Everyone has every right to be upset about Housing today

Not having more wards in Goblet/Lavender Beds/Shirogane/Mist, and 24 wards in Empyreum but split from 1-18 as FC only and 19-24 as Personal only...

Not to mention, people getting Winning Number 0 as the lottery jackpot for the house...

I honestly think people who are in charge of housing development need to start thinking ahead and start making more wards way ahead because it's been whole expansion they didn't really add new wards just to prepare Ishgard housing.

Even after Ishgard housing, it's still not enough because there aren't enough diverse options for players to choose if they want to buy in Ishgard, and there are those who refuse to move to relocate to Ishgard.

The auto-demolish won't be happening soon due to the IRL crisis that some people are experiencing. It's a mess we are in.

We need more wards. at least up to 36 to 39. Please just, add more wards. This is painful.

Ya I think the best damage control to the currently raging inferno is to do ward increases, and not piddle 4 or 5, massive ward increases. The game makes alot of money, they need to be allowed to spend it. I couldnt give 2 rats behinds about helping fund new projects, I dont play single player games. Our money should go to our game.

You can't talk bad about it otherwise you are just being toxic. Expecting basic level functionality for the sub money you pay every month is too much. Enjoy what you have! The fact that I can pay the same amount of money as someone else but can LITERALLY never touch a huge feature of the game unless I win a dice roll is beyond dumb.
Square just let anyone buy a house, I know there are limited servers now but what about in the past before silicon and servers were reaching their limit? This whole thing from the moment they pulled the rug out from under private buyers with the bs 75/25 split to now is just super frustrating to watch. I want to like this feature but since it's inception I have seen almost nothing but bad decision after bad decision.

Least guys had houses to get those of us on the Materia DC couldn't even buy houses till 6.1 and then to make it worse they made every single one lottery from ward 1 to 24 and now this is the result so know I'm piss off and alot of others are too from my realm

They need to make private housing districts all small homes and increase the plot numbers just like any city would do. I've said it in multiple places but the results on the wards speak for themselves. FCs do not want small houses, they want mediums and larges. The only reason FCs got smalls is due to a lack of funds, and owning a house already gave them a fast track to upgrade to a bigger house if it opened up later.

Oh and yes I'm also angry about this because of the way they handled the lotto. They should have had a single point where you put in a lotto ticket for a house of a specific size. This eliminates the problem of having all the people put votes on the same two plots because they are the first plots in the district. Most people would be happy to have a house, period, even if it isn't the one by the market board.

I think they really think most servers have far more free companies than they really have. Many FC are dead or down to just one player. And others no longer exist. They made 18 wards for FC in every area. Not considering that they do not need that many FC houses.

Our FC entered a bid… we had nine members bid on one large plot in Ishtard…winning number 0. Everyone is pissed. Some took their money as a refund not understanding that the system is broken. So now what happens? Since our FC was literally the only one bidding on the plot do we get it by default or are we going to lose it when they “fix” the issue and one of the people who already took their refund wins so can’t claim.

Housing is totally screwed and it really doesn’t seem like anyone cares.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

They need to make private housing districts all small homes and increase the plot numbers just like any city would do. I've said it in multiple places but the results on the wards speak for themselves. FCs do not want small houses, they want mediums and larges. The only reason FCs got smalls is due to a lack of funds, and owning a house already gave them a fast track to upgrade to a bigger house if it opened up later.

Oh and yes I'm also angry about this because of the way they handled the lotto. They should have had a single point where you put in a lotto ticket for a house of a specific size. This eliminates the problem of having all the people put votes on the same two plots because they are the first plots in the district. Most people would be happy to have a house, period, even if it isn't the one by the market board.

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If i wanted a small I would literally buy an apartment and be happy.

They just need to cut their losses and make instanced and allow the player or FC expand from their with their own gil.

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Originally Posted by EthanXdeath

If i wanted a small I would literally buy an apartment and be happy.

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I mean they can still have mediums in a layout for single home purchasers. Apartments lack actual gameplay functionality that houses have such as gardening and also lack the ability to use outdoor decorations. My apartment is a derelict, useless room that exists in lavender beds that hasn't been altered or changed in years. Same with the FC rooms, unfortunately. If you think you'd be happy with an apartment, you'd be 100% wrong.

After almost nearing 10 years of this game and not including 1.0, you would think devs would at least understand how many times they've made mistakes and caused massive uproars about housing drama. But all they do is bandaiding over and over again. And this is finally hitting them real hard.

I think it's an issue of culture. SE might think that conformity is paramount and hence whatever is good for the JP servers is good for everyone. This does not take into account differences in server populations or differences in attitudes and interests of the people making up those different populations. This inability to adapt might eventually take its toll on SE. Maybe not now but over time the company might find itself suffering for it. In the end, those companies that can adapt are the companies that will survive.

