Housing Update is out. Nothing said about us getting our houses.

SQE are being very, very touchy about what they say.

The one thing everyone wants to know is: Are the people who were sole bidders, who got the 'number 0 won' bug, going to receive their house or not.

That is ALL people want to know.

You're not wrong, like I'm hoping the next update shows something in regards to what they plan to do. Like in all honesty this effects so many people because no matter what the update said a lot of people don't believe the people who won were really winners since a 0 was part of the roll somehow. Like I would like to hear something about being compensated regardless of being involved in it or not.

Earlier I saw a ton of PF listings from people who were being very vocal about their displeasure with this system. (That's putting it lightly).

Some people ive talked to were saying how this effected the psychologically because of past issues revolving around a house. Others have stated that this system is akin to gambling which after hearing their explanation I have to agree with the statement being fair.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

SQE are being very, very touchy about what they say.

The one thing everyone wants to know is: Are the people who were sole bidders, who got the 'number 0 won' bug, going to receive their house or not.

That is ALL people want to know.

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That's what I've been saying too, but I got met with "nah they said we'll get the houses that's the conclusion we can make out of it !"

"We will continue to carefully investigate and address the causes of these types of occurrences. We still have the lottery data, and it is possible for us to confirm the status of entry applications through our database server logs. These logs will be referenced to ensure that players who have accepted their gil refund from losing the lottery will not be negatively affected by the measures we will be taking afterwards. We apologize for the inconvenience caused by these issues, but please rest assured regarding this point."

I don't know about you, but this sounds to me like after an emergency maintenance, a client update and a measure implemented to ensure a player is billed correctly if they took their bid out, people who won the bid but 'lost' to the "0" bug including solo bidders will get their house.

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Originally Posted by Katori96

Some people ive talked to were saying how this effected the psychologically because of past issues revolving around a house. Others have stated that this system is akin to gambling which after hearing their explanation I have to agree with the statement being fair.

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All I'll say on the matter is that I've been dreaming of a nice large plot for my FC since housing was introduced and now I feel like I have less hope than ever before.

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Originally Posted by Isutowaru

I don't know about you, but this sounds to me like after an emergency maintenance, a client update and a measure implemented to ensure a player is billed correctly if they took their bid out, people who won the bid but 'lost' to the "0" bug including solo bidders will get their house.

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I mean that's one way to take it but until they officially say their plan of action no one can say anything for certain and based off a few responses from the devs regarding healers im not exactly on the optimistic side of things.

Altho absolutely correct about maintenance

Reading the post most lengthy made by Yoshi and team the answer seems to be yes. Though it appears we will be waiting for fixes to be deployed before houses are allocated to those effected. Yes, even if you claimed your gil the estate should still be awarded.

Assuming they are choosing to resolve both auto distribution to effected applicants and prevent issue from occurring again at same time. This is normal to combine projects like then push one big fix then split working hours across many small fixes.

Will need to write script to detect then auto flag accounts suffering from the entrant zero bug as to avoid having to manually set your ownership of the plot in the database. This is likely why we are still waiting and is actually understandable.

They said they have all of the data for who bid and who should have won, but not if we will be given the house or have to bid again when they fix it. Not once did the state do not worry you will get your houses due to this error, just many apologies for causing others grief. Many involved I play with have stopped playing until they know for certain that they will conclude this situation with a decent compensation. I know it is silly to some but it has impacted some I knows mood. I would be lying if I said this did not make me kind of depressed. I know it is just a game, and I can get over it and everything, but seeing people sad over this is just not cool. Some people use this game as an outlet for current living circumstances, disabilities that prevent outdoor activities, and social interaction.

I am worried because the uncertainty makes me think of the worst, and it is not yoshi-p making all of the decisions, but a heartless corporation out of touch with why their game is making money in the first place. Hopefully they see simply 'oh no our customers are kind of angry' and start to begin damage control and proper compensation. Not wait till next lotto even if you lost to 0 and were the only bid on the house because they 'can't just give houses to a character because of spaghetti code'. If we get a middle finger in the end it will be the poo poo icing on the cake of disappointment.

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Originally Posted by Isutowaru

"We will continue to carefully investigate and address the causes of these types of occurrences. We still have the lottery data, and it is possible for us to confirm the status of entry applications through our database server logs. These logs will be referenced to ensure that players who have accepted their gil refund from losing the lottery will not be negatively affected by the measures we will be taking afterwards. We apologize for the inconvenience caused by these issues, but please rest assured regarding this point."

I don't know about you, but this sounds to me like after an emergency maintenance, a client update and a measure implemented to ensure a player is billed correctly if they took their bid out, people who won the bid but 'lost' to the "0" bug including solo bidders will get their house.

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I am a zero 1 entry bidder and my excitement grows by the day. I know now that I will get the house I've dreamed of. Going to be in the workshop hammering out exteriors

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Originally Posted by sagacious

I am a zero 1 entry bidder and my excitement grows by the day. I know now that I will get the house I've dreamed of. Going to be in the workshop hammering out exteriors

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I sincerely hope for you that will happen, otherwise you are in for a very rude awakening, which is probably what will happen, that statement does not say that this will happen, you are assuming and making a conclusion out of it

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I sincerely hope for you that will happen, otherwise you are in for a very rude awakening, which is probably what will happen, that statement does not say that this will happen, you are assuming and making a conclusion out of it

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I mean, considering they say that a fix will be implemented later and that for now they need to figure out what's up, that's really all you're going to get I'm afraid.

