra in only adding each race one at time between a few expansions.

If Yoshi-P should regret anything, it should be that decision.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

given the nearly constant complaints about viera and hrothgar from head to feet... you have to wonder if Yoshi P ever wishes he had never introduced them.

not saying anything is unfounded, but very few people seem happy with either for a variety of reasons

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I think the character creation system needs an upgrade nonetheless. Lets wait and see what the graphical update in 7.0 brings to the table. I hope they reconsider some popular complaints, for example Highlanders having no eyebrows… Also I hope Hrothgars don‘t have to wait until 7.0 to get their situation fixed.

There are just so many things people are wishing/complaining for. I hope to see them invest a higher budget and focus on the character creation system a bit.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

given the nearly constant complaints about viera and hrothgar from head to feet... you have to wonder if Yoshi P ever wishes he had never introduced them.

not saying anything is unfounded, but very few people seem happy with either for a variety of reasons

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I'm sure the profits upon their release, and later fantasia sales have more than made up for that feeling.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

His biggest mistake was releasing both races at the same time. He should have went the route of Au ra in only adding each race one at time between a few expansions.

If Yoshi-P should regret anything, it should be that decision.

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cant really disagree. Au ra seemed to be a much more considered implementation, whereas viera and hrothgar seemed to have caved to player wishes. but, time will tell where they go I imagine.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

cant really disagree. Au ra seemed to be a much more considered implementation, whereas viera and hrothgar seemed to have caved to player wishes. but, time will tell where they go I imagine.

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I'm not sure if they imagined the game was going to have a 10 year plan after ShB, so the implementation of the last race(s) to the game at that point, as limited, was probably a pretty good idea at the time. A beast race to round out the races, and fan favorite viera.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

cant really disagree. Au ra seemed to be a much more considered implementation, whereas viera and hrothgar seemed to have caved to player wishes. but, time will tell where they go I imagine.

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So true. I just hope when female Hrothgar are added, the devs can start focusing on the problems both the Viera and Hrothgar suffer from separately, while focusing on feedback for both races in a way that proves more beneficial in fixing existing issues instead of trying to quickly please us with poorly planned out fixes.

I always felt like they should be much further apart. It's uncanny.

i've played a viera for 2 and a half years, I think her ears are fine.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

given the nearly constant complaints about viera and hrothgar from head to feet... you have to wonder if Yoshi P ever wishes he had never introduced them.

not saying anything is unfounded, but very few people seem happy with either for a variety of reasons

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I am personally 100% sure that at least part of the reason why the 6.0 story is ultimately "don't blindly follow what you hear on Twitter/ social media" is because of the team hearing the social media fallout of Viera and Hrothgar.

I'd said it before, and I'll say it again ... they shoulda made a taller, long miqote eared race with 4 different bunny tails and called it something new. People like myself came here hounding them for Viera 10 years ago because "Pretty bunny women!". Most people woulda been happy with something that had full functioning head stuff and was rabbit like and pretty. They did this with Au Ra, they took a whole lotta crazy concepts that wouldn't work and trimmed it down to make the beloved race they proved to be. Au Ra are what you get when the devs work with in the confines of their game and try to make something cool, Viera and Hrothgar are what you get when they blindly try to appease fan demands for things that they know wont work with what they can do ingame.

As for the OP, I agree. Their ears seem more ornamental than anything, shoulda just made them have upscaled miqote ears imo.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

To be clear, this is not a complaint against FFXIV as such, because they're replicating a race design from a previous game, but it's something that mildly bothers me and I'm wondering if other people feel the same.

Viera ears seem oddly disconnected from being ears, if that makes sense. They seem too high up, or too forward on the head, or something. Maybe because they end up out of shot in a close-up of the character's face? Or they're just generally too far away from where ears should be.

It's a disconnect I've never felt with Miqo'te – on the contrary I've thought in the past that despite being positioned differently to human ears they still seem a natural part of the character's body.

It's not something I expect to be changed, but I just wanted to say it.

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Spotted the normie. Viera's are kemonomimi's for the uncultured that means "animal ear" Viera much like Miqo'te though Miqo'te are a bit divergent from the standard are bunny girls and cat girls. If you google a anime bunny girl, their rabbit ears are smack dab on top of their head excluding Mirko from My Hero Academia. FF14 is an anime inspired game made by Japanese. So of course the bunny girls are going to be bunny girls.

Really what they need to fix is Miqo'te ears and make them look like the loli Miqo'te ears where they're bigger and rounder
https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/...rous-tails.jpg if you google a cat girl you'll see the ears look like the ears on the loli Miqo'te's you see in the game.

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Originally Posted by KurohNeko

Really what they need to fix is Miqo'te ears and make them look like the loli Miqo'te ears where they're bigger and rounder

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I'm sure doing that would be a good excuse for them to stop doing headpieces for miqo'te too. I joke.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I'm sure doing that would be a good excuse for them to stop doing headpieces for miqo'te too. I joke.

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Hey I'll trade helms for bigger ears that have physics to them. But let them fix Viera and Roecat first.

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Originally Posted by KurohNeko

Hey I'll trade helms for bigger ears that have physics to them. But let them fix Viera and Roecat first.

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Now that's a rabbit hole I don't think we want to go down. :p

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Now that's a rabbit hole I don't think we want to go down. :p

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Gotta get it worked out before the dog girls show up and we complete the animal triangle https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...61/096/ac2.jpg

Every race with animal ears/horns except hrothgar's ears aren't actually attached to the head, they float a bit above it. That is probably why. The more you know.

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Originally Posted by KurohNeko

Gotta get it worked out before the dog girls show up and we complete the animal triangle https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...61/096/ac2.jpg

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Korone is best girl. :3

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Originally Posted by KurohNeko

Spotted the normie.

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I have three Miqo'te characters and a Viera. I have no issue with the placement of Miqo'te ears – as I said in my opening post, they still seem natural to me despite being placed differently to human ears. But Viera ears look wrong to me (and apparently to a lot of other people in this thread too). I said all this already.

Just because some anime characters place it one way doesn't mean it looks right for them either, and it certainly doesn't look right here. 2D can be more forgiving, if nothing else.

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I know I need to reply to other people here as well. I'll make a longer post later.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

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…My WoL’s spirit animal. He has no $h*ts to give.

And clearly knows where all the snacks are.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Am I the only one seeing a new Donkey race here?

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Lmfaoo XD
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