As someone who has a small packed to the brim of things my wife and I have, I was looking forward to possibly getting a medium but we've seen how well all this went. I'm not even that mad, just frustrated. I'm mad for friends of mine who were excited that they and their 6 FC friends were the ONLY people to bid on SMALLS in Ishguard and then the draw was zero and no one got the plot. I feel horrid for them

I can only speak as someone who actually lost to a player and so did a friend of mine, both of us on a small/medium lot. I did notice too from our stats and what others were saying who didn't get the "0" bug was that the lottery favoured last entries as a whole. This is just based on the stats being shared from a small pool so I am not sure if anyone else can vouch since this is taking his FC and both our experiences with it.

tldr; Majority of the time, whoever put in their last entry on the last day got a higher chance at the lot than those who applied day one. I'd have to go back and double check this but probably more difficult now as some have been claimed.

It is frustrating to see that the system, which was supposed to be a little better, be slightly leaning more towards the later entries. I do hope for instance housing, but I hope this is something that will be considered for future consideration. Even just a few more wards open to private buyers or more houses.

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Originally Posted by Aldotsk

I honestly think people who are in charge of housing development need to start thinking ahead and start making more wards way ahead because it's been whole expansion they didn't really add new wards just to prepare Ishgard housing.

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The problem appears to be worse than this.

Basically, the devs chose the worst way to implement housing. Outright. It's exceptionally resource intensive, buggy, crashy, and has no scaling potential. Compare this to something like Wildstar where everyone can get a personal house, and you can start to understand that FFXIV's codebase basically cannot allow for the level of scaling FFXIV's servers actually needs. This isn't the only section of the game that has bad scaling, the inventory system is notorious for it. The glamour chest is one of the worst examples of its type in any game, especially games from around the same period.

Essentially, the problem is housing needs to be deleted outright and redone from scratch. And anything short of this solution is going to involve keeping the poor-scaling system we have right now. Considering it's been nearly a decade without wanting to fix this specific solution's myriad problems, it's not going to change at this point.

In fact, I'm reasonably certain it can't change at this point without upsetting every single person who already owns a house, and that's assuming the housing module is a straight up drop in system with the game having no dependencies on housing itself. I'd be all for it and I already own a house, just to future proof the game. But not many people are as open minded about it.

But without pressure to completely redo the system and make it better, nothing will be changed.

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Originally Posted by EthanXdeath

If i wanted a small I would literally buy an apartment and be happy.

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Equating an apartment to a small is so asinine literally not the same thing

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Originally Posted by Taranok

The problem appears to be worse than this.

Basically, the devs chose the worst way to implement housing. Outright. It's exceptionally resource intensive, buggy, crashy, and has no scaling potential. Compare this to something like Wildstar where everyone can get a personal house, and you can start to understand that FFXIV's codebase basically cannot allow for the level of scaling FFXIV's servers actually needs. This isn't the only section of the game that has bad scaling, the inventory system is notorious for it. The glamour chest is one of the worst examples of its type in any game, especially games from around the same period.

Essentially, the problem is housing needs to be deleted outright and redone from scratch. And anything short of this solution is going to involve keeping the poor-scaling system we have right now. Considering it's been nearly a decade without wanting to fix this specific solution's myriad problems, it's not going to change at this point.

In fact, I'm reasonably certain it can't change at this point without upsetting every single person who already owns a house, and that's assuming the housing module is a straight up drop in system with the game having no dependencies on housing itself. I'd be all for it and I already own a house, just to future proof the game. But not many people are as open minded about it.

But without pressure to completely redo the system and make it better, nothing will be changed.

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I'm not sure that any amount of pressure would have a positive effect. As I said in my previous post, I think this is a deeply ingrained cultural issue. The developers and company appear to believe in conformity and this means they will be stubbornly resistant to any kind of change. In a sense, this is a somewhat milder version of the debacle that was 1.0. Sooner or later, this company starts to fossilize in terms of its attitudes and it takes a disaster like 1.0 to shake things loose again.

I've been trying to get a med or large for years. Literally years, since Stormblood housing came out. Been playing since April 2015, have had a small since 2017 or 2018... and now SE decided to only allow 6 wards for personals so there's no chance in hell to get an upgrade on Balmung. And with pure rng and no pity system or anything there will still be people like me that can't get anything for years more
Like, how many thousands of dollars on game time and it's still impossible to get a larger plot to decorate? So now there are a bunch of empty plots in the FC wards, and people that want personal larger plots will have to compete with dozens or likely hundreds of other people for the few mediums that vacated.

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Originally Posted by Khaili

I've been trying to get a med or large for years. Literally years, since Stormblood housing came out. Been playing since April 2015, have had a small since 2017 or 2018... and now SE decided to only allow 6 wards for personals so there's no chance in hell to get an upgrade on Balmung. And with pure rng and no pity system or anything there will still be people like me that can't get anything for years more
Like, how many thousands of dollars on game time and it's still impossible to get a larger plot to decorate? So now there are a bunch of empty plots in the FC wards, and people that want personal larger plots will have to compete with dozens or likely hundreds of other people for the few mediums that vacated.

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I'm in a similar boat, but been around since 2.0 started with a minor break in like 3.1 - Had a small FC and secured a small personal in Shadowbringers. Was hoping to surprise my wife with a medium as she's mentioned we don't have room for the decorations she wanted to do and now, well, here we are