Now whether or not we will have a house. Vague wording and all that, but it seems like we will?

But the general gist is "expect nothing for now, don't get your hopes up, stuff can change, but they're addressing it".

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Originally Posted by sagacious

I am a zero 1 entry bidder and my excitement grows by the day. I know now that I will get the house I've dreamed of. Going to be in the workshop hammering out exteriors

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Keep the excitement in caution, as easy it is for someone like me to take it that way (especially when my FC members were the only one to roll on a mansion!), we still do not know what the fix they'll be implementing is. Remain hopeful, but don't let excitement crush you.

I know it won't happen, but the sole bidders who got zeroed should keep their gil and get the plot anyway. Call it compensation for the aggravation.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

I know it won't happen, but the sole bidders who got zeroed should keep their gil and get the plot anyway. Call it compensation for the aggravation.

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As an alternative nice gesture, I'd be happy if they dropped the FC only ward restrictions. Materia really doesn't need them.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

As an alternative nice gesture, I'd be happy if they dropped the FC only ward restrictions. Materia really doesn't need them.

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Materia still has entire private wards with no applicants. We have so much space for new people it's insane. Could fit an entire FC into the private wards.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

As an alternative nice gesture, I'd be happy if they dropped the FC only ward restrictions. Materia really doesn't need them.

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what if they make more private wards but it's just small houses, no medium or large. afterall they know we aren't bourgeois.

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Originally Posted by AmpelioB

what if they make more private wards but it's just small houses, no medium or large. afterall they know we aren't bourgeois.

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Maybe, after we fill some of these up

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1000/7a8dd...65abdd-jpg.jpg

If people in NA are housing enthusiasts, more than raiders, it's actually a great time to get a house here, get in on the ground floor and take a large or medium in Mist, or Lavender Beds, or Shirogane, or Goblet (except Goblet 2, that's full), or Snowy Goblet.

Ping isn't bad, we did it the other way for a decade, and the people are really nice! You don't even have to bring your main over. Have all the decorating fun you desire on an alt.

Either make or alt and transfer your main if you are ready to commit. We have an unfortunate amount of people sitting on the fence about transferring, and seeing more people come would go a long way to alleviate the housing demand and supply on both sides. It would be nice to have some shorter queue times (not super bad, but not great either). But we do help each other out a lot with clearing content because we know we have to help each other to make up for our low population. Even at 4am AEST you can find people to help, just need to pay it forward and help out others. OCE is definitely growing, and we'd love to see more people join us.

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Originally Posted by Osteichthyes

Either make or alt and transfer your main if you are ready to commit. We have an unfortunate amount of people sitting on the fence about transferring, and seeing more people come would go a long way to alleviate the housing demand and supply on both sides. It would be nice to have some shorter queue times (not super bad, but not great either). But we do help each other out a lot with clearing content because we know we have to help each other to make up for our low population. Even at 4am AEST you can find people to help, just need to pay it forward and help out others. OCE is definitely growing, and we'd love to see more people join us.

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I'm definitely on the fence of transferring my main. I'm very passionate about housing, but I'm also pretty passionate about my friends, and they certainly wouldn't come with me.

I am sorry to break it to you but if you think that you will get your house after the occurence of this bug you are absolutely mistaken. There was also a problem once where people LOST their houses to a bug that said that they did not enter their house for 40 days even though they did. They did not get their houses back either. You will have to bid again and pray to RNG.

That said, i hope im wrong.

I mean, I'm guessing they're hedging their bets on wording because while it sounds like they're pretty sure they've got accurate logs, I imagine the last thing they want to do is say "people who were sole bidders on housing plots will get the house" and then discover there's some deeper layer of the bug where some houses were listed as sole bidders but actually had, say, two people bidding; the logs might be accurate and say there were two bids in such a case, but maybe both people who bid saw "1 bid" on the placard when they made their bids.

I mean, I kind of doubt that's actually a bug they're going to encounter, but were I in their shoes I'd still be awfully cautious about saying anything too definite until the investigation of What The Heck Went Wrong finishes. If they said "sole bidders will be awarded the house" and then came out and said "turns out some of you weren't sole bidders, so the drawing for those plots will be run again", people would be foaming at the mouth and setting things on fire. (More than they already are.)

What I suspect they will do is not allow new bids, restore bids for people who withdrew money, and then re-run the drawing for the broken plots; that's at least how I would handle it. That way, if someone was a sole bidder yes, they'd get the house... but if there was some secondary bug where it displayed "1 bid" on the placard when there were actually two bids, there'd still be a fair chance for either bidder to get the house. (And they wouldn't have to special-case anything, like handling sole bids differently or whatnot.)

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

SQE are being very, very touchy about what they say.

The one thing everyone wants to know is: Are the people who were sole bidders, who got the 'number 0 won' bug, going to receive their house or not.

That is ALL people want to know.

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Always expect the worst when it comes to MMORPGs